Thor and Superman vs Wonder Woman and Black Adam

No prep, all bloodlusted, fight takes place on an empty Earth 10 feet apart. No bfr. All versions besides Thor are pre 52

Classic Thor possesses the Odin Force

Classic Thor and Black Adam possess reactionary(NOT TRAVEL) speed of Barry Allen

Thor

and

Superman

vs

Wonder Woman

and

Black Adam

Team 1.

Team 1. Without the reaction time, team 2.

@AweSam said:

Team 1. Without the reaction time, team 2.

That's why I give speed force powers. Because without it, he's the weak link. Don't you agree?

@majestic99 said:

@AweSam said:

Team 1. Without the reaction time, team 2.

That's why I give speed force powers. Because without it, he's the weak link. Don't you agree?

Nope, Superman is. With the speed force, Thor's pretty much unbeatable.

@AweSam said:

@majestic99 said:

@AweSam said:

Team 1. Without the reaction time, team 2.

That's why I give speed force powers. Because without it, he's the weak link. Don't you agree?

Nope, Superman is. With the speed force, Thor's pretty much unbeatable.

He's saying Thor without the Speed Force is the weak link, not Thor with the Speed Force.

Thor>Wonder Woman
Superman>Black Adam

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman
Superman>Black Adam

So you believe Team 1 stomps?

@blackadamFTW said:

Nope, Superman is. With the speed force, Thor's pretty much unbeatable.

He's saying Thor without the Speed Force is the weak link, not Thor with the Speed Force.

Exactly.

@majestic99 said:

@majestic99 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman
Superman>Black Adam

So you believe Team 1 stomps?

@blackadamFTW said:

Nope, Superman is. With the speed force, Thor's pretty much unbeatable.

He's saying Thor without the Speed Force is the weak link, not Thor with the Speed Force.

Exactly.

Not a stomp and no Thor is not weakest link.

@jeanroygrant:

Even with the reactionary speed of Barry Allen?

@majestic99 said:

@jeanroygrant:

Even with the reactionary speed of Barry Allen?

Yup.

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

@a88378438 said:

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

It's really not fair to give one character a reactionary speed of a flash and not to the other. Give it to black adam also then :).

@bluepride1234 said:

It's really not fair to give one character a reactionary speed of a flash and not to the other. Give it to black adam also then :).

Changed it.

m99

Team 1 wins. Team 2 doesn't have an answer for the Odin Force.

@0n1zuka said:

Team 1 wins. Team 2 doesn't have an answer for the Odin Force.

Explain.

@majestic99 said:

@0n1zuka said:

Team 1 wins. Team 2 doesn't have an answer for the Odin Force.

Explain.

I believe because Odin Force puts Thor in Skyfather Level i don't Think neither WW nor Adam, despite being powered by gods, are Skyfather level, though skyfather is a Marvel Universe term.

What is the point of giving Thor the Odin Force?

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman
Superman>Black Adam

NO NO NO.

Wonder woman got Thor... This what i keep noticing with Thor over the Years against fast strong enemies who uses their speed and combat will defeat Thor

As for Black Adam and Supes IT could be go on for while but Supes i agree he does have the Edge

@majestic99:

Silverlord90 and Deranged Midget said what I would have. OF Thor is too powerful for WW/BA to handle, adding Barry's reaction speed is just icing on the cake.

Team 1 wins.

Thor and Superman win. Good fight, though.

Odin Force Thor solos?

Without the OF and speed boost, I think team two wins the majority.

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman

HAHAHAHA! NO!

@TDK_1997 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman

HAHAHAHA! NO!

With speed force and odin force, YES!!!!!

@fangirl101 said:

What is the point of giving Thor the Odin Force?

To make it more fair so he doesn't lose against powerhouses like Superman?

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

How? Neither make him faster. The former makes him a galaxy buster and the latter means he can't be speedblitzed.

@majestic99 said:

@TDK_1997 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman

HAHAHAHA! NO!

With speed force and odin force, YES!!!!!

With Speed Force and Odin Force yes but without them...He will lose to WW.

@majestic99 said:

How? Neither make him faster. The former makes him a galaxy buster and the latter means he can't be speedblitzed.

Having Barry Allen's reaction speed, which is greater than any of the other character's, will allow him to avoid being speed-blitzed and then proceed to murder both Diana and Black Adam with ease.

@majestic99: How does giving Thor the OF make him equal to Superman? By your own estimation, OF Thor is a "galaxy buster" so when has Superman, Wonder Woman or Black Adam busted a galaxy? What am I missing?

@TDK_1997 said:

With Speed Force and Odin Force yes but without them...He will lose to WW.

Jean was talking about Thor under these conditions(with OF and reactionary speed of Barry Allen)

@Deranged Midget said:

Having Barry Allen's reaction speed, which is greater than any of the other character's, will allow him to avoid being speed-blitzed and then proceed to murder both Diana and Black Adam with ease.

Even without Odin Force?

@80sBaby said:

@majestic99: How does giving Thor the OF make him equal to Superman? By your own estimation, OF Thor is a "galaxy buster" so when has Superman, Wonder Woman or Black Adam busted a galaxy? What am I missing?

Without OF or speed force, Thor loses to Superman because Thor is slow. And thus will get speedblitzed.

m99

@majestic99 said:

Even without Odin Force?

No, without Odin Force the outcome would be completely different.

@majestic99: I disagree but ok.

@80sBaby said:

@majestic99: I disagree but ok.

Disagree on which part? I'm open to different opinions.

@Deranged Midget said:

No, without Odin Force the outcome would be completely different.

What do you think the outcome would be/

m99

@a88378438 said:

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

Thor is stronger, more durable, more experienced in combat, more powerful due to possesing much more versatile powerset

lol I just realised Thor has Odin Force, effortless curbstomp Thor destroys team 2

@majestic99: That Superman beats Thor due to speedblitz. But this isn't the thread for that discussion.

Odinforce really? team 1

If this was the regular characters without Odin Force and Reaction time team 2 wins

@Deranged Midget said:

@majestic99 said:

Even without Odin Force?

No, without Odin Force the outcome would be completely different.

@majestic99 said:

@TDK_1997 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman

HAHAHAHA! NO!

With speed force and odin force, YES!!!!!

He would beat her without either...

Explain to me how Wonder Woman beats Thor?...

@BigCimmerian said:

@a88378438 said:

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

Thor is stronger, more durable, more experienced in combat, more powerful due to possesing much more versatile powerset

I already stated this:

@majestic99 said:

@a88378438 said:

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

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@BigCimmerian said:

lol I just realised Thor has Odin Force, effortless curbstomp Thor destroys team 2

...and the reactionary speed of Barry Allen.

@80sBaby said:

@majestic99: That Superman beats Thor due to speedblitz. But this isn't the thread for that discussion.

Changed my mind. Thor can throw his hammer billions of times FTL. Superman doesn't have billions of times FTL reaction time. Thor wins. But if you want to continue this discussion just PM me. I'm open to other opinions.

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Odinforce really? team 1

If this was the regular characters without Odin Force and Reaction time team 2 wins

Which is why I gave reaction time, other wise it would've been a stomp in team 2 favor.

m99

@jeanroygrant said:

He would beat her without either...

Explain to me how Wonder Woman beats Thor?...

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

This.

@majestic99 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

He would beat her without either...

Explain to me how Wonder Woman beats Thor?...

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She wouldn't.

m99

I know.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

This.

Again, what if he didn't have the OF? And do you hate me?

m99

@majestic99 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

This.

Again, what if he didn't have the OF? And do you hate me?

m99

@majestic99: Thor has a good chance of defeating Wonder Woman, but I don't see why he would fight her, when Superman stands a better chance against her due to a slight disadvantage he might have against Black Adam.

@majestic99 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

This.

Again, what if he didn't have the OF? And do you hate me?

m99

Why would he hate you?

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

Agreed

WW beats Thor 5/10 
Thor beats Adam 5/10 
 
Superman Beats Adam 4/10 due to Magic Weakeness 
 Superman beats WW 6/10 due to more invulnerability and more rangier powers. 
 
Split.