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#1 Edited by dodirty31 (1692 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor, Iceman, and Human Torch

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Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman

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Current/ Latest versions

Death/KO

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#2 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

Torch and thor aren't doing anything here. Only problem is how to deal with Bobby. Batman actually might have a role in this battle. Surprisingly.

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#3 Posted by juiceboks (24738 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: In a random encounter? You really think Batman would make a difference?

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#4 Posted by ComicsrulebutDBZdoes2 (7566 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: morals off on a random batman will be instantly dead he won't be a factor,same with johhny tbh beacuse both Wonder Woman or supes could speed blitz as his durability won't be good enough to take a speed blitz from either however Thor and bobby won't go down easy and new 52 supes and wonderwoman don't have the greatest durability compared to Thor and he could maybe one shot wonderwoman morals off, personally seeing team marvel win due to bobby benign a major player while Thor does his thing the speed can be negated by iceman, leaving supes or wonderwoman open from a god blast or a heavy strike, not to mention bobby maybe could install freeze all their blood killing them however not too sure It would work on them

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#5 Posted by agent41 (15248 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: superman and wonder woman use their super speed in character to fight,wonder woman uses even more often than superman,so the only different with no morals is that they will speed blitz at their top speed,and by looking at the pics,it seems the OP is using pre 52 versions.

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#6 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio
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#7 Posted by GhostRavage (14944 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually think Marvel might pull the win because of Bobby.

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#8 Posted by comic_book_fan (11207 posts) - - Show Bio

thor can beat wonder woman

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#9 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio
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#10 Edited by Iragexcudder (9464 posts) - - Show Bio

no one can put iceman down

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#11 Edited by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio
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#12 Posted by XImpossibruX (5752 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wisps Batman to the batcave in 0.1 seconds to formulate a plan to put down Iceman.

He flies back to Iceman and Human Torch who go up against Superman, though he can pretty much resist each end of the temperature spectrum. Superan easily kills Human Torch.

Wonder Woman and Superman blitz Thor while Iceman tries to play catch up, then Batman comes in with "Batpowers" and ends Bobby.

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#13 Posted by New_World_Order (14895 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Marvel.

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#14 Edited by dodirty31 (1692 posts) - - Show Bio

@ximpossibrux: You do realize that while Superman and Bats are gone that 3v1 WW and she would be put down by the time Batman formulated a plan to put on Iceman right... Then its 3v1 Supes in the air, then 3v1 Batman one the ground. You just took all advantage away from the DC Trinity.

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#15 Posted by comic_book_fan (11207 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Posted by Eisenfauste (17366 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel.

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#17 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Posted by Thitiki (4504 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol why is Batman here? Bobby should freeze WW and Supes ftw.

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#19 Edited by homicidalmaniac (10894 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor</>Superman

Iceman>Wonder Woman

Human Torch>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Batman

Team 1 wins

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#20 Edited by comic_book_fan (11207 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: he is stronger more durable and has way more options to win here only real advantage is speed and thats not going to be enough.

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#21 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@comic_book_fan: and how does his strength or durability help him hit her when he doesn't have the speed to beat her?

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#22 Posted by dodirty31 (1692 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: The same way anyone else hits her that doesn't go as fast as she does as shown in almost every WW comic whether she wins or loses....

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#23 Posted by GhostRavage (14944 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: It's irrelevant to argue about Thor and Wonder Woman. The real game changer here is Bobby and Team DC doesn't really have a way to deal with him.

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#24 Posted by Cream_God (15519 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1, Thor and Bobbys powers work together perfectly

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#25 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@dodirty: so basically by her holding back or PIS, yea you might wanna read the rules. They're fighting to the best of their abilities while being in character unless stated otherwise and PIS isn't allowed for battles.

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#26 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by dodirty31 (1692 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: Hmm maybe you should read the rules it says No morals not, No PIS and what you are saying negates all feats. Including her speed being above light due to PIS. As her original speed was near light speed any feats after would become irrelevant. Obviously she can be hit.

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#28 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@dodirty: i didnt understand a word you said.

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#29 Posted by dodirty31 (1692 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: I'm saying if you are chopping her being hit up to PIS, then all feats are also considered PIS including her being faster then the speed of light as she was originally as fast as a speeding bullet. and that leads way to all feats after the creation of a character being considered PIS.

So all I am saying is her being hit is NOT PIS but lapses in possible concentration. That's all I am saying. That she CAN be hit. Not saying Thor could beat her but he can hit her.

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#30 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@dodirty: I never said her.bwing hit was PIS. I said her bwing.hit.by slower people than her was her not going all out or PIS. It's hard to throw blanket statements. If you want a direct answer to a specific moment, I'm open to answering just be specific about which moment you wanna talk about.

Additionally, you seem to be all over the place with which version of Diana this is. By your op I thought it was new 52. You sound like you're talking about classic version sooo

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#31 Edited by TheMagicStik (2552 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: It's irrelevant to argue about Thor and Wonder Woman. The real game changer here is Bobby and Team DC doesn't really have a way to deal with him.

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I'm not saying who wins but I think this would be a viable way to stop Bobby.

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#32 Posted by dodirty31 (1692 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: Well she has been hit by pretty much all members of JLA from Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, to Batman. They are not all faster than Thor. Thor has many speed feats that shouldn't be over shadowed also.

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#33 Posted by ZhuRong (6728 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

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#34 Edited by GhostRavage (14944 posts) - - Show Bio

@themagicstik: He's not compromising a planet to stop one person in a random encounter, let alone killing Batman -.-.

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#35 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@dodirty: again, tell me a specific moment and we can talk about it. In general she's faster than thor. Much faster in fact.

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@demonknights: So she "can" be hit by those slower.

Also Mera has hit her but I couldn't find scans due to a bunch of "Adult" stuff I got tired of sorting through.

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#37 Posted by dodirty31 (1692 posts) - - Show Bio

But as this is a team battle anyone can get hit by any direction and everyone is a threat to anyone.

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#38 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@dodirty: Lol are you being serious with those scans or no? I can't tell if you're serious. Lol

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#39 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: dude, do all you ever do is argue that WW would beat thor? Gosh man, no one can prove it either way. Just let people have their own opinions. Its not like it's a stomp, there is no clear winner.

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#40 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@matthewparker: that's what this forum is about dude. Debating. If you disagree though, I'm open to debate you too.

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@demonknights: So she "can" be hit by those slower.

Also Mera has hit her but I couldn't find scans due to a bunch of "Adult" stuff I got tired of sorting through.

aquaman has super speed,and peak humans tagging her is bad writting,not to mention that with the things she can take with her durability,a human would break the bones hitting her,for the few occasions you can name where they tagged her,she has literally more than 2.000 superspeed feats that debunk those few occasions.some examples.

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#42 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: I understand that, but all your doing is beating a dead horse...did I use that right? Lol. I do think Thor would win, but I can't really say for sure since I'm not up to date on either of them.

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#44 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@matthewparker: most of these threads arguments are the same way. Almost every character has face each other on this site. I don't see why you have a problem with it.

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#45 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: it just seems to me your waiting your time arguing the same points, you could just basically copy and paste your argument, lol. But carry on I guess

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#46 Edited by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@matthewparker: good idea. If I'm wasting my time using the same facts though all that does is reflect poorly on the people I debate against, not on me. The key to defeating ignorance is teaching. Ignorance should be eradicated.

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#47 Posted by DemonKnights (5527 posts) - - Show Bio

@matthewparker: I mean, just look up at the scan bomb. Thors not besting Diana.

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#48 Posted by christianrapper (6036 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: It's irrelevant to argue about Thor and Wonder Woman. The real game changer here is Bobby and Team DC doesn't really have a way to deal with him.

shouldn't heat vision wor the problem is that he really can't hurt clark. batman either gets roasted, frozen, or hit in the head with a hammer in seconds. it's really 3 on 2. i don't see anyone dealing with superman's speed and strength since he is blood lusted.

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#49 Posted by ComicsrulebutDBZdoes2 (7566 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: OP didn't have pics when I posted that

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#50 Posted by ComicsrulebutDBZdoes2 (7566 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: your highly dismissive of anything Thor has done, he's fought people WAY faster than WW in surfer,and his durability isn't an issue? He has higher durability than both supes and WW and morals off he won't go down permanatley from anything below a planetary attack which I find hard to see wonderwoman doig that amount of damage in a speed blitz and like I said what's stopping bobby equalizing speed to an degree or completely by going absoulate zero, Thor has the damage output to one shot Wonder Woman while morals off nuff said