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#1 Posted by DeadpoolUchiha (267 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre Unworthy thor

Current versions for rest

bloodlusted morals off

who wins

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#2 Posted by Supermanthor (20384 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk or thor

and if void is available then sentry pretty much stomps

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#3 Edited by Unrequited1 (240 posts) - - Show Bio

Mighty Thor >= Beta Ray Bill >= Stable Yellow Sentry > Hyperion

Hulk's non-flying a** gets BFR'ed to geosynchronous orbit by one of these guys, since that's on. Thor would go get him later, once he's had some time to calm down lol. If BFR is off, then Hulk is a much bigger factor.

If DS Sentry is here, he probably stomps

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#4 Edited by Toratorn (7275 posts) - - Show Bio

You can put Hulk on one team and everyone else on the opposing one, and he would still stomp everyone.

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#5 Posted by Finbaru (59 posts) - - Show Bio

Mighty Thor >= Beta Ray Bill >= Stable Yellow Sentry > Hyperion

Hulk's non-flying a** gets BFR'ed to geosynchronous orbit by one of these guys, since that's on. Thor would go get him later, once he's had some time to calm down lol. If BFR is off, then Hulk is a much bigger factor.

If DS Sentry is here, he probably stomps

Nobody is BFRing him, this isn't team vs Hulk.

Anyway Hulk already one-shot Thor, everyone here is even weaker than that so they all get one-shot casually.

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#6 Posted by Sovngarde (536 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry>BRB>Thor>Hulk>Hyperion

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#7 Edited by Supermanthor (20384 posts) - - Show Bio

@finbaru: i dont consider bill to be weaker than thor

but yeah the point remains same

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#8 Edited by Finbaru (59 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry>BRB>Thor>Hulk>Hyperion

False. Immortal Hulk > Thor > BRB> Sentry > Hyperion.

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#9 Posted by Sovngarde (536 posts) - - Show Bio

@finbaru: Nothing here is true or false.

There are just different opinions.

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#10 Posted by Cognitive (1880 posts) - - Show Bio

If current Sentry is really Void and Sentry in one power-wise, then he should stomp.

Otherwise Hulk dominates. Btw, Hyperion does not belong here.

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#11 Posted by Finbaru (59 posts) - - Show Bio

@cognitive: Last time we saw Sentry he was back to his normal self, no longer merged with Void. As soon as his comic got cancelled, other writers forgot about the whole thing basically.

@sovngarde Ok your opinion is incorrect and you can explain to me why IH can't just replicate one-shotting Thor and everyone else here. Also Savage Hulk and Sentry fought just recently, very briefly but Sentry was getting pushed back by him, so i don't see how Immortal Hulk whose way above Savage Hulk doesn't just own here.

The only thing to make a difference is if Sentry was merged with Void, then he'd beat everyone else here.

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#12 Posted by blackpantherisb (7266 posts) - - Show Bio

Beta Ray Bill.

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#13 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Immortal Hulk or Thor.

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#14 Posted by AbigorGodofWar (274 posts) - - Show Bio

@finbaru: I'm confused on what era you've been reading. Sentry didn't get forgotten...

Current run of hulk is Immortal Hulk, not savage.

OT: hulk then sentry then thor then brbor hyperion, toss up between the last two imo.

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#15 Edited by Finbaru (59 posts) - - Show Bio

@abigorgodofwar said:

@finbaru: I'm confused on what era you've been reading. Sentry didn't get forgotten...

Current run of hulk is Immortal Hulk, not savage.

OT: hulk then sentry then thor then brbor hyperion, toss up between the last two imo.

I am talking about the LATEST appearance Sentry made, where he is no longer combined with Void like has been in his latest series that got canceled.

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Sentry made an appearance after this, where he was back to being regular Sentry.

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And he and Savage Hulk(not Immortal Hulk) fought very briefly.

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And we know it's not Immortal Hulk because of a couple of reasons, the night/day cycle doesn't trigger his transformation. And he talks like Savage Hulk.

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#18 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins.

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#19 Posted by Finbaru (59 posts) - - Show Bio
@helloman said:

Thor wins.

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#20 Posted by Unrequited1 (240 posts) - - Show Bio

@finbaru said:
@unrequited1 said:

Mighty Thor >= Beta Ray Bill >= Stable Yellow Sentry > Hyperion

Hulk's non-flying a** gets BFR'ed to geosynchronous orbit by one of these guys, since that's on. Thor would go get him later, once he's had some time to calm down lol. If BFR is off, then Hulk is a much bigger factor.

If DS Sentry is here, he probably stomps

Nobody is BFRing him, this isn't team vs Hulk.

Anyway Hulk already one-shot Thor, everyone here is even weaker than that so they all get one-shot casually.

BFR is on in this fight, and Hulk is the ONLY character here who can't fly or move in space. That's a serious disadvantage. Sentry, Thor and Bill all have the striking power and/or ability to BFR Hulk. Not exactly Thor and Bill's style, but it's still an option for them... Meanwhile, BFR isn't really an option for Hulk.

Never said this was a team fight.

And Hulk isn't one shotting anyone here.

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#21 Edited by Finbaru (59 posts) - - Show Bio

@unrequited1 said:
@finbaru said:
@unrequited1 said:

Mighty Thor >= Beta Ray Bill >= Stable Yellow Sentry > Hyperion

Hulk's non-flying a** gets BFR'ed to geosynchronous orbit by one of these guys, since that's on. Thor would go get him later, once he's had some time to calm down lol. If BFR is off, then Hulk is a much bigger factor.

If DS Sentry is here, he probably stomps

Nobody is BFRing him, this isn't team vs Hulk.

Anyway Hulk already one-shot Thor, everyone here is even weaker than that so they all get one-shot casually.

BFR is on in this fight, and Hulk is the ONLY character here who can't fly or move in space. That's a serious disadvantage. Sentry, Thor and Bill all have the striking power and/or ability to BFR Hulk. Not exactly Thor and Bill's style, but it's still an option for them... Meanwhile, BFR isn't really an option for Hulk.

Never said this was a team fight.

And Hulk isn't one shotting anyone here.

BFR being on does not mean Hulk automatically gets punched into space by someone here, the whole BFR thing happens extremely rarely in comics to begin with, it's not really in anyones character here to BFR someone. It's usually used as a last resort plot device. Hulk wont give them the time, nor does he need to BFR anyone here, we he can 1 hit KO them.

He already one-shot Thor, who is the most durable guy here, how isn't he one-shotting the rest? Even if he doesn't one-shot them, they all wont last more than 3 hits if he is serious.

None of them have the damage output to put him down.

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#22 Posted by DESPERO_Z_AMAZO (314 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor.

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#23 Posted by deactivated-5c6e6a1ed23a2 (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor, followed closely by Bill/Hulk. Hyperion in fodder I think. Unstable sentry isn't adding much.

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#24 Posted by deactivated-5c6e6a1ed23a2 (64 posts) - - Show Bio

@finbaru: Replying to the tooth knock scan you posted.

That isn't impressive or is either PIS.

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#25 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@xtrabs: Considering that punch took Thor out of the fight for the rest of the issue and was later revealed to have fractured his skull so badly he needed Asgardian magic to heal it, I would say that punch is definitely one of Hulk's most impressive striking feats.

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@unrequited1: @xtrabs: @unrequited1: did you guys know that hulk fractured Thor’s skull? And in that same issue he tossed ghost rider and ripped hulk buster easily.

Also a weaker version of hulk defeated warrior madness Thor. Yeah hulk is stronger than Thor. Beta ray bill stalemates hulk. Hyperion dies. Sentry is 2 much. He won’t stomp them, but he’ll manage to beat em. Here the power level of each.

Sentry/Void >> Hulk = Beta > Thor >> Hyperion

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#28 Posted by TheOriginalOne (4058 posts) - - Show Bio

@xtrabs: It is not PIS as IM is massively amped which Thor himself suggests.

So it makes sense why he was able to put down Thor in 1, if not a few, punches.

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#29 Posted by HellionVulcan (7270 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry should win as he's faster than everyone else in combat and no one has the means to put him down, Where are people getting this Sentry is back to being "regular Sentry" despite nothing being stated and savage Hulk was in Marvel Knights which doesn't take place years ago so how did anyone come to that conclusion.

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#30 Posted by Slobbyboboli (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel knights was immortal hulk and we already saw sentry in his non merged form take apart hulkbuster even easier than immortal hulk did.

As for the battle beta ray bill freaking destroys, hes a certified planet buster and has tanked energy empowered power cosmic punches from the silver surfer...

@xtrabs current thor is weaker than the unworthy thor who beat beta ray bill, reason being he no longer has lightning powers ever since he used all his lightning powers to bring jane foster back to life. It isnt pis, Thor is just much weaker than usual while hulk is much stronger than usual, just prior to that fight he absorbed gamma from two other hulks and absorbed the one below all demon into him.

Unstable sentry has gone blow for blow with world breaker hulk so i wouldn't say hes fodder

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#31 Posted by deactivated-5c6e6a1ed23a2 (64 posts) - - Show Bio

@theoriginalone: @lvenger:Yet i am questioning the very said feat. Thor has survived beating from pissed off Odin in Destroyer Armor.

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It didn't break even a single bone in his body. Destroyer is someone who could split Mjolnir in two. Yet he got his skull fractured with one hit from IM. So that hit must have packed some serious firepower behind it, right? But Captain America of all was able to not only block it, but he didn't even moved an inch, and survived. Neither the surrounding were blown/leveled, nor was Captain America or any other characters. A hit capable of fracturing Thor's skull, someone who regularly tanks and survives few attacks on >=herald level, could somehow not even make a single scratch/crack/dent on vibranium, and couldn't send Steve flying off miles away or turn him into paste.

It didn't even drew out much blood, considering a fracture must have severely messed up his internals and bleeding must have been visible.

If that hit seriously packed that much force behind it, there would be no way Steve could have survived, and/or shield surviving just fine.

So i won't call that his best striking feat. It's more like PIS to me.

@chosenone1222:

did you guys know that hulk fractured Thor’s skull?

Hulk fracturing Thor isn't impressive, or its either PIS. I refuse to believe a hit that can fracture Thor's skull won't even make a dent in vibranium. If that hit seriously had enough force behind it, at the very least, Cap should have been sent flying miles away, or the surrounding should have been levelled, or Cap should have turned into paste behind the shield. Thor's bones are strong enough to take hits from Destroyer. I refuse to believe hits harder than those can just be simply blocked by just a Supersoldier even if he happens to have a shield made of vibranium and walk off fine.

And current Thor is also a massive jobber/nerfed or whatever you say.

Also a weaker version of hulk defeated warrior madness Thor.

Yeah! Warrior's madness!

First thing, before Thor went to fight Hulk, he was depowered. He had lost his Asgardian strength, and was just running around with strength of someone(human) of his size. He was pretty pissed he couldn't do anything and was forced to sit back and watch. But suddenly, out of nowhere, a miracle happened.

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Now, the so called miracle was never explained in detail. We were later informed that he had somehow regained his strength. But we know one thing that the cause of her depowerment, Yggdrasil's corruption wasn't fixed or that his power wasn't regained through it. Time and time we've seen machinery failing to replicate god's strength. Ragnarok was prime example.

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The fight started. Then suddenly,

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A combination of Hulk's punch and arctic's cold was stated to as a devastating combination for Thor.

Thor has tanked far worse in Space, something even colder than the arctic, and never i remember it was specifically highlighted or stated to be something dangerous for Thor, let alone to be a devastating one. Fighting Surfer in the Matt Fraction's cosmic seed arc is one of prime examples that what Thor tanked above isn't something that concerns him.

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Now the fight continued, and we have our famous scan of Hulk tanking Thor's strongest lightning, which came out of (not) fact that Thor was willing to kill Hulk. Except, the famous i'll kill you thing hadn't happened yet.

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Only after hitting Hulk with the bolt, that went completely pissed(due to Hulk surviving), and said i'll kill you.

Hulk beat Thor afterwards, but some-why felt the need to throw Thor away in order to save him from the Bomb!!!

The WM also doesn't work anything like how it was portrayed here. It is a complete feral state where friend and foe is treated alike, with nothing but pure rage and bloodlust, and once someone enters it, there's no coming out of it until death. A much primitive form of WM made Thor so mad he couldn't snap out of until Odin entered his mind and snapped him out of it, killing the trigger. And as i said, it wasn't even original/real WM, but a much primitive form or a state similar to it. Thor survived the onslaught from Surfer, Adam, Bill, Moondragon and even Thanos but still it couldn't snap him out of it. He hadn't even had PG when Surfer and Bill went 2 vs 1 against him, but still couldn't calm him down.

So it was an incorrect portrayal of WM, which can't be equated as meaningful. And there are far too much inconsistencies with Thor's strength portrayal-

1. Was de-powered but somehow got unknown strength back through a miracle, never properly explained.

2. Was said to be devastated by Hulk's punch and cold combination, except it's something which never concerns him.

3. Didn't performed at level he used to when he had his power, after the aforementioned miracle.

4. Implied the inability to survive a bomb, which Hulk came out fine.

5. The so called WM(itself incorrect potrayal) went away, just like that after Thor was blown off, except WM doesn't disappears through any form of KO except death once fully entered.

6. Thor never went complete blood-lust until he hit Hulk with bolt, which itself isn't close to Thor's max output.

SO that instance couldn't be taken as Hulk beating a WM Thor, since it has so many inconsistencies and incorrect potrayals.

@slobbyboboli:

current thor is weaker than the unworthy thor who beat beta ray bill, reason being he no longer has lightning powers ever since he used all his lightning powers to bring jane foster back to life. It isnt pis, Thor is just much weaker than usual while hulk is much stronger than usual, just prior to that fight he absorbed gamma from two other hulks and absorbed the one below all demon into him.

Well, if you take current Thor as massively nerfed one, then it isn't PIS. Though on the other hand...

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#32 Edited by Yamiyodare (1435 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins.

Superman > Thor > Sentry

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#33 Posted by Supermanthor (20384 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk

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#34 Posted by ComicGirl21 (1161 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry > Thor > Hulk > BRB > Hyperion

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#35 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@xtrabs: It's important to note that Odin was only trying to subdue Thor, not seriously wound or kill him which the Destroyer is easily capable of when piloted by a spirit with less restraint than Odin. Immortal Hulk had no restraints at the time he fought the Avengers and wasn't pulling his punches due to the influence of Brian Banner/The One Below All so that's why his punch did more damage to Thor than the Destroyer's in this context.

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#36 Posted by WollfMyth209 (16819 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk > Beta Ray Bill > Thor > Hyperion.

Not quite sure where to put Sentry in this.

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#37 Posted by Mephist0 (22 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk > Beta Ray Bill > Thor > Hyperion.

Not quite sure where to put Sentry in this.

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#38 Posted by Azazel6 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

@mephist0 said:
@wollfmyth209 said:

Hulk > Beta Ray Bill > Thor > Hyperion.

Not quite sure where to put Sentry in this.

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#39 Posted by Cergic (1208 posts) - - Show Bio

@mephist0:

Considering how much whoopass Unworthy Thor handed out to BRB when he was enraged and BRB didn't expect ir, i'd say Thor at least is dead even with BRB. Thor is better in my book but i'd settle for even. No way that BRB is superior.