Rules
- Standard gear (Mjolnir for GOW Thor, Stormbreaker for MCU Thor)
- Random encounter.
- Strongest version of both fighters.
- In character and determined to win.
- victory by any means.
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@unlimited1: Doesn't the Thor from GoW have like no real feats...?
He has some feat from the lore: Mainly his fight with the world serpent and his status as the strongest Norse god barring Odin.
He has some feat from the lore: Mainly his fight with the world serpent and his status as the strongest Norse god barring Odin.
Not good enough. Wait until the next GoW when he gets legit feats.
As of now, MCU Thor takes it.
By lore GOW Thor does win, but having no on screen feats makes it tricky to gauge his overall power.
By statements GOW Thor can't break through ice, something that MCU could do since Thor 1
@darkpsychiclord_prime: Did you see what was required to break that ice?
@darkpsychiclord_prime: Thats like, not even remotely comparable to the rest of his statements. One is speculation or possibly a hyperbole. The other statements involve actual events and things that happend. I'm pretty sure shaking all the nine realms and splintering the world tree is far more impressive than breaking ice.
I know your just trying to make a point about statements, but its still a bad comparison.
@darkpsychiclord_prime: Thats like, not even remotely comparable to the rest of his statements. One is speculation or possibly a hyperbole. The other statements involve actual events and things that happend. I'm pretty sure shaking all the nine realms and splintering the world tree is far more impressive than breaking ice.
I know your just trying to make a point about statements, but its still a bad comparison.
As you guess it, my point is that you can't trust statements, wich could very well be hyperbole, until you see actual feats. The statement is that the Thor vs Jormungand fight could be felt acoss all nine realms, and Jormungand has grown far larger since then. Yet Baldur ko's it in only 3 punches, that only shake the serpent? Then Mimir states that he doesn't think Thor could break through that much ice? Until we get actual feats, concerning his durability, speed, actual damage output, etc, we can't say for sure who would win.
@darkpsychiclord_prime: Fair enough, though the World Serpent was not in any way injured after it woke up tbf.
If we use statements and lore, then GOW Thor is easily stronger simply based upon his fight with Thamur (knocking him down with a single blow so that he falls on his own chisel) and Jörmungandr (hitting him hard enough to send him back through time - seriously, what the hell?) and therefore he should take this handily. However, based on actual feats rather than statements we'll have to wait until the next one or the one after to see some actual feats. As of right now, MCU Thor wins.
Are people actually ignoring mythological feats for the mythological Thor?
Thor has a lot of feats in his myths, however none of them really compare to MCU Thor at the moment, especially since IW.
@conner_wolf: Are the GOW Norse gods given all the same mythological feats?
@conner_wolf: Are the GOW Norse gods given all the same mythological feats?
Why not? They're meant to be the same mythological characters
Because they have different origins, different backstories, and varying degrees of accuracy to the original myth.
Myth Loki was not someone named Atreus.
The Vanir beheaded Mimir and Odin was the one who kept him alive.
Loki should have had two brothers, etc.
To say that they're the same is fallacious. They're treated as any other modified adaptation of mythology.
We can't be sure but based on what we know about God of War Thor so far I'd wager he's stronger. It doesn't surprise me since myth Thor is stronger than Marvel comics Thor and these are just nerfed versions of both.
By statements GoW is more powerful but we don't know if those statements are true. They are just stories, and have probably been exaggerated as they are told over and over again. Also, most of the stories are just about his strength and striking power, so it may not even mean he is actually more powerful than MCU Thor, just physically stronger.
That said, just by seeing Baldur, I still think GoW Thor has a great chance. The healing factor gods in the GoW universe have is just insane, Baldur healed from heavy axe attacks that should be fatal immediately. They are almost at Wolverine levels of healing. GoW Thor is at least on the same strength level of MCU Thor, it really will come down to speed, how willing MCU Thor is to behead GoW Thor, and if GoW Thor can even fly.
Statement-wise, GoW Thor in a spite.
Feat-wise, IW Thor.
Based on statements alone, GoW Thor is way more powerful.
We should wait for some more feats though.
By lore GOW Thor does win, but having no on screen feats makes it tricky to gauge his overall power.
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By statements GOW Thor can't break through ice, something that MCU could do since Thor 1
exaggeration in Mimir's part, in the shrines it was stated that the Mjolnir could break ice just fine IIRC in the podcasts too but I don't remember clearly
Need to see GoW Thor in action. That said, I expect that he's probably going to beat Kratos and force him to unleash the full extent of his Godhood to best him in their second fight.
Honestly GoW Thor stomps
Interesting on the low threshold on lore feats. In MCU, the Aether survived the Big Bang and Thor blew it to itty bitty pieces.
As Thor is confirmed to be one of the villains in God of War Ragnarok, he will definitely have new feats fighting Kratos
MCU Thor attains victory for the same feat people have always hyped and backed GoW Thor.
When Thor unleashed Mjolnir's wrath and destroyed Bifrost, it caused waves through the MCU, culminating into the Infinity Saga. The damage was critical and functionally permanent. Ultimately, it took an Infinity Stone to restore the realm-spanning damage Thor had done to the Tree.
But what is Bifrost? The following model depicts it as a manifestation of the World Tree itself.
Thusly Thor's feat is of cosmic significance and operates on cosmic proportions. But if skeptics think the model isn't enough at face value, then it can be validated by observers in other realms being able to witness it.
The World Tree, known as Yggdrasil, is said and shown to be the WHOLE universe.
The Nine Realms are universes themselves, so the tree that holds them can be understood as a multiverse with its underlying dimensions/planes/realities. This definition allows inclusion of things like the microversal Quantum Realm, Dormammu's Dark Dimension (which has countless dimensions) alongside everything else in Dr Strange, etc. This also fits with the Convergence of said Realms being explicitly defined as the rotation of the universe.
Thor's mighty feat carved a catastrophic splinter into the Tree itself. This inversion of space, time, and reality created enough gravitational pressure to devour the very stars themselves, and per Odin All-Father, would have destroyed anything expeditiously with such extreme prejudice that the sheer force would scattered it across the universe.
Yet there ARE gods in creation that can cause and clash against such awesome power, and they are Odin's sons! Director Kenneth Branagh confirms that Thor vs Loki could have destroyed part if not all of the universe.
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