Thor vs Hulk (MCU)

@alphaaboveall said:

Thor wins this.

Hmm. Makes a strong point here.

Thor wins.

Hulk

This seems like a tough battle. I think we will get a better idea of who will win when Thor 3 comes out, hehe.

If they even fight, it will :

• Be upgraded hulk
• Or Thor without his hammer

Okay, hehe.

Thor can be underestimated at times, so I go with him.

Morals off? Hard to say, but didn't Hulk already destroyed Thor in physical terms at least? He was actually using him as a rag doll and had no problem taking Thor's attacks.

All this convo gets me hyped for Ragnarok

@doctordamn: I did read the OP though I didn't weigh in on the fight. I only corrected your comments. Because things like Hulk decisively winning or Thor being unable to best Loki while Hulk could are falsehoods.

Now moving onto the points brought up in your post.

Fighting Kurse who is pretty much MCU's Doomsday. Kurse would have broken the Hulk down in similar fashion.

Hulk isn't in Kurse's ballpark. We only need look at the common connection (fighting with Thor) to see that. Kurse swats away Mjolnir, Hulk ends up on his back after trying to catch a Mjolnir in flight. Kurse tanks a shot from a bloodlusted Thor throwing Mjolnir and Hulk takes a shot from it and is knocked into a plane and stunned for a few moments. Kurse is shown by feats to be a tier above Hulk.

As far as CIS It's not a factor. If Thor used those keepaway tactics often, but just didn't for this fight, it's CIS. Because Thor seldom (only doing it once in the four films he's been in) tries to avoid the fight and jumps right in, it's just how he fights. When taking on the Destroyer it seems he knew he couldn't play around, likely from knowing what it's capable of. He actually fought out of character for that fight, not the rest. Granted it was a smart play and something he should consider doing more in the future.

Thor used lightning in most of his fights - Against frost giants, against Iron Man , Leviathans, Malekith, Ultron etc.

@apex_pretador: I'm discussing more him using keepaway tactics like enveloping characters in tornadoes and the like.

"Because Thor seldom (only doing it once in the four films he's been in) tries to avoid the fight and jumps right in, it's just how he fights."

Edit: And that was in reply to drdamn's comment

"A CIS off Thor would have just stayed in the air spamming thunder and what not."

Oh

Thor and it's not really close. I don't get all the Hulk hype.

Hulk wins.

Thor lacks the physicals to compete. All he has are some ridiculous high end striking feats WITH Mjolnir and nothing much else.

Thor had trouble going toe to toe with Loki whilst Hulk Ragdolls him, Ultron was making a mockery of Thor while Hulk stomped Ultron, He struggled to compete with a slightly amped Iron Man when Tony had to build a special suit just to fight Hulk and he barely won.

And in their previous fight Hulk was clearly shown the superior with Thor getting one good hit in.

@doctordamn: Again, the one common aspect Hulk and Kurse have in common is Thor.

Hulk and Thor went toe to toe. Kurse beat Thor like he was a child.

Hulk tried to catch a thrown Mjolnir, didn't have any luck with stopping it's momentum or direction, and ended up on the ground. Kurse swatted it aside casually. (And I actually wonder if Kurse would have fallen had he tried to catch it. I don't see Kurse being able to hold onto it, but I do wonder if he would be able to stop the hammer's momentum. I also don't see Hulk batting it aside.)

Hulk took a Mjolnir shot and had to shake the cobwebs from his head. Kurse pretty much ignored it.

So yeah, based on showings, Kurse is a tier above Hulk.

It's character induced stupidity if it's something the character does often. Flash forgetting he can move lightspeed and moving slow enough to get hit is character induced stupidity. Thor isn't because it's in his nature to test himself in hand to hand combat. Is it stupid? You could argue that, but it's not CIS.

As far as it goes, Thor couldn't use his powers in the confines of the Helicarrier. He still didn't do badly. If he fought more as he did against Malekith, I could see him taking it.

At the end of the day I feel this fight could go either way.

This will be answered in Ragnarok

@black_panther18: Everything showing in the MCU points to Hulk stomping

Thor.

bump

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Physically yes, Thor is inferior but mjølnir its no contest. Also Hulk never fought ultron. He just threw him away whule he was nearly destroyed. Yes crushing his armor and taking ni damage while holding back is struggling. Again Thor never used his full power on Hulk.

Thor definitely

as of now thor.. hulk cant be compared to kurse. kurse ragdolled thor.. remeber that backhand swing of kurse? thor was sent flying far away and thor was portrayed in a daze, he was having a hard time standing up compared when he took a straight punch from hulk while he is holding back(yes , he was talking to the hulk) then smiled after that punch.

plot - hulk

feat wise - thor

A Hammerless Thor gets soundly beaten by Hulk.

However Thor WITH his hammer would definitely win.

wihtout morals? thor

Morals on, tied, as we already now.

Hulk

With hammer thor, without hammer hulk

Could go either way, honestly.

This battle likely ends in a Stalemate.

Hulk is above Thor in the MCU hierarchy in my opinion.

hulk

Thor stomps.

Durability-wise Hulk probably has a slight advantage, but Thor's striking power seems to be considerably greater. Thor can hurt Hulk a lot more than Hulk can hurt him, and that's without even considering his speed, fighting skill and flight advantages.

Bump seemed relevant

Hammerless Thor will fight a angry Hulk in Thor 3 and he's probably going to win.

Hulk

Feat wise Thor

I gotta say Hulk. Hulk was more of a threat to Ultron. Ultron basically stomped Thor. I hope Thor finally gets some awesome feats in Ragnarok. He's not nearly as fast as Hulk in combat as of AoU IMO.

Thor based on feats ( seriously,his lightning is by far the best thing we've got in Avengers, though just my opinion. )