Thor vs Flash (in the marvel universe)

This is a fight to the death in the Marvel Universe, Flash breaks the space time barrier in the D.C. universe and accidently opens a portal into the Marvel universe, Flash falls into the portal leading to the Marvel Universe and bumps into Thor. Thor mistakes him for a member of the brotherhood of Evil Mutants, and Flash thinks that Thor is a minion of Ares God of War, they start off in character but the fight escalates into a fight to the death, who wins? (remember this is in the Marvel universe, so flash has no access to the speeforce, although he is still faster than light on par with Marvels other speedsters, and Thor is his usual self until the fight escalates and enters warriors madness mode.)

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Does Flash have any of his hax? I don’t think he can win without having access to the speed force.

@kanyecosby: He doesn't have speed steal, and his manipulation over the speed force, and obviously he's not as fast as his fastest capability, but still light speed, which hax were you referring to exactly?

@pooty : @destinyman75: What do you guy's think of this topic?

Well....This isn't gonna end well.

How can he be faster than light without the Speed force?

That nerf tho

Nope.

@black3stpanth3r: The speed force allows him to do things like phasing, and the infinite mass punch which are the only things he has to hurt Thor with. Also, the speed force is the reason that he doesn’t get splattered whenever he runs into something at light speed. The moment he tries to run into Thor, he’s going to get every bone in his body broken.

Without Speed Force? What's the point of this Battle? The Speed Force is what powers him.

Thor fans are a delight to watch.

Hahahahah

Why is the SpeedForce or powers needed?

Regular humans run circles around Slowdison.

flash doesn't need the speed force to blitz Thor.

@watcher5000: Yes he does.

Nope.I could blitz Thor with a broken leg, a no speed force flash would absolutely blitz stomp.

@watcher5000: What? Stop WANKING Flash and lowballing Thor is a GOD Dude he has INFINITE Speed dude and mjolnir can Absorb Kinetic energy it can Speed Steal Flash mjolnir can also preform an Infinite Mass Punch Sorry Dude but Thor shitstomps.

When Buried Alien aka Barry Allen came to Marvel, he kept his speed.

But seriously, Flash loses without access to SpeedForce. He'll start off beating Thor's ass at super speed. Then when he's about to deliver the final blow, his speed will fail him. Thor will smile. Then proceed to beat the $hit outta Flash.

Lol! I was just kidding but did you just say Thor has INFINITE SPEED? Thor? The guy who not only is impressed by DD's speed but admits he is slower than Wolverine?

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I am speechless, just shocked that anyone would say something so ridiculous.

Thor easily.

@watcher5000: Classic Lowballing tatic do I need to show you Flash getting stabbed for whatever reason by DEATHSTROKE? Lowballs don't work Buddy sorry dude but Thor is a GOD we all know GODS can go as fast as they want therefor they have INFINITE speed I can show you a scan dude also mjolnir can do everything The Flash can do including Kinetic energy/Speed Steal Infinite Mass Punch Phasing tbh mjolnir can beat ANYONE if Thor ordered it to Sorry dude but Thor is a Omnipotent Infinite Speed Speed Stealing INFINITE strength GOD.

@watcher5000: But........... He DOES HAVE INFINITE SPEED dude plus He has the Good old Speed Steal aswell sorry but there is no way Flash takes this.

@watcher5000: Btw I'm trolling I'm just trying to make an example of the Thor fanboys.

Without speedforce the Flash is just a regular human.

And depending on which Flash we're talking about, he might still have access to the Speedforce(barry) by virtue of being the one generating it, iirc.

Thor back hands him like he did namor end of story then post it on the vine for giggles...

@that1dcfan: can't tell if you are a troll or you have brain damage

everything seems to be in order in this thread

The only thing this thread is missing, is somehow Storm showing up and Lightning zapping their brains followed by Batman outprepping them

@kanyecosby: It would be similar to the Marvel D.C. crossover where flash went up against quick silver. I don't know if you can recall that comic but that's how I picture Flash's power level in this scenario.

@p00ty: There were times when Flash has operated without the speed force in the comics, so I think this is a pretty fair scenario.

In this scenario Flash is still light speed, he is a little faster than Quick silver, I would say he is similar speed wise to Hermes.

Is the scenario supposed to be Flash in the Marvel Universe, or Flash without Speed Force? Cuz Barry went into the Marvel Universe as Buried Alien and kept his speed, but when Wally crossed over he did not. So if they're just in the Marvel Universe, Barry would beat Thor, but Thor would beat Wally, depending on which Flash Thor fought. If they have zero Speed Force connection, then the Flashes are just humans, and this thread kinda seems like spite.

@tomkatie: The Wally that crossed over and fought quick silver, in the marvel DC crossover.

@tomkatie: Even without the speed force Flash is still fast, in this case he is on par with other marvel speedsters like Hermes.

@monstrous93: Thor tagging a speedster Hermes.

@black3stpanth3r: How fast was he going?

@monstrous93: Hermes was going at light speed warp 8, according to the quantum equation.

@monstrous93: He was traveling 10 miles per pico-second to the Nth degree.

@black3stpanth3r: Can I see this being stated in the comic?