The Terminator Vs. The Predator

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The Terminator
The Terminator
The Predator
The Predator

Rules:

Fight to the death.

This is the T-800 from Terminator 2: Judgement Day.

This the Predator that fought the queen Xenomorph at the end of Alien Vs. Predator.

Standard morals.

The Terminator is armed with the same arsenal that he carried whilst destroying Cyberdine, which includes a mini-gun, grenade launcher and an 1911 colt pistol.

Standard equipment and weaponry for the Predator.

Location:

Terminator starts at red, Predator starts at blue.
Terminator starts at red, Predator starts at blue.

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What's stopping predator from cleaving through T-800 with his throwing glave?

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What's stopping predator from cleaving through T-800 with his throwing glave?

or shooting that shoulder cannon thingy ?

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Predator.

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@kyrees said:
@juzacloud said:

What's stopping predator from cleaving through T-800 with his throwing glave?

or shooting that shoulder cannon thingy ?

yup.

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Predator stomps. Too many abilities that will overwhelm the T-800.

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The Terminator gets reduced to scrap metal.

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#9  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

As a fan and debator for both, LOL at the people saying this...

@thedarkpaladin said:

Predator stomps. Too many abilities that will overwhelm the T-800.

or this...

@juzacloud said:
@kyrees said:
@juzacloud said:

What's stopping predator from cleaving through T-800 with his throwing glave?

or shooting that shoulder cannon thingy ?

yup.

lol.

Anyway, T-800s are made of Hyper Allow which tank more punishment than Preds claws or staff can do. The Shoulder canon by feats would likely damage a T-800 badly, but then so would a grenade launcher do the same to Pred. Here is some basic advatages of both.

T-800

  • Various sensors in X-Ray, Infrared, and HVG. This in turn really allows no stealth advantage for Predator.
  • Strength wise T-800 is stronger, and face way stronger beings than predator ever has.
  • Skill wise T-800 programming has shown time and again to adapt and face foes with more unique abilities, and a degree of martial skill.
  • Durability, T-800 is simply more durable. Not a discussion. Only the use of preds best weapons off the bat will end him.
  • Living Tissue. This is a neat ace in the hole against predator who will not understand that under the flesh is not a normal man, but a harden battle machine, and limiting all out attacks likely off the bat till too late.
  • Almost all the weapon in T-800 arsenal will harm Predator, however only a hand ful of preds own gear will do anything worthwhile to T-800.
  • Accuracy, T-800 is simply more accurate.

Predator

  • Various sensor modes to track T-800 as well.
  • Better weapons which is mainly due only to the Plasma canon.
  • Pretty durable, at least enough to not drop easily to the lower caliber weapons of T-800 gear loadout.

That is really it. Speed wise they are similar, stealth is not a factor, and both have the ability to end the other at range. Its a closer fight favoring T-800 honestly overall in range or close combat. The blades weapons will be next to useless on Arny, and the living tissue in a random battle will throw Predator off anyway.

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#10  Edited By AgentGhostRider

?

Lol at the Predator stomping

Terminator takes this

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@agentghostrider: agreed. Predator couldn't beat Arnold as a human. How's he gonna beat him as a T-800? Lol @ people thinking the pred wins.

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#12  Edited By AndreyS1337

1 v 1 battle: Predator wins via tactics.

Team vs team battle: Terminators win.

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Terminator can't shoot what he can't see.

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@fanatic: Lol @ that logic. T-800 couldn't beat a woman and a man. Predator made sport out of most of Arnolds team.

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@thedarkpaladin: lol @ your logic to the T-800 losing to a woman and a man.

First of all that was the T-800 from the first movie.

Second of all this debates not about the original T-800 fighting a Predator, its the T-800 from T2 that defeated a T-1000, a cyborg so advanced it would of killed 4 predators in 23 seconds due to its speed, agility, and healing factor that Preds can't compete agaimst.

Further more that soldier from T1 would of kicked the Predators @ss too. Plus he died by that T-800.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Unless you can show me T-800 dodging, predator takes this. He is mostly stationary.

-Once predator blast him with his mini cannon he'll see that he isn't human. Not to mention the damage T-800 will take will be severe.

-Predator has the agility and combat advantage. He could easily disarm T-800 from a distance. Better strength feats as well.

-Predator has a capture net that even a xenomorph struggle to get out of. That could be used as a setup.

T-1000 beatdown T-800 with a metal pipe that left him injured. Predator has an alien spear thats bigger than that pipe. Damage is MAXIMUM!

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@fanatic: So what is the difference between the T-800 in the fist movie and the T-800 in the second? The only difference I can recall would be his reprogramming to protect John instead of killing him.

As for the T-1000 beating the Predator, I can agree on that, but not to the extent you seem to think.

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#19  Edited By Fanatic

@juzacloud: Why do T-800's need to dodge when they can show off there durability by letting a man swing at him without damage?

Now Predators gonna blast the T-800 with shoulder canons? He should of done that to Arnold when he was a human.

T-1000 used surrounding objects to damage the T-800 because he couldn't shape shift into one of his own weapons to do it.

T-800 messed the T-1000 up pretty badly when one shot with the M-79 grenade blast. Show a predator surviving that?

If predator would of been able to beat Arnold as a human, then this topic would be more debatable for the pred,but T-800 wins to easily. All he has to do is roll around in Mudd to damage the preds vision and then the T-800 dances around him and punches his head off and turns the pred into a horribly damaged punching bag.

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#20  Edited By Fanatic

@horustheavenger: T-800's do have night vision, heat vision..etc.. I'm sure he can spot the predator even if it goes invisible.

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#21  Edited By Capfan85

Fan of both, I think Scar has the advantage here, he can leap several stories without a running start allowing him to seek cover from the minigun. Once Scar takes cover and cloaks or conceals himself, he can then use his plasma caster to destroy the minigun...we saw this in the Predators movie. Then he will use his bio mask to scan the T800 and see that it is in fact a machine, Predators have a metal seeking vision mode allowing them to scan objects/the environment for metallic objects. We saw this in Predator 2 when city hunter scanned the toy pistol of a boy pointing a plastic uzi replica which he deemed to be not a real weapon by scanning it. This metal seeking vision mode is how the jungle hunter predator in the first Predator was able to see all the trip wires they put up, and was able to sneak into their heavy boobytrapped perimeter to steal Blaine's body. However, the Predator was unable to see the traps made with the vines afterwards.

Scar also had an Xray/Mri vision mode which he could use to detect the machine under the living tissue.

The hyper allow chassis is very tough but was destroyed my human weapins and materials, the alloys used by Predators to make their weapons are much stronger than steel. The joints seem to be the weakest parts of the terminators, I think the Predators shurikans and spear could be enough to do major damage, especially the spear. If that doesnt work he has a plasma caster and wrist nuke to fall back on. Arnold in T2 is one of my favorite characters, but I just don't think he will be able to deal with the stealth, agility, weaponry, and tactics of Scar.

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@fanatic said:

@juzacloud: Why do T-800's need to dodge when they can show off there durability by letting a man swing at him without damage?

Now Predators gonna blast the T-800 with shoulder canons? He should of done that to Arnold when he was a human.

T-1000 used surrounding objects to damage the T-800 because he couldn't shape shift into one of his own weapons to do it.

T-800 messed the T-1000 up pretty badly when one shot with the M-79 grenade blast. Show a predator surviving that?

If predator would of been able to beat Arnold as a human, then this topic would be more debatable for the pred,but T-800 wins to easily. All he has to do is roll around in Mudd to damage the preds vision and then the T-800 dances around him and punches his head off and turns the pred into a horribly damaged punching bag.

The difference between Dutch (Arnold) and T-800 is one knows how to dodge. And what makes you think that he has to swing anything first? Predator can blast him with his mini cannon and we KNOW T-800 won't even attempt to dodge. That will be his terrible mistake.

Predator has the combat tactics advantage and has fought all types of ancient creatures across the solar system. Huge dinosaur like creatures.

Predator survived 5 grenades point blank without any damage.

And your whole "He lost to a human" argument is beyond ridiculous. So did T-800. And T-800 would have lost to T-1000 if they were fighting 1vs1 with no distractions or Lava pit.

T-800 gets blasted and a spear right through the Eye

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@juzacloud: So it will be the T-800's mistake if the T-800 doesn't dodge? You are aware shoulder canons cause explosions? If a T-800 can survive truck explosions, grenade blast, hit and run over by a truck, something the Pred wouldn't survive, I don't see why the T-800 couldn't survive a shoulder canon blast, if a gas truck explodion can't, then the shoulder canon will just burn the T-800's flesh. No problem. Arnold as a human just had to roll around in Mudd. T-800 can very easily load his shotgun up with Mudd balls and shoot the predator in the eyes and blind him. Very easily. Plus you are aware shoulder canons are rechagable right? So even if the predator ko'd the T-800, he'd have to waite till his shoulder canon was recharged to use it again and the T-800 will most likely rise up before the predator can hit him again.

T-800's are known to disarm pretty good like he did to the bar tender. He can disarm the predators weapons and kill predator with it. Steal and hack all there tech.

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#24  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@horustheavenger said:

Terminator can't shoot what he can't see.

How can he not see when he has X-Ray and infared? There is a reason Kyle said to hide from a Terminator you need tons of background "noise" to hide your own movements.

@thedarkpaladin said:

@fanatic: Lol @ that logic. T-800 couldn't beat a woman and a man. Predator made sport out of most of Arnolds team.

By this logic, Terminator killed a whole department of cops easy, and Predator lost to a out of shape cop, so....

I guess since you have no real arguments though...

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@sirfizzwhizz: Unless you can show me T-800 dodging, predator takes this. He is mostly stationary.

-Once predator blast him with his mini cannon he'll see that he isn't human. Not to mention the damage T-800 will take will be severe.

-Predator has the agility and combat advantage. He could easily disarm T-800 from a distance. Better strength feats as well.

-Predator has a capture net that even a xenomorph struggle to get out of. That could be used as a setup.

T-1000 beatdown T-800 with a metal pipe that left him injured. Predator has an alien spear thats bigger than that pipe. Damage is MAXIMUM!

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- Yes. he is mostly stationary, except when he runs around all the time in the films.

- Predator can win via canon, but he is not using a big enough blast off the bat, and never opens a attack that way.

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Multiple Plasma from hunter Drones.

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T-800 tanks not one, but two grenades to the chest from a grenade launcher fine.

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From ground zero of the huge Propane truck explosion, T-800 rises unscathed.

That is also if T-800 does not find Pred first in search mode.

- Not really. At all. Predator has no strength feats to match what T-800 has done in films, and Predator is not as agile since T-800 can fight T-1000 and T-3000 fine.

- Capture net that will do no damage, and Terminator >>> Xeno in strength feats anyway. Unless you want to go EU in which case T-800 >>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno anyway lol.

- T-1000 was also able to morph through attack, heal any attack, and had a strength advatage over T-800. None of that applies here, but nice try to loa ball.

@fanatic: So what is the difference between the T-800 in the fist movie and the T-800 in the second? The only difference I can recall would be his reprogramming to protect John instead of killing him.

A lot of the T-800s have different feat, and every movie seem to show more and more punishment taking. The T-800 from the first film was very different from the same model in in the 4th film and 5th film in feats.

That is just how time works. The first movie is simply outdated to action of 2015 mate.

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#25  Edited By Thedarkpaladin

@sirfizzwhizz: And what's your argument? All you seem to be doing is whining about others opinions.

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@fanatic: The Plasma caster has been shown to be hot enough to melt through metal with ease, it blasted a clean hole through the hull of a Predator inter stellar ship. The difference is that Plasma is much hotter than an explosion, it will do severe damage to the T800 chassis which was destroyed by molten steel, which is much cooler than the Plasma.

If we compare molten steel to Plasma

Molten steel, MAX temperature: 2750 degrees Fahrenheit

Standard modern Plasma cutter torch used to cut metal by iron workers, auto technicians, and sheet metal workers: 30,000 degrees Fahrenheit

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#27  Edited By Thedarkpaladin

@sirfizzwhizz

A lot of the T-800s have different feat, and every movie seem to show more and more punishment taking. The T-800 from the first film was very different from the same model in in the 4th film and 5th film in feats.

That is just how time works. The first movie is simply outdated to action of 2015 mate.

A T-800 is a T-800. Show how the ones in the later movies are built any different.

Edit: nevermind. It looks like you were right about the T-800's in the later movies being superior.

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#28  Edited By Fanatic

@capfan85: it depends what type of metal these shoulder canons bust through. Metal is not just metal. It didn't bust through titanium which is what T-800's are made of. It busted through aluminum metal which is cheap metal.

The T-800 was put in a lake of moltein steel which is hotter than just one shot. T-800's have hydrogen fuel cells that would wipe out an army of preds all at once. T-800 can disarm them, steal there tech, and use it on em and dead predator it is. All the T-800 has to do is throw Mudd in its face

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@sirfizzwhizz: Predator always opens up with the mini cannon. They snipe on sight first lol and if you manage to get by a couple of those, then they'll switch up weapons.

I know the net doesn't do damage. Its meant for a distraction.

T-800 gets overwhelmed in attack exchanges with T-1000 and 3000. Only in grappling does he manage.

C'mon man, don't accuse me of lowballing. I don't do that at all. Misinformed or forgetful, but I don't lowball.

I haven't seen the most recent Terminator movie so my opinion could change. Outdated movies don't present their abilities well or what the directors were aiming for. The only thing I can see my opinion changing on is the H2H combat though.

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@thedarkpaladin: sounds like someone needs to watch the movies. If you think a T-800 is a T-800 you're painfully incorrect. If that was the case, then if Arnie can survive the T-X's plasma canon that couldnt even burn his entire flesh off, then the predators shoulder canons destroying a T-800 is very hard to believe.

Arnold was a T-850 in T3 not to much different than a T-800, just stronger, more upgraded armor.

T-800 in salvation, survived, moltein steel, tanked grenade blast and didn't move, survived being froze, but that T-800 was a prototype and was extremely more upgraded than the previous 800 series.

Again, watch the movies, T-800's always got upgraded at one point or another.

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@fanatic: Aren't they making a new Child's Play Movie? I seen the one that came out back in 2013. I'm asking because of your avatar. Their making a Jeeper's Creepers 3 as well.

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@juzacloud: I've been hearing for over a year they're making a sequal to curse of chucky according to what Don't Mancini said to fans on twitter, but its one of those we just have to waite and see. Just like they have a 6th and 7th TERMINATOR film written and will be releases back to back, part 6 on May 19th 2017 and part 7 June 29th 2018

Then they say the movies are on hold. Nobody really knows when ANY of these sequals get released.

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#33  Edited By Thedarkpaladin

@fanatic said:

@thedarkpaladin: sounds like someone needs to watch the movies. If you think a T-800 is a T-800 you're painfully incorrect. If that was the case, then if Arnie can survive the T-X's plasma canon that couldnt even burn his entire flesh off, then the predators shoulder canons destroying a T-800 is very hard to believe.

Arnold was a T-850 in T3 not to much different than a T-800, just stronger, more upgraded armor.

T-800 in salvation, survived, moltein steel, tanked grenade blast and didn't move, survived being froze, but that T-800 was a prototype and was extremely more upgraded than the previous 800 series.

Again, watch the movies, T-800's always got upgraded at one point or another.

Looks like you need to double check the op... The T-800 in the first and second movie were basically no different. Again, the only difference about them was the reprogramming of the T-800 in the second movie. What do feats in the later movies have to do with this version?

Sounds different to me, but then again, I haven't watched the third movie in a while since it was garbage. Either way, a T-850 isn't the model being used here.

Fair enough, I never watched Salvation so you might be right. Still has nothing to do with this T-800, though.

I'll watch them when I get the time, but can you show me proof of their upgrades?

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@thedarkpaladin: Well I only pointed out these logics to you so you don't get completly confused.

I see a difference between the T-800 and T2, the T-800 in T2 was a series 800 version 2.4. He seemed a lot weaker than the original T-800 from the first one. The T-800 from T2 never got up from a truck explosion, never survived falling off a motorcycle going 67 miles and hours, never got hit and run over by a truck, never survived any of what the original T-800 managed to do. The original T-800 just seemed more brutal, deadly and evil. The only thing the T-800 from part 2 did was he was able to take out a swat team of cops in a gun fight and walked away on foot. But, unlike Predator, he lost to a tired, wore down cop.

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@thedarkpaladin: Here is the T-850

terminator.wikia.com/wiki/T-850_(Rise_of_the_Machines)

Here is the T-800 from T2

terminator.wikia.com/wiki/T-800_(Terminator_2:_Judgment_Day)

Here is the T-800 from T4

http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/T-800_(Terminator_Salvation)

Here is the origonal T-800 from T1

http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/T-800_(The_Terminator)

Ever movie for the most part Arnold was slightly different.

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@fanatic said:

@thedarkpaladin: Well I only pointed out these logics to you so you don't get completly confused.

I see a difference between the T-800 and T2, the T-800 in T2 was a series 800 version 2.4. He seemed a lot weaker than the original T-800 from the first one. The T-800 from T2 never got up from a truck explosion, never survived falling off a motorcycle going 67 miles and hours, never got hit and run over by a truck, never survived any of what the original T-800 managed to do. The original T-800 just seemed more brutal, deadly and evil. The only thing the T-800 from part 2 did was he was able to take out a swat team of cops in a gun fight and walked away on foot. But, unlike Predator, he lost to a tired, wore down cop.

I appreciate you letting me know, but I'm still curious to see some proof that a T-800 in the later films is made any different. Better feats are cool and all, but it doesn't mean that they were built any differently. I know the T-850 is an upgrade to the T-800, though.

Like I said, better showings don't mean that the two are built any different other than their personality. Like I pointed out already the T-800 in T2 was programed a bit different but it doesn't mean that the material their body's were built out of was any different. Did you mean to say that Predator lost to a tired worn-down cop?

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@thedarkpaladin: look at my above posts, I posted some wiki's about the info on each 800/850 model. Here is Arnold from the new, previous movie that just came out..

terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian

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@fanatic said:

@thedarkpaladin: look at my above posts, I posted some wiki's about the info on each 800/850 model. Here is Arnold from the new, previous movie that just came out..

terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian

Thanks for the links. It does seem like the T-800 from the first and second films are identical in strength, though. Only difference lies in the capacity to understand human emotions.

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#39  Edited By Fanatic

@thedarkpaladin: That is correct. In T2 the T-800 asks John why people cry and at the end when John cries and begs him not to kill himself in the lake of hot steel, the T-800 understood then, why people cry. Same was shown in Terminator Genisys when the T-800 asked Kyle " Protect my Sarah " as he goes through the field generator to kill John, pops showed true emotions there.

Those Evil T-800's don't show any emotions. No fear, no pityy. Remorce..etc.. All they do is do what they're programmed to do without caring and that's it.

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#40  Edited By Wolfrazer

Given the timelines change in pretty much all the T movies, there should be notable differences big or small between the Terminator models.

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@fanatic said:

@thedarkpaladin: That is correct. In T2 the T-800 asks John why people cry and at the end when John cries and begs him not to kill himself in the lake of hot steel, the T-800 understood then, why people cry. Same was shown in Terminator Genisys when the T-800 asked Kyle " Protect my Sarah " as he goes through the field generator to kill John, pops showed true emotions there.

Those Evil T-800's don't shoe any emotions. No fear, no pityy. Remorce..etc..

Yeah, though it did appear that he needed to be taught these emotions in order for him to really understand them. I remeber at the beginning of the film, it seemed like he acted sort of similar to the one from the first movie as he didn't seem to mind Killing the two guys that John was talking bad about.

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@thedarkpaladin: Correct. He knew his mission was to protect john, but he had to be coached not to kill people. I guess the guys who got tossed around and stabbed in the bar were lucky they didn't die. But after John coaches him not to kill people, the T-800 has further shot people, but made sure he shot em in a spot where they wouldnt bleed to death.

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@thedarkpaladin: Correct. He knew his mission was to protect john, but he had to be coached not to kill people. I guess the guys who got tossed around and stabbed in the bar were lucky they didn't die. But after John coaches him not to kill people, the T-800 has further shot people, but made sure he shot em in a spot where they wouldnt bleed to death.

Exactly. That's why he made sure not to kill any of the Police in and around the Cyberdine bulding.

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#44  Edited By myerlanski

Im going with the Predator...i think he has the right weapons to take down terminator with the plasma rifle from long range...maybe even his throwing weapons....plasma rifles seemed to do just fine in the films against t-800

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@myerlanski: yeah could be true. The T-X's plasma canon did ko the T-850. Its unknown how badly it would damage a T-800. I suppose it depends if the Predator hits him first or if terminator hits the pred first with grenade launcher, shotgun or smears mud all over the predator and takes advantage there.

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#46  Edited By AdmiralLogic

As a fan and debator for both, LOL at the people saying this...

@thedarkpaladin said:

Predator stomps. Too many abilities that will overwhelm the T-800.

or this...

@juzacloud said:
@kyrees said:
@juzacloud said:

What's stopping predator from cleaving through T-800 with his throwing glave?

or shooting that shoulder cannon thingy ?

yup.

lol.

Anyway, T-800s are made of Hyper Allow which tank more punishment than Preds claws or staff can do. The Shoulder canon by feats would likely damage a T-800 badly, but then so would a grenade launcher do the same to Pred. Here is some basic advatages of both.

T-800

  • Various sensors in X-Ray, Infrared, and HVG. This in turn really allows no stealth advantage for Predator.
  • Strength wise T-800 is stronger, and face way stronger beings than predator ever has.
  • Skill wise T-800 programming has shown time and again to adapt and face foes with more unique abilities, and a degree of martial skill.
  • Durability, T-800 is simply more durable. Not a discussion. Only the use of preds best weapons off the bat will end him.
  • Living Tissue. This is a neat ace in the hole against predator who will not understand that under the flesh is not a normal man, but a harden battle machine, and limiting all out attacks likely off the bat till too late.
  • Almost all the weapon in T-800 arsenal will harm Predator, however only a hand ful of preds own gear will do anything worthwhile to T-800.
  • Accuracy, T-800 is simply more accurate.

Predator

  • Various sensor modes to track T-800 as well.
  • Better weapons which is mainly due only to the Plasma canon.
  • Pretty durable, at least enough to not drop easily to the lower caliber weapons of T-800 gear loadout.

That is really it. Speed wise they are similar, stealth is not a factor, and both have the ability to end the other at range. Its a closer fight favoring T-800 honestly overall in range or close combat. The blades weapons will be next to useless on Arny, and the living tissue in a random battle will throw Predator off anyway.

Excellent!

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#47  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@juzacloud:

Predator always opens up with the mini cannon. They snipe on sight first lol and if you manage to get by a couple of those, then they'll switch up weapons.

Not at all true. I have the Comics and Movies, though we are talking Movies here mostly. They just as much open with Claws, Spears, Staff, ect. Hell in predator 1 Pred only use his canon to stealth kill one guy, and it was a low low low caliber shot compared to the higher power shots mate. Second movie... he never use that damn canon as a opening attack. Predators (Movie 3) show much the same, except they all missed terribly when they did fire lol.

I know the net doesn't do damage. Its meant for a distraction.

Not a good one considering its a close range weapon (furthest range is like 20-30 feet), and T-800 can rip through with movement alone.

T-800 gets overwhelmed in attack exchanges with T-1000 and 3000. Only in grappling does he manage.

Now he does not. He got many attacks and hits in on both of them as they did him. He fought extensive fights against foes that would easy kill predator in Close Combat lol. Why bring them up as a point for Pred is beyond me, its proof to T-800s ability in close combat.

C'mon man, don't accuse me of lowballing. I don't do that at all. Misinformed or forgetful, but I don't lowball.

Alright, then you forgetting or misinformed :)

I haven't seen the most recent Terminator movie so my opinion could change. Outdated movies don't present their abilities well or what the directors were aiming for. The only thing I can see my opinion changing on is the H2H combat though.

Thats fine. I think this fight will rarely get close combat considering both have range weapons, and both have advance scanners.

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Given the timelines change in pretty much all the T movies, there should be notable differences big or small between the Terminator models.

True, it was a good logical way of looking at it since all exist in officially different realities/outcomes.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Well it is only logical, I mean it's blatantly shown in T3 where you have the T-850 and the T-X and the military having bought and funded Skynet and having the T-1 and Hunter Killers(smaller versions) so early. Compared to T2 where Skynet was built by Cyberdyne Systems but from the old parts of the old T-800 from the first movie, so there we have the 800 in T2 knowing about emotions and the like and of course the T-1000.

Whereas in T1, the biggest threats were the 600/800s.

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@admirallogic: all of most what was said seems accurate...but i don't agree with the living tissue being an advantage...clearly the predators have xray sight technology and has familiarize theirselves with human anatomy...to the point they knew that slim was pregnant in part 2, the scene when one looked arnold over to see if he was worthy or whatever..the scene when another looked over a dude to see a alien was in his body...Im sure they know the differences from bone and metal and gyros versus joints...easily...