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#1 Edited by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

No prep, all bloodlusted, fight takes place on an empty Earth 10 feet apart. No bfr. All versions besides Thor are pre 52

Classic Thor possesses the Odin Force

Classic Thor and Black Adam possess reactionary(NOT TRAVEL) speed of Barry Allen

Thor

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#2 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (10609 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

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#3 Posted by AweSam (7527 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1. Without the reaction time, team 2.

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#4 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

Team 1. Without the reaction time, team 2.

That's why I give speed force powers. Because without it, he's the weak link. Don't you agree?

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#5 Posted by AweSam (7527 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@AweSam said:

Team 1. Without the reaction time, team 2.

That's why I give speed force powers. Because without it, he's the weak link. Don't you agree?

Nope, Superman is. With the speed force, Thor's pretty much unbeatable.

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#6 Posted by blackadamFTW (7882 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

@majestic99 said:

@AweSam said:

Team 1. Without the reaction time, team 2.

That's why I give speed force powers. Because without it, he's the weak link. Don't you agree?

Nope, Superman is. With the speed force, Thor's pretty much unbeatable.

He's saying Thor without the Speed Force is the weak link, not Thor with the Speed Force.

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#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor>Wonder Woman
Superman>Black Adam

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#8 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman
Superman>Black Adam

So you believe Team 1 stomps?

@blackadamFTW said:

Nope, Superman is. With the speed force, Thor's pretty much unbeatable.

He's saying Thor without the Speed Force is the weak link, not Thor with the Speed Force.

Exactly.

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#9 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@majestic99 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman
Superman>Black Adam

So you believe Team 1 stomps?

@blackadamFTW said:

Nope, Superman is. With the speed force, Thor's pretty much unbeatable.

He's saying Thor without the Speed Force is the weak link, not Thor with the Speed Force.

Exactly.


Not a stomp and no Thor is not weakest link.

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#10 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant:

Even with the reactionary speed of Barry Allen?

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#11 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@jeanroygrant:

Even with the reactionary speed of Barry Allen?

Yup.

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#12 Posted by a88378438 (3527 posts) - - Show Bio

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

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#13 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio
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#14 Posted by bluepride1234 (331 posts) - - Show Bio

It's really not fair to give one character a reactionary speed of a flash and not to the other. Give it to black adam also then :).

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#15 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluepride1234 said:

It's really not fair to give one character a reactionary speed of a flash and not to the other. Give it to black adam also then :).

Changed it.

m99

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#16 Posted by 0n1zuka (3712 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 wins. Team 2 doesn't have an answer for the Odin Force.

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#17 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@0n1zuka said:

Team 1 wins. Team 2 doesn't have an answer for the Odin Force.

Explain.

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#18 Posted by silverlord90 (229 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@0n1zuka said:

Team 1 wins. Team 2 doesn't have an answer for the Odin Force.

Explain.

I believe because Odin Force puts Thor in Skyfather Level i don't Think neither WW nor Adam, despite being powered by gods, are Skyfather level, though skyfather is a Marvel Universe term.

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#19 Posted by fangirl101 (569 posts) - - Show Bio

What is the point of giving Thor the Odin Force?

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#20 Posted by Deranged Midget (18346 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

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#21 Posted by termiteone4ever (11312 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman
Superman>Black Adam

NO NO NO.

Wonder woman got Thor... This what i keep noticing with Thor over the Years against fast strong enemies who uses their speed and combat will defeat Thor

As for Black Adam and Supes IT could be go on for while but Supes i agree he does have the Edge

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#22 Edited by 0n1zuka (3712 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99:

Silverlord90 and Deranged Midget said what I would have. OF Thor is too powerful for WW/BA to handle, adding Barry's reaction speed is just icing on the cake.

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#23 Posted by TDK_1997 (17625 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 wins.

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#24 Posted by 80sBaby (1361 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor and Superman win. Good fight, though.

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#25 Posted by Pokeysteve (11392 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin Force Thor solos?

Without the OF and speed boost, I think team two wins the majority.

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#26 Posted by TDK_1997 (17625 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman

HAHAHAHA! NO!

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#27 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman

HAHAHAHA! NO!

With speed force and odin force, YES!!!!!

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#28 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@fangirl101 said:

What is the point of giving Thor the Odin Force?

To make it more fair so he doesn't lose against powerhouses like Superman?

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

How? Neither make him faster. The former makes him a galaxy buster and the latter means he can't be speedblitzed.

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#29 Posted by TDK_1997 (17625 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@TDK_1997 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman

HAHAHAHA! NO!

With speed force and odin force, YES!!!!!

With Speed Force and Odin Force yes but without them...He will lose to WW.

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#30 Posted by Deranged Midget (18346 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

How? Neither make him faster. The former makes him a galaxy buster and the latter means he can't be speedblitzed.

Having Barry Allen's reaction speed, which is greater than any of the other character's, will allow him to avoid being speed-blitzed and then proceed to murder both Diana and Black Adam with ease.

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#31 Posted by 80sBaby (1361 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: How does giving Thor the OF make him equal to Superman? By your own estimation, OF Thor is a "galaxy buster" so when has Superman, Wonder Woman or Black Adam busted a galaxy? What am I missing?

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#32 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

With Speed Force and Odin Force yes but without them...He will lose to WW.

Jean was talking about Thor under these conditions(with OF and reactionary speed of Barry Allen)

@Deranged Midget said:

Having Barry Allen's reaction speed, which is greater than any of the other character's, will allow him to avoid being speed-blitzed and then proceed to murder both Diana and Black Adam with ease.

Even without Odin Force?

@80sBaby said:

@majestic99: How does giving Thor the OF make him equal to Superman? By your own estimation, OF Thor is a "galaxy buster" so when has Superman, Wonder Woman or Black Adam busted a galaxy? What am I missing?

Without OF or speed force, Thor loses to Superman because Thor is slow. And thus will get speedblitzed.

m99

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#33 Posted by Deranged Midget (18346 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

Even without Odin Force?

No, without Odin Force the outcome would be completely different.

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#34 Posted by 80sBaby (1361 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: I disagree but ok.

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#35 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby said:

@majestic99: I disagree but ok.

Disagree on which part? I'm open to different opinions.

@Deranged Midget said:


No, without Odin Force the outcome would be completely different.

What do you think the outcome would be/

m99

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#36 Posted by bigcimmerian (10319 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438 said:

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

Thor is stronger, more durable, more experienced in combat, more powerful due to possesing much more versatile powerset

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#37 Posted by bigcimmerian (10319 posts) - - Show Bio

lol I just realised Thor has Odin Force, effortless curbstomp Thor destroys team 2

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#38 Posted by 80sBaby (1361 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: That Superman beats Thor due to speedblitz. But this isn't the thread for that discussion.

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#39 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2851 posts) - - Show Bio

Odinforce really? team 1

If this was the regular characters without Odin Force and Reaction time team 2 wins

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#40 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@majestic99 said:

Even without Odin Force?

No, without Odin Force the outcome would be completely different.

@majestic99 said:

@TDK_1997 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor>Wonder Woman

HAHAHAHA! NO!

With speed force and odin force, YES!!!!!

He would beat her without either...

Explain to me how Wonder Woman beats Thor?...

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#41 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@a88378438 said:

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

Thor is stronger, more durable, more experienced in combat, more powerful due to possesing much more versatile powerset

I already stated this:

@majestic99 said:

@a88378438 said:

thor>wonder woman? how?stronger?faster? i say ww > thor

@BigCimmerian said:

lol I just realised Thor has Odin Force, effortless curbstomp Thor destroys team 2

...and the reactionary speed of Barry Allen.

@80sBaby said:

@majestic99: That Superman beats Thor due to speedblitz. But this isn't the thread for that discussion.

Changed my mind. Thor can throw his hammer billions of times FTL. Superman doesn't have billions of times FTL reaction time. Thor wins. But if you want to continue this discussion just PM me. I'm open to other opinions.

@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

Odinforce really? team 1

If this was the regular characters without Odin Force and Reaction time team 2 wins

Which is why I gave reaction time, other wise it would've been a stomp in team 2 favor.

m99

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#43 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12466 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

This.

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#44 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio
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#45 Posted by majestic99 (8915 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

This.

Again, what if he didn't have the OF? And do you hate me?

m99

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#46 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12466 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

This.

Again, what if he didn't have the OF? And do you hate me?

m99

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#47 Posted by Deranged Midget (18346 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: Thor has a good chance of defeating Wonder Woman, but I don't see why he would fight her, when Superman stands a better chance against her due to a slight disadvantage he might have against Black Adam.

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#48 Posted by Deranged Midget (18346 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

This.

Again, what if he didn't have the OF? And do you hate me?

m99

Why would he hate you?

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#49 Posted by Dru_zod (229 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

Thor without the Odin Force can easily give Wonder Woman/ Black Adam a fight. Adding in the Odin Force AND the reactionary speed of Barry Allen is a massive curb stomp.

Agreed

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#50 Posted by fangirl101 (569 posts) - - Show Bio

WW beats Thor 5/10 
Thor beats Adam 5/10 
 
Superman Beats Adam 4/10 due to Magic Weakeness 
 Superman beats WW 6/10 due to more invulnerability and more rangier powers. 
 
Split.