Thor and Hulk vs. Superman and Wonder Woman

-Current versions of all characters.

-Win by any means

-In character

-Perfect teamwork for both sides.

Hulk three-shots (yes, I included his slowpoke teammate).

No, Diana isn't soloing Post-Core Breach/WWH Hulk who is the current Hulk but unlike Superman, his power level hasn't dropped at all, in fact, he seemed more powerful and stronger as opposed to the current Superman (Rebirth). However, he has the physicals to defeat Pre-52 Superman, he'd casually walk all over Diana.

Hulk is mvp... somehow hes the only one who hasnt had his power level drastically lowered.

Hulk solos all 3

Omg we've seen this thread so many times.

Also why make it current versions?

Clark and Diana have no chance of winning if we use just their Rebirth versions.

Hulk solos.

Team DC. People really sleeping on Diana when in fact she has been more impressive than Clark lately. She took on an Amped Darkseid and won.

Oops my bad, I didn't read the OP. Assumed it was the movie versions.

@wonderwomanfan3: Oh, make sense.

I've grown a little weary of reading about MCU Hulk taking out Doomsday and MCU Stormbreaker being a galaxy buster or whatever; so my first inclination is to counter that whenever I see those names lol.

Yea that's called PIS my friend.

Such a unique and unusual battle. Rebirth Supes and WW get one-shotted.

@azmoddan: It would be PIS if she starts jobbing and her performance drops significantly after. It hasn't yet. She has been pretty consistently impressive, while she was getting her ass kicked but she was still surviving against a massive amped Darkseid.

She also stomped an amped Supergirl.

Yea, that is pretty impressive IMO. Team DC takes it.

And besides, Thor just got his hammer back and in issue #1 he only fought Juggernaut who was bitch slapping him around for the most part. Haven't read any of the Avengers stuff tho.

It's PIS regardless because WW is not suppose to beat Darkseid let an alone an amped one, you know this or at least should know this since it's common sense. Oh and you can be sure she will job, i mean just a month ago she almost died to a bullet from an AR. The writers in DC don't care about consistency, i mean a few months before that Batman defeated Superman with a whistle and Catwoman one-shotted 3 Flashes.

I am not sure about that @empressofdread might disagree on the stomping part.

Team DC still has no way of winning this.

Yea but Thor isn't even needed here because Hulk has been actually pretty consistent and has been slapping around everyone he came across including the entirety of the Avengers.

Wonder Woman fought a skyfather

GG no re people lol

@azmoddan: You can call Darkseid PIS if you want but the Kara thing was not and we will probably see more of Diana in the upcoming fights with the Gods.

Anyway, Right now I am at work, so I guess, we can argue some other time but Team DC takes this since current Thor is featless.

Together they can overwhelm Hulk.

And don't remind of the Catwoman thing, I like to pretend it never happened. Rebirth has been pretty good so far for the most part.

And it looks like Marvel too has regained some of its sense and dropped some of their stupid SJW Agenda.

Champions of the Universe.

Pretty sure Juggs was amped though.

The Kara thing is not PIS, but Darkseid thing absolutely is.

Also WW current feats do not erase her previous ones, that's not how feats work, the only way it would erase it if this was a new version of WW or a WW with some amp but nope it's still the same WW that almost died to a bullet, the same WW who got overpowered by Damage who is nowhere near Hulks level , so yea her and Clark still lose.

You don't like the Catwoman thing but are fine with Diana beating an amped Darkseid?

Come on dude...

@azmoddan: You can'take low showing of a character as an absolute snd ignore high showings. That's not how it works, yes she had a low showing and so do almost every other hero.

If Darkseid thing is PIS, then bullet one is definitely PIS.

You can't honestly think that Diana who is fast enough to blitz Cheetah who is speedster level, blitzer an amped Supergirl would be tagged by a bullet?.

And no, I still think Clark and Diana win. Right now, I gotta work, I will post some stuff later on.

Wow is current Hulk really that strong???

I am not, thnat's the point, i am averaging the showings and taking the more consistent ones, i am not saying Hulk and Thor are gonna shoot WW or something lol. Yea but it's wildly known that all of Rebirth characters have a lot of low showings and are generally weaker than their new-52 and especially pre-52 versions.

Well the bullet thing happened 3 times in Rebirth... so i am not sure if it's actually PIS if it happens 3 times.

It's not about her being tagged by a bullet, it's about her not being durable enough to tank one.

You can think what you want it doesn't change the outcome. Neither have the damage output to put down current Hulk, i am guessing you don't know anything about his feats?

Yeah Thor and Hulk win handily.

@b_r023: You do know this hulk only took ACTUAL damage when he was punched BY A FREAKING ELDER.... How will they overwhelm him when he took the combined attack of both she-thor (with Mjolnir) and Herc and shrugged it off LIKE NOTHING. Not to mention, if we bring his Green Scar feats, then your theory of them "overwhelming him" goes into the trash.

@incursion2: Current hulk is basically Green Scar. And Green Scar was/is A MONSTER. Not to mention, Immortal hulk tanked simultaneous hits from both Herc (who had all his power back) and she-thor (with Mjolnir) and shrugged it off like it was garbage.

The only time he was hurt/bleeding is when he was punched by the challenge, who is an ELDER. And it wasn't a holding back punch as well, Challenger was mad as hell because hulk made him bleed and nearly closed his right eye in 2 punches.

We need some NEW match ups..........

OT: I think there is a lot to factor here, I can see both teams winning, but as usual Hulk and Thor should win. (With Some difficulties).

Team 2

@thedarkpaladin: Congrats 22.000 Posts, LOL.

OT: Team 1.

lmao true

@theoriginalone:

saying Hulk was only hurt by an elder doesnt really mean much Elders of the Universe really aren't impressive.

Both the Collecter and Grandmaster got oneshotted by Drax

Thor annihilated the Collecter once

The Champion was struggling to put down Ben Grimm

the only elder who's been impressive is Runner and Challenger

@_kingoflatveria: And it was the challenger that was only able to hurt Hulk. So my point still stands.

Hulk accidentally steps on Thor while beating up Wonder Woman and Superman

@theoriginalone: your point doesn't stand because your saying being hurt by an Elder is impressive when it's not

Elders have never been impressive, there's only that one statement about them being on par with Uatu the Watcher but then again there's another statement from Uatu saying Blue Marvel is moon level and that Apocolypse was his superior(or something like that)

Being hurt by an elder does not mean anything based on the power levels of elders if you're trying to imply only an elder can hurt the Hulk then that's a huge NLF as well

I already said Hulk can solo all 3 of these guys Rebirth Superman's best feat is sending someone to the moon which is something mid tiers can tank and Aaron has nerfed Thor to low hell at this point, Diana is well errm Diana

I'm just saying being hurt by an elder is not an impressive feat for Hulk

Immortal Hulk solos

@joviolma: Thanks

How are people saying "with some difficulty"?

Immortal hulk treats team 2 like fodder.

Current? Lol.

Either Thor or Hulk could probably solo.

It almost feels intentional that they KEEP using current weakened Superman vs op versions of their favorite heroes.

Guys, Wonder Woman did not fight a in character Supergirl. And she defeated her using a lasso, her lasso actually cause some kind of weird reaction (confirmed by Wonder Woman) so she passed out.

If you read the fight from Wonder-Woman vol 5 Issue-47, your will find out Kara actually fought in a stupid way, I can fight better than her. It was like a Wonder Woman vs a rabid dog with heat vision who was unable to fight fight. WW blocks heat vision easily. HV never works properly on Wonder Woman.

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Anyone who reads Supergirl comics knows that is an extremely stupid way to fight. For a person who actually knows how to fight.

Supergirl Vol. 7 #14, Supergirl trained under Iching. For example.

She fights with her fists and not like a stupid idiot who uses heat vision and yells," I am going to kill you, I am going to destroy you. " ( mind controlled) Now Wonder Woman should be able to defeat Kara. All I am saying is that fight should not be used as a means to give feats to Wonder Woman. Supergirl is consistent in rebirth, Superman and Wonder Woman are not. They are getting low showings.

I think Hulk can solo since Rebirth Superman himself is all speed but no other stats - like Durability and Striking.

Marvel stomps, both of them can one shot the opposite team.

Thor probably breaks a hammer or two during the fight tho lol

@_kingoflatveria: Not to mention the Challenger was man-handling a Team of Mid/High-Tiers until Scarlett Witch stepped up(Was it SW? i forgot) and one-shot him. He's more of a High-Tier to low-tier Herald

@theoriginalone:

Saying elder was to point to the Challenger. I didn't say ever Elder now did I?

the challenger---is an elder

We are talking about Immortal hulk here. He was only properly hurt by the challenger during the whole event. I am not saying he can ONLY be hurt by an elder but his durability was so high, you need that kind of attack power similar to the Challenger.

my point is clearly not being recognized