Thing (Earth 616) vs General Zod (New 52/Rebirth)

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Rules

  • Random Encounter
  • Current Thing
  • New 52/Rebirth version of Zod
  • Standart gears
  • No additional help
  • BFR allowed ( doesn't count as victory)
  • Wins by death or incapacitation

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General Zod curbstomps.

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I haven’t read rebirth yet. But I’d still put my money on Zod

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Zod under 2 Sun amps got his ass kicked by Hal, i have no idea how he is going to put down Thing.

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Zod wins by being a much better character

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#12  Edited By matchesmalone28

@underfire47 said:

Zod under 2 Sun amps got his ass kicked by Hal, i have no idea how he is going to put down Thing.

Looks like you didn't read the issue 37 where Zod beat him up ,even though he was wearing the most powerful ring of the Corps....whose power came directly from the emotional spectrum. He only defeated Zod in issue 40 or 41 when he was no longer holding back. I have to post scans??

Stop lowballing Hald Jordan!!

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Thing handily

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Zod curbs this shit!

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@huthimula: Yea that's why he got casually concussed by meme Superman.

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@underfire47 said:

Zod under 2 Sun amps got his ass kicked by Hal, i have no idea how he is going to put down Thing.

Looks like you didn't read the issue 37 where Zod beat him up ,even though he was wearing the most powerful ring of the Corps....whose power came directly from the emotional spectrum. He only defeated Zod in issue 40 or 41 when he was no longer holding back. I have to post scans??

Stop lowballing Hald Jordan!!

Great way to invalidate your own point... You can beat up pretty much anyone if they are holding back, it depends entirely on how much they are holding back. Literal street tiers could beat up high-tiers if the high-tiers held back enough for that.

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Zod losing to Hal isn’t relevant. Hal would destroy Thing with no issue

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It's relevant because Hal destroyed Zod more easily than he would Thing, in fact it's scary to imagine how much it would have been more of a stomp if it was regular Zod and not one under 2 stars amp.

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@matchesmalone28 said:
@underfire47 said:

Zod under 2 Sun amps got his ass kicked by Hal, i have no idea how he is going to put down Thing.

Looks like you didn't read the issue 37 where Zod beat him up ,even though he was wearing the most powerful ring of the Corps....whose power came directly from the emotional spectrum. He only defeated Zod in issue 40 or 41 when he was no longer holding back. I have to post scans??

Stop lowballing Hald Jordan!!

Great way to invalidate your own point... You can beat up pretty much anyone if they are holding back, it depends entirely on how much they are holding back. Literal street tiers could beat up high-tiers if the high-tiers held back enough for that.

You didn't invalidate anything, you're just running away from searching what I said

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@matchesmalone28: No i said you invalidate your own point. What? I can post the scans myself i read GL it's the reason why i know about the scans in the first place lol.

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What exactly are new 52/rebirth feats for zod

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@matchesmalone28: No i said you invalidate your own point. What? I can post the scans myself i read GL it's the reason why i know about the scans in the first place lol.

You read to the point of ignoring that Zod beat when Hal stepped on Jekuul.
Ignoring that no other Green Lantern was able to even hurt Zod, not even Kyle Rayner using Hal's ring

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@matchesmalone28: That's because most GL's are inconsistent fodder, Kyle is an embarrassment in Rebirth and Zod was AMPED.

Regular Zod here isn't beating Thing. Or did you make the thread with the winner in your mind and are now breaking the rules by debating for one?

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@huthimula: Yea that's why he got casually concussed by meme Superman.

Because a high end feat of Thing knocking out Hulk people blindly believe that he can beat anyone as if he were the most powerful being on the planet.

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#32  Edited By Underfire47

@matchesmalone28: The problem with people like you is you think knocking out Hulk is the highest thing Thing has done, when the same guy has knocked out Thor and Surfer before as well as having a plethora of other impressive feats.

Also i guess that confirms you broke the rules intentionally and are trying to make a thread with a winner in mind.

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@matchesmalone28: That's because most GL's are inconsistent fodder, Kyle is an embarrassment in Rebirth and Zod was AMPED.

Regular Zod here isn't beating Thing. Or did you make the thread with the winner in your mind and are now breaking the rules by debating for one?

Am I saying who's the winner?? I don't think so.
The only thing I was talking to you about until you talked about ''meme Superman''was about to not lowball Hal Jordan.

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@matchesmalone28: The problem with people like you is you think knocking out Hulk is the highest thing Thing has done, when the same guy has knocked out Thor and Surfer before as well as having a plethora of other impressive feats.

Also i guess that confirms you broke the rules intentionally and are trying to make a thread with a winner in mind.

In no other post I said who is the winner.....Can you show where I said that one of them would win ??

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@matchesmalone28: No but you are heavily implying by invalidating a recent Thing showing. Also why is it lowballing to say Hal beat up amped Zod?

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@matchesmalone28: No but you are heavily implying by invalidating a recent Thing showing. Also why is it lowballing to say Hal beat up amped Zod?

I just sick of people bring this only feat to the table like this feat is automatic victory.

By the way you mentioned Hal Jordan fighting Zod, it's like you're diminishing him

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#37  Edited By Underfire47

@matchesmalone28: I mean it's the most recent one and a pretty powerful one, especially considering that same version of Hulk has been going around ROFLstomping every other superhero he came across.

No i am just saying Zod (while amped) got stomped a non-holding back high-tier. I don't think he can beat Thing who(while not amped) didn't get stomped by a non-holding back high-tier.

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@matchesmalone28: I mean it's the most recent one and a pretty powerful one, especially considering that same version of Hulk has been going around ROFLstomping every other superhero he came across.

I know it's the latest and most powerful of his feats, but there are others that can be used as a basis for debate,to make the debate more interesting and informative.


Besides the other characters like Thor who is stronger than Ben were unable to replicate such a feat which is implausible or bad writing,although Thor has become a shadow of what once was. Noa get me wrong but I like elaborate debates

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@matchesmalone28: Sure and people have made those arguments in various threads.

Thing feat is a bit outlierish yes, personally i view it as a 1 in 100 perfect/lucky punhces that you throw and he did break his entire arm to achieve the effect. What is actually more impressive to me is that he took punches from Hulk for over an hour and despite having most of his body broken and half of his face completely missing he still had the will and drive to keep going. He is an incredibly resilient character.

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@matchesmalone28: Sure and people have made those arguments in various threads.

Thing feat is a bit outlierish yes, personally i view it as a 1 in 100 perfect/lucky punhces that you throw and he did break his entire arm to achieve the effect. What is actually more impressive to me is that he took punches from Hulk for over an hour and despite having most of his body broken and half of his face completely missing he still had the will and drive to keep going. He is an incredibly resilient character.

I don't know much about his feats, but that's something I've always heard about Ben Grimm..that he has great resilience and willpower. That argument of knocking out Hulk is getting boring,because many of the people who vote for Ben don't use other feats or elaborate about that fight. Even worse is that they don't analyze the opposing character,don't research about their powers and abilities and feats.

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Thing oneshots

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OP is showing bias, pls lock

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Zod

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Zod GODSTOMPS WHO MADE THIS

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Zod stomps

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Zod.

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N52/Rebirth Zod sucks, his feats rely on scaling to N52/Rebirth characters who also happen to suck. Thing beats his ass.

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Thing handily.