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#201 Posted by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Ragnarök said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"If you are suggest Thor can fight BA in a physical fight you are out of your mind

BA made Wonder Woman his bitch as well several times now

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Energy manipulation and transmutation aren't magical abilities.Heralds of Galactus,Chemistro,Ms.Marvel,Photon and Vulcan are not magic users.All of them can use at least one of those powers.
Thor doesn't not have to use magical energy.

BA making Wonder Woman anything means nothing.I never said Wonder Woman could beat him.My point was Wonder Woman shouldn't be able to cause him pain at all if anything of magical nature does nothing to him.
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WW was using physical force
It has the same effect but Thor powers are still magic based
That is the source of his power
Any offense he has is magic based


Even so its not like transmutation is gonna do anything to someone of BA level
Heck even Supes has resisted transmutation from sky father level beings

Look I know you like Thor but face it
He loses"
You don't get it do you.Energy manipulation has nothing to do with the means in which Thor is able to use that ability.Like his strength.Magic is what allows Thor to be super strong but his punches are not a magical based attack.If Thor absorbs thermal energy...he can with Mjolnir manipulate that energy and use it without any magical affect.The same with transmutation.It's not a magical attack.
Superman resisted reality manipulation too but technically he's not immune and has no resistance to it.Him pulling that off has nothing to do with his powers and isn't even logical.

It doesn't matter whether I like Thor or not..that isn't why I say he wins.
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#202 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

BA wins

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#203 Posted by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins.

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#204 Posted by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
Ragnarök said:
"Thor wins."

No..

BA outclasses him in every way and is immune to magic.

BA wins after a decent fight.
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#205 Posted by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"Ragnarök said:
"Thor wins."

No..

BA outclasses him in every way and is immune to magic.

BA wins after a decent fight."
Why do you keep making a case for magic when I just explained why it doesn't mean anything.
Thor wins.
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#206 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor powers are magic based

BA puts a beat down on Thor

Thor is boned

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#207 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

and ragnarok is a fanboy

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#208 Posted by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Thor powers are magic based

BA puts a beat down on Thor

Thor is boned"
Did you even read my post? This is getting ridiculous.Energy manipulation and transmutation are not magical powers.
HalJordan1986x said:
"and ragnarok is a fanboy"
Terrible defense.Common forum insults.
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#209 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
Ragnarök said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Thor powers are magic based

BA puts a beat down on Thor

Thor is boned"
Did you even read my post? This is getting ridiculous.Energy manipulation and transmutation are not magical powers.

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I explained this pages ago.
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#210 Posted by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't understand why people have to throw around insults when they just aren't right.

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#211 Posted by Qoheed (102 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam hands down, in my opinion.

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#212 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins this.

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#213 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
Qoheed said:
"Black Adam hands down,
Yup
He beats Thor to death
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#214 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Qoheed said:
"Black Adam hands down,
Yup
He beats Thor to death"
No he doesn't.Thor wins.
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#215 Posted by Logic Mark III (2132 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL all i see is BA fights Captain Marvel and Superman....SO DID THOR...and he beat Captain Marvel and gave Superman the fight of his life. HE IS IN THAT STRENGTH RANGE.

Nobody has shown anything convincing for Black Adams strength other than who he has fought. Fair dues then Thor has squared up to Galactus and the Celestials, he has squared up to infinity Gauntlet Thanos...does that mean he is every bit as powerful/intelligent/durable as them? No.

The scan with BA beating the JLA explains why he is kicking their arses. He means to kill and they only mean to incapacitate, plus the fact there were only about 3 people there in his strength range.

Magic may allow Thor to weild energies but the energy itself is not magical...like the cosmic storm scan all the magic did was allow him to control it the destructive force is still that of the cosmic storm. So if BA is hit with cosmic energies or all the powers of the storm it is a thing of science, being immune to magic wont help. Same with the infinity vortex thing. That bad science will hurt, it isnt magic based.

I dont really care if Captain Marvel cant do diddly to BA's magic. Its pretty much standard that Thor is one of, if not THE, thunderiest/lightningiest man there is. Its still viable.

Oh and since this is how things seem to work with some people NUFF SAID....yay Thor wins now...silly me providing scans when all i had to do was say that....Come on people show some scans. Show Black Adam lifting something Thor cant. Show Black Adam being faster than Thor, until you can you are just being silly and hoping, rather than proving BA wins.

Personally i think a physical fight would be very hard to call between the two BUT Thor has all the other crazy psuedo science magic powers that throw this in his favour for me.

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#216 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

BA  with ease

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#217 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins.

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#218 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
Fantasma Ghost said:
"Classic Thor is, outclassed in all terms. Is as simple as that, don't know why people, refuse to accept this."
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#219 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Thor wins."

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#220 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

"Fantasma Ghost said:
"Classic Thor is, outclassed in all terms. Is as simple as that, don't know why people, refuse to
yup
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#221 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
Logic Mark III said:
"LOL all i see is BA fights Captain Marvel and Superman....SO DID THOR...and he beat Captain Marvel and gave Superman the fight of his life. HE IS IN THAT STRENGTH RANGE.

Nobody has shown anything convincing for Black Adams strength other than who he has fought. Fair dues then Thor has squared up to Galactus and the Celestials, he has squared up to infinity Gauntlet Thanos...does that mean he is every bit as powerful/intelligent/durable as them? No.

The scan with BA beating the JLA explains why he is kicking their arses. He means to kill and they only mean to incapacitate, plus the fact there were only about 3 people there in his strength range.

Magic may allow Thor to weild energies but the energy itself is not magical...like the cosmic storm scan all the magic did was allow him to control it the destructive force is still that of the cosmic storm. So if BA is hit with cosmic energies or all the powers of the storm it is a thing of science, being immune to magic wont help. Same with the infinity vortex thing. That bad science will hurt, it isnt magic based.

I dont really care if Captain Marvel cant do diddly to BA's magic. Its pretty much standard that Thor is one of, if not THE, thunderiest/lightningiest man there is. Its still viable.

Oh and since this is how things seem to work with some people NUFF SAID....yay Thor wins now...silly me providing scans when all i had to do was say that....Come on people show some scans. Show Black Adam lifting something Thor cant. Show Black Adam being faster than Thor, until you can you are just being silly and hoping, rather than proving BA wins.

Personally i think a physical fight would be very hard to call between the two BUT Thor has all the other crazy psuedo science magic powers that throw this in his favour for me."
This is a better explanation...would be nice if someone read it and responded to it......
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#222 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page

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#223 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"
What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them.
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#224 Posted by The_Scourge (5341 posts) - - Show Bio
Is this current Thor? If it is, Thor ftw
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#225 Posted by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"
What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins.
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#226 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

Yup

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#227 Edited by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
Fresh Prince said:
"Is this current Thor? If it is, Thor ftw
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Yeah because he did so well against red hulk...current thor is not that badass.
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#228 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

and super skrull lol

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#229 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"Vance Astro said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"
What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins."
The whole point wasn't based on the crossover.
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#230 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

BA wins
There is nothing Thor can do

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#231 Posted by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"bloodmist said:
"Vance Astro said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"
What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins."
The whole point wasn't based on the crossover."

Doesn't really matter...if a person is going to use crossovers to make a point I can't trust their logic on anything else.
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#232 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"BA wins
There is nothing Thor can do"
There is plenty Thor can do.Ragnarok and I already explained.People are ignoring it to keep posting the same one word answers that prove nothing.
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#233 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"Vance Astro said:
"bloodmist said:
"Vance Astro said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"
What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins."
The whole point wasn't based on the crossover."

Doesn't really matter...if a person is going to use crossovers to make a point I can't trust their logic on anything else."
Yup
BA curbstomp

Most people here already acknowledge that
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#234 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins.

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#235 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"bloodmist said:
"Vance Astro said:
"bloodmist said:
"Vance Astro said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Using crossovers as evidence ...nice I stopped reading after the first page"
What you mean to say is you stopped reading after the first sentence.You spend alot of time dancing around posts instead of just responding to them."

Why the hell should he waste time reading any post where a person tries to make a point with crossovers?

BA wins."
The whole point wasn't based on the crossover."

Doesn't really matter...if a person is going to use crossovers to make a point I can't trust their logic on anything else."
Yup
BA curbstomp

Most people here already acknowledge that"
rip thor
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#236 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio

...............

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#237 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

Dont worry
Thor will be dead before he can feel anything

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#238 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm done here.

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#239 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

Glad you admitted BA wins
See that wasnt so bad

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#240 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Glad you admitted BA wins
See that wasnt so bad"
I didn't admit anything.I said i'm done.I'm not going to try and make a case with you..
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#241 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

See that wasnt so hard
Glad you admitted BA wins

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#242 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio

Trolling is not ok.

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#243 Posted by King Saturn (222965 posts) - - Show Bio
The Problem is... Thor has more Magical Power at his disposal in terms of Magic that borderlines Reality Warping... Odin Force or Thor Force. Black Adam has Magical Powers too... he just doesnt really use them... he is more of a brute...
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#244 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Trolling is not ok."
Then you better leave troll
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#245 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Trolling is not ok."
Then you better leave troll"
Log off.
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#246 Posted by King Saturn (222965 posts) - - Show Bio
...and herrrre we go
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#247 Posted by AtPhantom (14434 posts) - - Show Bio
Logic Mark III said:
"LOL all i see is BA fights Captain Marvel and Superman....SO DID THOR...and he beat Captain Marvel and gave Superman the fight of his life. HE IS IN THAT STRENGTH RANGE.

Nobody has shown anything convincing for Black Adams strength other than who he has fought. Fair dues then Thor has squared up to Galactus and the Celestials, he has squared up to infinity Gauntlet Thanos...does that mean he is every bit as powerful/intelligent/durable as them? No.

The scan with BA beating the JLA explains why he is kicking their arses. He means to kill and they only mean to incapacitate, plus the fact there were only about 3 people there in his strength range.

Magic may allow Thor to weild energies but the energy itself is not magical...like the cosmic storm scan all the magic did was allow him to control it the destructive force is still that of the cosmic storm. So if BA is hit with cosmic energies or all the powers of the storm it is a thing of science, being immune to magic wont help. Same with the infinity vortex thing. That bad science will hurt, it isnt magic based.

I dont really care if Captain Marvel cant do diddly to BA's magic. Its pretty much standard that Thor is one of, if not THE, thunderiest/lightningiest man there is. Its still viable.

Oh and since this is how things seem to work with some people NUFF SAID....yay Thor wins now...silly me providing scans when all i had to do was say that....Come on people show some scans. Show Black Adam lifting something Thor cant. Show Black Adam being faster than Thor, until you can you are just being silly and hoping, rather than proving BA wins.

Personally i think a physical fight would be very hard to call between the two BUT Thor has all the other crazy psuedo science magic powers that throw this in his favour for me."
You want to see proof of BA Lifting something Thor couldn't? Well I can't show you that, because Adam doesn't engage in such activities. He has no interest in moving asteroids or lifting magical snakes in order to save the world. We can only measure Black Adam in two ways: By being equal (or greater in my opinion) to CM and Superman, and through the people he's fought and killed.

If Thor has squared against Galactus and the Celestials, I can tell you Superman Has fought Imperiex, Anti-Monitor, And Parallax. As for BA beating JLA (though I presume you're talking about world war 3) I don't see how killing instinctint is going to be a problem for Adam here. And your assumption (assuming still we are talking about WW3) is wrong, There were at least eight people in his strength range in China: Power Girl, Martian Manhunter, Four Green Lanterns (seen casually taking out Kryptonians in new krypton, though I doubt any of them is as powerful as superman), Donna Troy and Firestorm, not to mention loads of others. Black Adam has also killed Amazo during infinite crisis.

I agree, being immune to magic doesn't mean being immune to physical damage, and his immunity is thrown around a lot on this site. The immunity simply means he would be harmed by a magical attack in relation to his physical durability, unlike Superman, whose durability and invulnerability used to be negated by magical attack (but not anymore). With that said, I don't think a lightning would actually do much to hurt BA. And even if it could, BA can still avoid it. even at his most coonservative speed, at mach 500, he is still more than twice faster than lightning, which is about 220,00 km/h. I don't know about Thor's pseudo science energies......

As for Thor depowering him, not gonna happen. I don't care how thundery he is, if Captain Marvel, the guy actually  who controls his power cannot depower him without serious magical backup, Thor sure as hell ain't doing it. he can only be striped of his power if the egyptian gods who provide his gifts agree on it. The only one I know capable of depowering him is the Spectre, though that isn't helping either of them.

Now I want to make this clear: I NEVER said Black Adam, curbstomp. whoever wins, this will be the fight of their lives, but I believe Black Adam has sufficient strength to overpower thor and win this.
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#248 Posted by King Saturn (222965 posts) - - Show Bio
Lovely Thread
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#249 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

BA curbstomp

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AtPhantom said:
"Logic Mark III said:
"LOL all i see is BA fights Captain Marvel and Superman....SO DID THOR...and he beat Captain Marvel and gave Superman the fight of his life. HE IS IN THAT STRENGTH RANGE.

Nobody has shown anything convincing for Black Adams strength other than who he has fought. Fair dues then Thor has squared up to Galactus and the Celestials, he has squared up to infinity Gauntlet Thanos...does that mean he is every bit as powerful/intelligent/durable as them? No.

The scan with BA beating the JLA explains why he is kicking their arses. He means to kill and they only mean to incapacitate, plus the fact there were only about 3 people there in his strength range.

Magic may allow Thor to weild energies but the energy itself is not magical...like the cosmic storm scan all the magic did was allow him to control it the destructive force is still that of the cosmic storm. So if BA is hit with cosmic energies or all the powers of the storm it is a thing of science, being immune to magic wont help. Same with the infinity vortex thing. That bad science will hurt, it isnt magic based.

I dont really care if Captain Marvel cant do diddly to BA's magic. Its pretty much standard that Thor is one of, if not THE, thunderiest/lightningiest man there is. Its still viable.

Oh and since this is how things seem to work with some people NUFF SAID....yay Thor wins now...silly me providing scans when all i had to do was say that....Come on people show some scans. Show Black Adam lifting something Thor cant. Show Black Adam being faster than Thor, until you can you are just being silly and hoping, rather than proving BA wins.

Personally i think a physical fight would be very hard to call between the two BUT Thor has all the other crazy psuedo science magic powers that throw this in his favour for me."
You want to see proof of BA Lifting something Thor couldn't? Well I can't show you that, because Adam doesn't engage in such activities. He has no interest in moving asteroids or lifting magical snakes in order to save the world. We can only measure Black Adam in two ways: By being equal (or greater in my opinion) to CM and Superman, and through the people he's fought and killed.

If Thor has squared against Galactus and the Celestials, I can tell you Superman Has fought Imperiex, Anti-Monitor, And Parallax. As for BA beating JLA (though I presume you're talking about world war 3) I don't see how killing instinctint is going to be a problem for Adam here. And your assumption (assuming still we are talking about WW3) is wrong, There were at least eight people in his strength range in China: Power Girl, Martian Manhunter, Four Green Lanterns (seen casually taking out Kryptonians in new krypton, though I doubt any of them is as powerful as superman), Donna Troy and Firestorm, not to mention loads of others. Black Adam has also killed Amazo during infinite crisis.

I agree, being immune to magic doesn't mean being immune to physical damage, and his immunity is thrown around a lot on this site. The immunity simply means he would be harmed by a magical attack in relation to his physical durability, unlike Superman, whose durability and invulnerability used to be negated by magical attack (but not anymore). With that said, I don't think a lightning would actually do much to hurt BA. And even if it could, BA can still avoid it. even at his most coonservative speed, at mach 500, he is still more than twice faster than lightning, which is about 220,00 km/h. I don't know about Thor's pseudo science energies......

As for Thor depowering him, not gonna happen. I don't care how thundery he is, if Captain Marvel, the guy actually  who controls his power cannot depower him without serious magical backup, Thor sure as hell ain't doing it. he can only be striped of his power if the egyptian gods who provide his gifts agree on it. The only one I know capable of depowering him is the Spectre, though that isn't helping either of them.

Now I want to make this clear: I NEVER said Black Adam, curbstomp. whoever wins, this will be the fight of their lives, but I believe Black Adam has sufficient strength to overpower thor and win this."