If you look closely at the fight between him and Mundus, they were actually moving at faster than light speeds. At the start, they were surrounded on all sides, as well as above and below, by stars, and when they flew higher, the stars were instantly nowhere to be seen. This is supported by the fact that when Mundus flew upwards, the stars in the background rapidly rolled down the screen, indicating he was moving fast enough to change his position greatly in relation to the stars, which would require him to have covered distance at least comparable to the distance separating him from the stars, which is something that would require faster than light speed, though we can't get a number from it.
Let's say the stars above them were only 1 light year away, which is less than the distance to the Earth's nearest star, and thus a drastic understatement of the distance. Dante and Mundus flew past them in a second, so far past them their light was no longer visible below. That means they travelled at least double the distance to the stars in one second. Let's say that's only two light years in a second, even though it was most likely at least several million.
1 light year per second means:
365 X 24 X 60 X 60 = 31,536,000 X the speed of light.
Double that for the distance they went past the stars. 31536000 X 2 = 63072000
Even if the stars above them were only 1 light year away, the speed they travelled to reach the stars would still be 31,536,000 X the speed of light, and therefore the actual speed they travelled at would be 63,072,000 X the speed of light. Seeing as stars were visible on all sides, the chance that all the stars above were within a light year away is almost non-existent. It's far more likely the more distant stars above them were at least a million light years away, which would mean Dante and Mundus travelled 2 million light years in a second, and let's also not forget that the light not being visible below them means that is a substantially greater distance than the distance that had been separating them from the stars above them. Even if we ignore that, 2 million light years per second is 63,072,000,000,000 X the speed of light.
In km/h, that means:
Light speed is 1,079,251,200 km/h. Effectively 1,080,000,000.
1,080,000,000 X 63,072,000 = 68,117,760,000,000,000 km/hr. 68 quadrillion km/h if the stars were only one light year away. 68 sextillion if the furthest ones were a million light years away. Note that he isn't always this fast though. His base form isn't even close.
In base form Dante is seen to comfortably outpace cloud to ground lightning used by Griffon, as he can literally use the lightning as a set of platforms to jump higher. Cloud to ground lightning has varying views on its speed, but it's comfortably massively hypersonic at least. In addition Dante in base already has light speed reactions as he can dodge and even block lasers from Damned Rooks and more obvious blasts of light from Beowulf the Lightbeast, and Vergil can reflect laser attacks from Artemis. Quicksilver can be calculated too, not that it's all that relevant. Activation of Quicksilver caused rocks that had been moving at at least 40km/h to slow down to the point they weren't visibly moving. To summarise, that means it went from 40km/h to less than 1cm/sec.
40 kilometres = 4,000,000cm. So 4,000,000cm an hour
1 hour = 3600 seconds
4,000,000 ÷ 3600 = 1111
1111cm/sec is turned into 1cm/sec.
Quicksilver slows time by at least 1000 times. Dante also has the Bangle of time, which totally freezes time for 5 seconds. Combine that with light speed reactions and massively hypersonic base speed and Dante can compete in the speed category even without the Mundus battle feats.
Goku:
Goku flew around a planet of uncertain size, but let's say 50 times the size of Earth, in 5 seconds. However, he flew from one side to the other, which is HALF the circumference, meaning he covered 25 times Earth's circumference in 5 seconds.
The circumference of Earth is 40,075km/24901 miles, and light is 186,000 miles per second. So it would take about 0.1338763 seconds, a little over a tenth of a second, for light to circle the Earth, which means if Namek is 50 times that it would take about 5 seconds for light to circle Namek, meaning Goku's feat of circling half of that in 5 seconds would be a half of light speed feat.
However, if we instead base Namek's size on Earth's own, then the same feat applies but effectively divided by 50. Truthfully it makes more sense to believe it's closer to Earth's size. Anyway, the Earth's circumference is 40075km/24901 miles. Goku circled half of Namek in five seconds, making his trip 20,037km/12,450 miles in five seconds, 4000km/sec or 2490 miles/sec, 240000km/min, 14,400,000km/h, 8,964,000mph, making for a Mach 11,794 feat.
Another way is the fact Gohan's blast which kills Cell is seen to travel distance similar to the Earth's diameter in a little over six seconds. Earth's diameter is 12,742km, traversing that in 6 seconds is 2,123km/sec or 1319.58529 miles per second, which is about a 140th of light speed, just over Mach 6,000 or for those who want a specific number Mach 6250.66716.
Possibly a more quantifiable speed feat is Gotenks circling double the Earth's circumference 5 times, or essentially circling the Earth's circumference 10 times, in 1 second. The Earth's circumference times 10 is 249,010 miles, and light is 186,000 miles per second. 249,010 ÷ 186,000 = 1.33876344, making Gotenks 1.3 times light speed.
That's if we're assuming it took one second because it was one panel on the manga page. It could easily have taken longer. It takes 6 seconds in the anime, which would mean dividing the 249,010 miles per second by 6, making for 41,501 miles per second or 149,406,000mph, which is Mach 196,586.
Some assess that since he had almost run out of fusion time or to be more specific only had one minute left of fusion, that it took 20 minutes, which would mean 12,450 miles per minute, 747,030mph, Mach 983.
20 minutes is a possibility but seems too low since it would mean Gotenks was slower than Namek Saga Goku, which he obviously isn't, but at the same time one second is inconsistent with the fact he had almost run out of fusion time, meaning that if Gotenks took one second the rest of that time was Piccolo catching up, which would be inconsistent with Goku's feat on Namek as it would mean Super Piccolo was far slower than Namek Saga base Goku, and while he did say he was looking for Gotenks it's doubtful he'd take twenty minutes just to find him since he could sense Gotenks' energy.
Realistically the only way they could use that time in that event is if Piccolo was chasing Gotenks around the Earth for twenty minutes since Goku's feat on Namek showed us that Piccolo can easily traverse Earth's circumference in a few seconds, and it seems doubtful that someone who can do that and also feel out Ki would take twenty minutes to find Gotenks. To give some middle ground, even if it was one minute it would be Mach 19,658. The forums generally list Gotenks as Mach 31,000. Goku's also a lot stronger now so we have to scale upwards.
Goku: 1.34 X light speed. Higher to unknown extent in SS forms and with God upgrades.
Base Dante: Mach 100 with light speed reactions, Mach 100,000 with 1000 times FTL reactions with Quicksilver, can make copies of himself and also outright stop time for five seconds.
Devil Trigger Dante: 60,000,000 times light speed at minimum. Still has Quicksilver and Time Bangle.
Since Dante can't maintain Devil Trigger indefinitely he had to fight in base a few times, and was only able to trade blows with Goku because of his reaction speed, and his sudden speed boosts which let him hit Goku faster than Goku could react were brief use of Quicksilver or the Bangle of Time, but with all his extra abilities considered he can survive that until either Devil Trigger or Majin form can be used. Of course, Goku was getting accustomed to Dante's sudden speed boosts and was no easy target for them.
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