This is War: Floopay's Team-Up Tournament

@betatesthighlander1: Mr_Ingenuity, Omgomgwtfwtf, fetts, are waiting on partners. And if you just wanna save a spot I can serve as a temporary partner until round 3 (you will still debate against people, but with me as a partner).

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: ... o_O

@sync1 Dude are you teaming up with me or are you teaming up with @pr0metheus?

@fetts: @mr_ingenuity@omgomgwtfwtf wanna do this?

good to know

@floopay@cadencev2 Alright, so this is our FINAL team.

• Champions: Zoro (Pre TS)/Ultimate Captain America
• The Leader: Big Boss
• The Mastermind: Otacon
• The Meatshield: Miles
• The Scout: Psycho Mantis (IDW)
• The Wildcard: Solid Snake (IDW/Games)
• The Minions: Genome Soldiers/Arsenal Tengu

Now just one final question: if Cadence and I use IDW comics Solid Snake, which covered Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2, can we still use MGS4 feats as well? Guns of The Patriots didn't get a comic book adaptation, but it's still within the timeline of the graphic novels.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/28/metal-gear-solid-newbies-should-start-with-mgs3-due-to-modern-controls-says-kojima/

Hideo Kojima recommends that players skip the first two games entirely and just read the novels for the story before playing MGS4.

@floopay: how do you stand on characters with specified AoE negation abilities?

@thedarklordpandamonium: Not to barge in or anything but Galen never brought down the Star Destroyer it was already falling all he did was simply guided towards the junk canon (I have the quotes and scans to prove it of you want)

So you think he'd be inside the limits? @i_like_swords

@floopay: will we have team deliberation later, or should we try to raise questions of power now?

That's what I thought as well. I can't remember him breaking the TK limits, and I certainly wouldn't use an above 2 ton TK feat, or try to sneak him in. But I'd rather find a replacement anyway to avoid making a problem out of it.

@nickzambuto: I already stated this, comic versions are limited exclusively to comic feats. If we use game versions then we have crossover feats and have to consider them the same version. That's just how it is.

@betatesthighlander1 I will be making a team deliberation thread. I have no problem with negation spells, as long as it's in the limits.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: good to know

@i_like_swords: Well unless one wants to call guiding an already falling Star Destroyer and knocking down a AT-ST over the 2 limit. You should be good. For speed Galen is within the limit imo, his best speed feat is moving faster then Juno could see (something Spider-Man can do) reflecting a dozen blaster bolts (again something Pete maybe able to replicate) and keeping up with Vader ( one could argue If this puts him above the speed limit but one could also argue it does not. Someone like me can argue and win for both sides of the coin) That's just my two senses on Galen if it means anything. xD

Kojima is commenting on the Book Novels, not the Graphic Novels.

This is kinda untrue as well. Example is all the feats for MGS3, Peace Walker, MG, MG2, and the new MGS5 Game are all before the Comic Timeline which diverges from the Games then.

So those games of the canon establish before the Comic Timeline are canon to the comic.

@dccomicsrule2011: Galen crushes AT-ST or whatever the smaller ones are called with the force. he also stopped it from going farther yeah not as impressive as actually bringing it down but he actually stopped it.

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@floopay Me and @sync1 are no longer a team cause everyone im good with using is over the limit in some way. so you can drop me out.

I will not allow crossover feats. If two versions are canon at the same time, then they are considered the same version. So pick one or the other.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

I don't remember his fight with Vader being too action packed to be honest. I thought it was more of a force-struggle between him, Vader and Sidious.

Haven't read Force Unleashed 2 yet though.

He's talking about the graphic novels. The book novels weren't included in the Legacy Collection.

@floopay Well yes but Guns of The Patriots is still canon with the graphic novels. MGS1 and 2 are different from comics 1 and 2, but they both lead into the same thing. Think of it like Star Wars, just because the movies didn't get a comic adaptation, the comics are still supposed to lead into them.

@i_like_swords: I have not read TFU II either mainly because I heard people say it sucks O_O

@nickzambuto: So essentially you'll both be debating with the same version of a character...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@fetts: man?

you wanna team up?

@betatesthighlander1: I'm still waiting on sync1's reply. His partner situation is a little confusing. If he's already taken, I guess I can team with you.

@betatesthighlander1: Scratch that.

@floopay: @sync1 says that he's not with @pr0metheus anymore. He's with me.

@fetts: so am I in or what?

Nononono. We've agreed to use the IDW comics version of Solid Snake instead of the video game version. However, there is no comic adaptation of MGS4. I'm only asking if we can use MGS4 feats in addition to those set up in the comic.

You're in, you just need a partner.

That's the thing that's bothering me, is that both of you will have an assortment of overlapping feats if I allow that.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: so who's open right now?

@floopay: How are Jedi knights minions? Do they not break the 5 pound tk rule alone.

If there allowed sith us up.

Well if it does suck I'll send a stern letter of disapproval to Titan

@betatesthighlander1: Omgomgwtfwtf is open atm. But you can call someone in if you'd like.

@dextersinister Bring it up with the person who chose them. I'm a Star Trek guy, not much of a Star Wars guy.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@omgomgwtfwtf: wanna do this?

@nighthunder what about you?

@floopay:

Here is our final team.

Champions: The Shadow on the Line w/H-Dial Harness and Murtagh w/Thorn (is Thorn okay? giant dragon), regular Eldunari, Zar'roc, and armor

Leader: Josh Newman w/Clarent and Excalibur

Scout: Starlord w/standard gear I guess?

Mastermind: Maddison Jeffries (No Box, w/o Box his TK is within the limits)

Meatshield: Luther Strode w/nothing I suppose

Wildcard: Bloodshot w/I don't even know who he is

Minions: COG and Death Eaters w/standard gear (wands for DEs, dunno about the COGs)

@thedarklordpandamonium: what do you mean by "his telepathy is within limits"

@thedarklordpandamonium: I've seen you argue Eldunari as anywhere from world level, to city destruction level, to universal level. It's hard to allow them.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: Okay quick question. Would Rebellion era Luke be above the limit for the Champion spot? =O

@thedarklordpandamonium: Jeffries can rip the steel pillars and crush robots with super strength with his TK and is normally used as a create anything device.

@dccomicsrule2011: Wasn't he lifting X-Wings at that point? Which at 12.5 meters long would be above the limits.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

TK=Telekinesis

Yeah, 2,500 Glaedr-size Eldunarya

Murtagh's regular store of specifically small Eldunarya is only used to make him > Eragon

I remember him crushing a car (which doesn't require a ton) and a truck (same there) but again I've only read the respect thread.

Wait, what do you mean by the both of us? I think there's some kind of confusion here.

• Champions: Roronoa Zoro (Pre TS)/Ultimate Captain America
• The Leader: Big Boss
• The Mastermind: Otacon
• The Meatshield: Miles
• The Scout: Psycho Mantis (IDW)
• The Wildcard: Solid Snake (IDW/Games)
• The Minions: Genome Soldiers/Arsenal Tengu

This is the final team build for Cadence and I. We are the only people using Solid Snake, as well as only using one version of the character: the IDW comic book series. Said comics only cover the first two games however. So what I'm asking is, can we use feats from the video game Metal Gear Solid 4 in addition to those presented in the books? In that link I posted up above, Kojima considers the comics and games synonymous, so Guns of The Patriots still happens within the comic series timeline. We won't however, use feats from the first two games, as that is separate from the comic series timeline.

@nickzambuto: Ah, I was thinking you and someone else were using feats of a same character. In that case I don't care, have at it. :P

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@thedarklordpandamonium: You weren't disagreeing with me when I was backing you up in another tournament when Jffries was being used against you. I even posted those feats as examples. He ripped apart a guy who strong tonners couldn't beat, he rips pillars out of walls and uses them to spear monsters

Jeffries is way above the TK limit for champions let alone the mastermind who has no tk

Do they? Then do you think space marines from warhammer40k break the limits?

@thedarklordpandamonium: oh yeah, sorry

but were you saying he was being weakened, or he already is below limits?

@thedarklordpandamonium: Alright, I'll allow him but if someone proves he's over the limits you may get boned.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@darkraiden: Hell yes, if they are here they should be booted as well. They break strength, durability, weaponry and probably some other rule.

@floopay: He never lifted a X-wing at this point but he did, breifly (for like maybe 5 to 6 seconds), with tons of strain hold up a falling AT-ST. Oh and just in case of confusion I mean the AT-ST which is much smaller then the bigger AT-AT.

Yeah but the limit there was 'crushing a car' not 1 ton.

@floopay is the mastermind not allowed to have Telekinesis? If so...Forge I guess.

(I don't actually intend to use him XD)

There are like 2 other people on these forums who read TIC XD but ty.

@thedarklordpandamonium: Mastermind can have TK and TP. I'll edit the OP but TP doesn't have a limit, and TK is at 2 tons.

@dccomicsrule2011 You realize, of course, that an AT-ST officially weighs 13.25 tons right?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Alright cool! Jeffries is in then.

AT-STs are 12,100 kg or 13.338 tons...just my 0.02