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#151 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio

are we talking abouy prime or BA?

last i checked BA doesnt really suffer much from PIS  what you see is what you get........... SS on the other hand taking everything he is into account and removing PIS would pawn BA

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#152 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

SS can beat BA
But SS isnt part of Marvel Earth anymore now is he

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#153 Posted by Static Shock (53021 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Just because he beat Captain Marvel doesn't mean he's stronger.That's weak proof."

Superman says that Black Adam hits harder than Captain Marvel. He's fought both of them.
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#154 Posted by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"are we talking abouy prime or BA?

last i checked BA doesnt really suffer much from PIS  what you see is what you get........... SS on the other hand taking everything he is into account and removing PIS would pawn BA"

Are we talking about SS or thor?

Because he is outclassed by adam in every way and his magic has no effect on him.
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#155 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

BA is stronger then both CM and Supes
And Thor magic wont do shit to him

Thor is screwed
No other way to put it :/

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#156 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"are we talking abouy prime or BA?

last i checked BA doesnt really suffer much from PIS  what you see is what you get...........  thor on the other hand taking everything he is into account and removing PIS would pawn BA"

Are we talking about SS or thor?

Because he is outclassed by adam in every way and his magic has no effect on him."
hammer is more then just magic also bad science
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#157 Posted by AtPhantom (14434 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"bloodmist said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"are we talking abouy prime or BA?

last i checked BA doesnt really suffer much from PIS  what you see is what you get...........  thor on the other hand taking everything he is into account and removing PIS would pawn BA"

Are we talking about SS or thor?

Because he is outclassed by adam in every way and his magic has no effect on him."
hammer is more then just magic also bad science"
lol.
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#158 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"bloodmist said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"are we talking abouy prime or BA?

last i checked BA doesnt really suffer much from PIS  what you see is what you get...........  thor on the other hand taking everything he is into account and removing PIS would pawn BA"

Are we talking about SS or thor?

Because he is outclassed by adam in every way and his magic has no effect on him."
hammer is more then just magic also bad science"
Your fanboyism sickens me
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#159 Posted by King Saturn (222965 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"bloodmist said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"are we talking abouy prime or BA?

last i checked BA doesnt really suffer much from PIS  what you see is what you get...........  thor on the other hand taking everything he is into account and removing PIS would pawn BA"

Are we talking about SS or thor?

Because he is outclassed by adam in every way and his magic has no effect on him."
hammer is more then just magic also bad science"
I remember a while back when Thor encountered Silver Surfer... the Surfer said something along the line of Thor's Hammer being a greater force than his Cosmic Power... or something along those lines...
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#160 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio

true

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#161 Posted by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"bloodmist said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"are we talking abouy prime or BA?

last i checked BA doesnt really suffer much from PIS  what you see is what you get...........  thor on the other hand taking everything he is into account and removing PIS would pawn BA"

Are we talking about SS or thor?

Because he is outclassed by adam in every way and his magic has no effect on him."
hammer is more then just magic also bad science"
I remember a while back when Thor encountered Silver Surfer... the Surfer said something along the line of Thor's Hammer being a greater force than his Cosmic Power... or something along those lines..."
Still magic despite what others may think..
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#162 Edited by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio

no it is not it controls cosmic lvl energy.   manipulation  a magic hammer is still a hammer when it hit you

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#163 Edited by Static Shock (53021 posts) - - Show Bio

LogicMark provided some solid points and evidence to back up Thor....

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#164 Posted by AtPhantom (14434 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"no it is not it controls cosmic lv; energt manipulation"
But it derives its power from magic and as such is magical. And I don't even think classic Thor could the surfer.
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#165 Posted by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"no it is not it controls cosmic lv; energt manipulation"

Ok...and its still magic...controling other energies doesn't change what it is. Even if it wasn't explain to me how this stops BA from punching his face in. He outclasses him in every possible way...
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#166 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

Its still magic which BA is invunerable to

Face it fanboy
Thor is screwed in this fight

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#167 Posted by King Saturn (222965 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"no it is not it controls cosmic lv; energt manipulation"
Its Mystical and Cosmic in nature actually... but you basically got the point


Static Shock said:
"LogicMark provided some solid points and evidence to back up Thor...."
Yes He Did...
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#168 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Nice Scan Show Logic Mark III. But lets not act like Black Adam doesnt have any feats to back his ability of Physical Strength and Prowess either... the dude did take on the core of the JLA during the World War 3 arc...

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Holy crap
Black Adam curbstomp

Thor doesnt have a snowmans chance in hell
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#169 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"some of it is magic and other it is not it is simple energy manipulation by different names thor explained it himself...

remember bad science always wins when magic fails


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#170 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

BA wins
Thor is screwed

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#171 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio

thor wins just explained his magic and cosmic energy and posted a scan of his science comprehension ability to effect things

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#172 Posted by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"thor wins just explained his magic and cosmic energy and posted a scan of his science comprehension ability to effect things"

Yeah it being more than magic doesn't equal a win by any means. See those scans of BA? Thor would die...
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#173 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

LordCosmic stop being a fanboy

At the end of the day Thors attacks are still magic which make them worthless against BA

Thor loses badly

The only thing Thor can do is beg BA not to kill him

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#174 Edited by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"LordCosmic stop being a fanboy

At the end of the day Thors attacks are still magic which make them worthless against BA

Thor loses badly

The only thing Thor can do is beg BA not to kill him"

Careful he reports you when you make him look stupid even though you can do it without trying.
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#175 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Just because he beat Captain Marvel doesn't mean he's stronger.That's weak proof."

Superman says that Black Adam hits harder than Captain Marvel. He's fought both of them."
Hitting harder..doesn't necessarily mean stronger.Thor claimed Wonder Man hits harder than he could with Mjolnir.You and I both know that's false.
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#176 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"you know you are done since they are looking at your post"
What?
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#177 Posted by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
LordCosmicKing said:
"you know you are done since they are looking at your post"

Why not stay on topic ehh?

I am thinking that thor can't take BA, and you have no proof he can. Thor can't fight all of the heroes BA was fighting in those scans...that only happens in your head.
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#178 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio

not you vance another person..

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#179 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"you know you are done since they are looking at your post"

Why not stay on topic ehh?

I am thinking that thor can't take BA, and you have no proof he can. Thor can't fight all of the heroes BA was fighting in those scans...that only happens in your head."
Honestly..Black Adam shouldn't be able to fight all of them by himself either.
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#180 Edited by bloodmist (1049 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"bloodmist said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"you know you are done since they are looking at your post"

Why not stay on topic ehh?

I am thinking that thor can't take BA, and you have no proof he can. Thor can't fight all of the heroes BA was fighting in those scans...that only happens in your head."
Honestly..Black Adam shouldn't be able to fight all of them by himself either."
Your right its always bad writing when your wrong.

He smacked around most of them before in Black Reign.
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#181 Posted by Static Shock (53021 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't Black Adam get a power upgrade for WWIII, from Isis?

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#182 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"Didn't Black Adam get a power upgrade for WWIII, from Isis?"
If not then it's a BS feat.
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#183 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"Vance Astro said:
"bloodmist said:
"LordCosmicKing said:
"you know you are done since they are looking at your post"

Why not stay on topic ehh?

I am thinking that thor can't take BA, and you have no proof he can. Thor can't fight all of the heroes BA was fighting in those scans...that only happens in your head."
Honestly..Black Adam shouldn't be able to fight all of them by himself either."
Your right its always bad writing when your wrong.

He smacked around most of them before in Black Reign."
No it's bad writing when a single characters beats the JLA and nobody tries to use anything tactics or any other power besides physical strength...yet there are people out there who don't have anywhere near Black Adam's strength...with or without an upgrade.
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#184 Posted by Static Shock (53021 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"If not then it's a BS feat."

I remember Human Juggernaut saying this. He actually read the comics. I just read the scans for the battles.
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#185 Edited by the human Juggernaut (7279 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"Vance Astro said:
"If not then it's a BS feat."

I remember Human Juggernaut saying this. He actually read the comics. I just read the scans for the battles."
he did get Isis's power.
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#186 Posted by vance_astro (90095 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Static Shock said:
"Vance Astro said:
"If not then it's a BS feat."

I remember Human Juggernaut saying this. He actually read the comics. I just read the scans for the battles."
he did get Isis's power."
Does he still have it?
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#187 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

BA is actually powerful enough to take on the JLA
He can beat Supes and Captain Marvel without too much difficulty

Thor loses this fight
Badly
Nuff said

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#188 Posted by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"BA is actually powerful enough to take on the JLA
He can beat Supes and Captain Marvel without too much difficulty

Thor loses this fight
Badly
Nuff said"
Actually without a strength upgrade..Black Adam should not be able to beat even Martian Manhunter,Wonder Woman,Powergirl,and John Stewart by himself.
Also Thor does not lose and even if he does it won't be badly.As far as I know Black Adam has no immunity or resistance to transmutation or energy manipulation.Thor should be able to take him down with either.


saying nuff said doesn't make you right or end the thread.
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#189 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
Ragnarök said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"BA is actually powerful enough to take on the JLA
He can beat Supes and Captain Marvel without too much difficulty

Thor loses this fight
Badly
Nuff said"
Actually without a strength upgrade..Black Adam should not be able to beat even Martian Manhunter,Wonder Woman,Powergirl,and John Stewart by himself.
Also Thor does not lose and even if he does it won't be badly.As far as I know Black Adam has no immunity or resistance to transmutation or energy manipulation.Thor should be able to take him down with either.


saying nuff said doesn't make you right or end the thread.
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Adam upgrade in WW3 was under his own power
He became so pissed off that his powers increased

Even before though he was able to fight against CM and Supes by himself
BA does have immunity to magic which is what Thors offense is based off of
And considering that he out classes Thor in every aspect physically

There is nothing Thor can do

BA wins this without too much trouble

Nuff SAID
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#190 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor loses
He loses badly
He has no means to defend himself

He is pretty much a helpless child and BA could kill him however he pleases

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#191 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

If he was fighting Supes then Thor would stand a chance but mainly because of his magic based abilities
Against someone whos supermans equal if not superior

and has no vunerablity to magic

Thor is pretty much screwed

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#192 Edited by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Thor loses
He loses badly
He has no means to defend himself

He is pretty much a helpless child and BA could kill him however he pleases"
That is not a valid response.There is no proof in this post just you saying what will oppose what I say.


HalJordan1986x said:
"If he was fighting Supes then Thor would stand a chance but mainly because of his magic based abilities
Against someone whos supermans equal if not superior

and has no vunerablity to magic

Thor is pretty much screwed"
Everything Thor does isn't magic based.I'm pretty sure I said that.If not..now you know.Thor also has the power to negate magical abilities but i'm sure you will assume that doesn't work on Black Adam for no reason.
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#193 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
Ragnarök said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Thor loses
He loses badly
He has no means to defend himself

He is pretty much a helpless child and BA could kill him however he pleases"
That is not a valid response.There is no proof in this post just you saying what will oppose what I say.
HalJordan1986x said:
"If he was fighting Supes then Thor would stand a chance but mainly because of his magic based abilities
Against someone whos supermans equal if not superior

and has no vunerablity to magic

Thor is pretty much screwed"
Everything Thor does isn't magic based.I'm pretty sure I said that.If not..now you know.
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All of his offensive abilities are magic based
He is physically strong and fast but a physical fight with BA would be complete suicide for Thor

Thor is pretty much boned no matter what he does
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#194 Posted by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Ragnarök said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Thor loses
He loses badly
He has no means to defend himself

He is pretty much a helpless child and BA could kill him however he pleases"
That is not a valid response.There is no proof in this post just you saying what will oppose what I say.
HalJordan1986x said:
"If he was fighting Supes then Thor would stand a chance but mainly because of his magic based abilities
Against someone whos supermans equal if not superior

and has no vunerablity to magic

Thor is pretty much screwed"
Everything Thor does isn't magic based.I'm pretty sure I said that.If not..now you know.
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All of his offensive abilities are magic based
He is physically strong and fast but a physical fight with BA would be complete suicide for Thor

Thor is pretty much boned no matter what he does"
If that were true than Wonder Woman couldn't do anything to Black Adam at all.Since she can that would make this false.
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#195 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

If you are suggest Thor can fight BA in a physical fight you are out of your mind

BA made Wonder Woman his bitch as well several times now

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#196 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

yup

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#197 Posted by Ragnarök (176 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"If you are suggest Thor can fight BA in a physical fight you are out of your mind

BA made Wonder Woman his bitch as well several times now

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Energy manipulation and transmutation aren't magical abilities.Heralds of Galactus,Chemistro,Ms.Marvel,Photon and Vulcan are not magic users.All of them can use at least one of those powers.
Thor doesn't not have to use magical energy.

BA making Wonder Woman anything means nothing.I never said Wonder Woman could beat him.My point was Wonder Woman shouldn't be able to cause him pain at all if anything of magical nature does nothing to him.
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#198 Edited by Static Shock (53021 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"he did get Isis's power."
But, not a strength increase? How was he able to stand up to all the those people?
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#199 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio
Ragnarök said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"If you are suggest Thor can fight BA in a physical fight you are out of your mind

BA made Wonder Woman his bitch as well several times now

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Energy manipulation and transmutation aren't magical abilities.Heralds of Galactus,Chemistro,Ms.Marvel,Photon and Vulcan are not magic users.All of them can use at least one of those powers.
Thor doesn't not have to use magical energy.

BA making Wonder Woman anything means nothing.I never said Wonder Woman could beat him.My point was Wonder Woman shouldn't be able to cause him pain at all if anything of magical nature does nothing to him.
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WW was using physical force
It has the same effect but Thor powers are still magic based
That is the source of his power
Any offense he has is magic based


Even so its not like transmutation is gonna do anything to someone of BA level
Heck even Supes has resisted transmutation from sky father level beings

Look I know you like Thor but face it
He loses
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#200 Posted by Kid Crow (281 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm a true Marvelite.  I love Thor.  But if Rulk can beat him like a rag doll then Black Adam can shit him out and flush him down the toilet.  I dont know why the Marvel editors made him so weak in comparison to old Thor but, hell, they did.

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