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Posted by Tjakrabirawa (2566 posts) 1 month, 22 days ago

Poll: Thor, Ironman and Hela vs Doomsday, Faora and Superman (55 votes)

Team 1 in an extreme diff fight 25%
Team 2 mid-high diff 13%
Thor solos post IW 5%
Superman solohouse 24%
Doomsday solos 29%
Hela solos 4%
Faora solos 0%
Ironman solos 0%

Battle location: Asgard, 100 meters away

No knowledge or prep

Win by any means except BFR

Morals are off/Bloodlusted

MCU Thor with Stormbreaker, Bleeding Nano Ironman and Hela with Mjolnir

MOS Faora, WODC JL Superman and DOJ Doomsday

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#1 Posted by macleen (2776 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman walks up to them and solos

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#2 Posted by DrPepperMan (5477 posts) - - Show Bio

Team MCU.

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#3 Posted by Emperorb777 (10498 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman casually solos

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#4 Posted by SonWuKong (100 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone on the DCEU team can solos.

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#5 Posted by Tjakrabirawa (2566 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: i can't see faora soloing.

Damn i forgot to equalize speed

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#6 Posted by SonWuKong (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@tjakrabirawa:

i can't see faora soloing.

I don't see why not, she's way faster and stronger than anyone on the MCU team.

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Damn i forgot to equalize speed

Indeed. Not really debatable without it.

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#7 Edited by KalKent (1273 posts) - - Show Bio

@drpepperman said:

Team MCU.

How? Iron Man is way out of his league here, and then thor and hela get the crap beaten out of them.

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#8 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (13302 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 got two people that can solo

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#9 Posted by xZone (6275 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: How though? Doomsday doesn’t have any piercing feats to suggest he could survive Stormbreaker, and Clark isn’t soloing hela and Thor. Faora and stark are basically non factors here

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#10 Edited by xZone (6275 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: Stark and Faora are basically non factors, I agree, but hela is very hard to put down, but a direct hit to doomsday’s chest from Stormbreaker should put him down.

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#11 Posted by Oreoghoul (1368 posts) - - Show Bio

DC

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#12 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (887 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: The most impressive thing she did in that gif is move a car. Thats like baby work for Thor.

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#13 Posted by RisingBean (9707 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor or Hela solo.

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#14 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (13302 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: Stormbreaker hasn’t gone up against a Kryptonian so it’s hard to determine, I have a hard time discussing anything regarding that weapon because it’s still brand new. The only thing that has shown to have any lasting effect on Doomsday is Kryptonite.

I don’t see why Superman couldn’t solo Hela and Thor, the speed gap is ridiculously huge and Hela, I think they’d have a hard time with that.

I agree with Iron Man being a non factor but Faora? She gave MOS Superman an ass whooping, MOS Superman would still give current Thor and Hela a tough fight imo.

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#15 Posted by xZone (6275 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: Doomsday’s best piercing feat is 30 mm rounds, and Stormbreaker pierced the outrider ships with ease.

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#16 Posted by SonWuKong (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: The most impressive thing she did in that gif is move a car. Thats like baby work for Thor.

No, that would be the most impressive physical feat yet seen for Thor. Or any of the three on team MCU for that matter. Faora far outclasses them.

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#17 Posted by KanyeCosby (6115 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman solohouse

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#18 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (887 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: Oh, apperantly stomping Hulk in hand to hand is less impressive than moving a car.

The more you know.

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#19 Posted by Amonfire1776 (2588 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Team has this...IW Iron Man>Faora, Hela>Doomsday, Thor>Superman...MCU team wins...

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#20 Posted by SonWuKong (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: Oh, apperantly stomping Hulk in hand to hand is less impressive than moving a car.

The more you know.

Stomping Superman in H2H is far more impressive. Faora could easily replicate that.

The more you know.

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#21 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (887 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by SonWuKong (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@theserbianempire: Didn't shift the goalpost, Faora has done something far more impressive and therefore could easily replicate that. She's stronger and faster.

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#23 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (887 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: "No, that would be the most impressive physical feat yet seen for Thor. Or any of the three on team MCU for that matter. Faora far outclasses them."

I thought moving a Car is more impressive than anything Thor has done?

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#24 Posted by MAZAHS117 (11444 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Doomsy the mvp

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#25 Posted by Kirkseven (1603 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see any nerfs to Supes speed here, so he wins

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#26 Posted by SonWuKong (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: "No, that would be the most impressive physical feat yet seen for Thor. Or any of the three on team MCU for that matter. Faora far outclasses them."

I thought moving a Car is more impressive than anything Thor has done?

Moving at that speed and punching a jet, not car, is more impressive. Thor doesn't have that combat speed and striking.

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#27 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (887 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: I find it funny your completely ignoring the fact you said moving a car is above Thor earlier. Goalpost shifting 101.

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#28 Posted by SonWuKong (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@theserbianempire: First, it wasn't car, it was a jet. So you were incorrect on what it was. And it is better than anything he's done.

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#29 Posted by deltahuman (4770 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can solo.

Doomsday definitely solos.

Faora can at least stomp Iron Man

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#30 Posted by xZone (6275 posts) - - Show Bio

@deltahuman: What piercing feats does doomsday have to suggest Stormbreaker (which pierced the outrider ships with ease) can’t pierce him? IIRC 30mm rounds is the best he tanked, so Stormbreaker should slice him up badly

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#31 Posted by xZone (6275 posts) - - Show Bio

@theserbianempire: It really isn’t worth your time. This is Manonthemountain’s 4th alt maybe?

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#32 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (887 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: It was a piece of the jet, so my point still stands.

You do realize that Thor busts tanks with the shockwaves of his blows?

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#33 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (887 posts) - - Show Bio
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#34 Posted by xZone (6275 posts) - - Show Bio

@theserbianempire: Yeah, it makes me laugh when he says Thor’s best feat is moving a car.. it’s just so ridiculous

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#35 Posted by wowmansocool (22 posts) - - Show Bio

Even if they found a way to hurt Superman or put him out the fight doomsday takes everything they got lol

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#36 Posted by SonWuKong (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@sonwukong: It was a piece of the jet, so my point still stands.

You do realize that Thor busts tanks with the shockwaves of his blows?

No, your point does not stand. It wasn't a car and Thor has shown nothing of the sort.

Maybe with Mjolnir, he's not punching harder than Faora. Doesn't have the striking strength.

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#37 Posted by xMangog__Beastx (3461 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor solostomps.

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#38 Posted by Crunch5481 (815 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone on the DCEU team can solos.

Faora is not soloing, while she may be faster than any individual person, as a team they'd overwhelm her.

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#40 Posted by Crunch5481 (815 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can solo.

Doomsday definitely solos.

Faora can at least stomp Iron Man

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#41 Posted by KalKent (1273 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: Except the 30 millimeter bullets did not pierce him, so we have to assume his piercing durability is higher than that.

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#42 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (13302 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: nothing but kryptonite done any lasting damage

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#43 Edited by deltahuman (4770 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone:

Stormbreaker's best piercing feat is cutting Thanos, not those ships. Bringing those ships into this discussion is pointless because you don't even know their piercing durability. They could probably be pierced with earth based technology like high calibre guns. Who knows.

Coming back to Doomsday, he has better piercing durability than Thanos by a long shot. No selling 30 mm bullets is just one side of the story. Doomsday is freaking Nuke Proof. Considering a nuke atomizes matter into plasma and Doomsday is resistant to it, you'd require something that could slash elemental bonds at a subatomic level (Sword of Athena) to cut Doomsday. Stormbreaker cut Thanos who also bled when Stark hit him with his combo attack by his swords. Stark's tech is made of titanium gold alloy.

Ergo cutting Thanos ≠ cutting Doomsday. Stormbreaker doesn't have feats to even scratch Doosmday right now. Doomsday is multiple tiers ahead of Thanos or any other being in the OP (except Superman) in durability.

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#44 Posted by christianrapper (5897 posts) - - Show Bio

@macleen said:

Superman walks up to them and solos

man, he is just going to walk up to them. man, that's bad as heck. i just imagined that happening. clark just strolling up whistling his theme from the reeves superman movies just dodging everyone's attacks and soloing everyone.

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#45 Posted by christianrapper (5897 posts) - - Show Bio

@tjakrabirawa: there is no point in making this thread if you take away characters' powers. just use different characters. their speed is a part of their power set. that's like taking away thor's hammer or hela's whatever she does.

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#46 Posted by xZone (6275 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: @ready_4_madness: @deltahuman: If you watch carefully the wakandan air force was firing at the outrider ships endlessly, and we know that their tech is>>>>our own, so by simple logic those ships are doing far more damage than 30mm rounds. We also know that wakandan hand held weapons can destroy a tank, so that’s another thing you can scale with.

To delta, no, piercing thanos is not the best feat (as of now) because thanos doesn’t have many piercing feats, but those ships have endured for more than 30mm rounds effortlessly. That nuke is not piercing per se, due to doomsday absorbing those with his power set just like he would absorb Thor’s lightning or Clark’s HV

To Kent, yes, that would make perfect sense, and thankfully, those ships are far more durable than that and could easily tank 30mm rounds.

To madness, yes, that is true, but here’s the other end of that equation (cause that’s kinda NLF) once he was stabbed, he died, and that’s something we know for a fact, so we don’t know if kryptonians actually need to be stabbed by kryptonite or if kryptonite seemed to be required ONLY because they couldn’t get through his skin in the first place. Point is, saying that even if Stormbreaker went through his chest it wouldn’t kill him is simply NLF. We know a stab to the chest killed doomsday, and I proved Stormbreaker can pierce him.

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#47 Edited by deltahuman (4770 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone:

What piercing durability feats do the ships have again, that are greater than enduring 30 mm rounds. In a debate, you don't just state things, you provide evidence too. I thought you knew that.

Also, Wakandan weapons are shit compared to our weapons. War machine, Falcon and Hulkbuster destroyed more Outriders than all Wakandan soldiers combined. Wakandan weapons couldn't scratch Thanos but Tony's Titanium Gold weapons made him bleed. Being able to destroy a tank with a spear is nothing. Tony can destroy a tank with a little missile hidden in his gauntlet.

I've discussed Wakanda in detail in other threads. MCU Wakanda is only hype and statements. By feats, they have nothing except that energy shield. Their army consists of primitive foot soldiers. No defensive or offensive strategy. No advanced automated weapons. Even North Korea or Pakistan would do better than Wakanda against the Outriders.

And Doomsday didn't absorb the nuke. That's ridiculous. A city sized nuclear fireball was visible to Batman from Metropolis. Doomsday's hide is nuke proof. You'd need something that can slash bonds at a subatomic level to cut Doomsday. As of now Stormbreaker doesn't have feats to even scratch Doomsday or Superman.

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#48 Posted by Helloman (23677 posts) - - Show Bio

Team DC wins.

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#49 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (13302 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: Doomsday was stabbed with a krytonite spear. “We need the spear Alfred, Kryptonite is the only thing that can kill it” if piercing his skin is the only requirement to kill Doomsday, Superman wouldn’t have gone through the trouble of killing him specifically with the Kryptonite spear. He could’ve just picked up Diana’s sword once she dropped ir and stab Doomsday.

The Kryptonite spear was literally weakening Clark by him being around it, so Thor may not kill him with Stormbreaker even if it Pierces Doomsday that’s if Superman don’t blitz him first.

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#50 Edited by xZone (6275 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: atm I’m not arguing the Mcu Team would win, but that doomsday can’t solo. Again, that’s NLF, and IIRC Batman said that long before Diana appeared, so even going past NLF it doesn’t make sense anymore given Batman’s knowledge at the time. As to why Clark didn’t use Diana’s sword who knows really. Imo that’s a great case of PIS, but I don’t know.

Again, what we know is that Stormbreaker can pierce things durable enough to tank things>>>30 mm rounds, and doomsday’s best piercing feat is 30 mm rounds, and we also know that when he was stabbed through the chest he died. To say he can only die to kryptonite is NLF