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#1  Edited By fiodestromus
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Luke gets one lightsaber and a plasma pistol

Super skrull gets a Lightsaber also

Start fifty feet away

fight takes place in Clover field aftermath

No Illusions,or TP

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Skywalker?

Cage?

Valentine?

Which Luke are you talking about

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Super Skrull he goes super Nova, speed blitzes or uses the old Sue expanding bubble in the brain trick

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Super Skrull should take this pretty easily tbh.

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Luke should still win he completely outclasses him in speed, and his TK is enough to do major damage to Superskrull.

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Luke should still win he completely outclasses him in speed, and his TK is enough to do major damage to Superskrull.

How?

Yeah, he's faster, but Super Skrull can nuke a city block with one attack.

As for his TK doing damage, Super Skrull is right around the Class 100 range, and also has TK of his own (pseudo TK via Sue Storm's power). He's also got enough durable to tank a city busting attack without much damage to his person.

Speed only means so much when you lack the ability to damage an opponent.

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#8  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

Gotta go with Luke for speed and TK advantages. Question though, how often does any Super Skrull do the bubble in your head trick compared to just brawling with molten fists?

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#9  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@floopay:

Yeah, he's faster, but Super Skrull can nuke a city block with one attack.

Luke shields could potentially protect him from Super Skrulls attack.

As for his TK doing damage, Super Skrull is right around the Class 100 range, and also has TK of his own (pseudo TK via Sue Storm's power)

Luke's has been able to crush a fortress that reached the clouds and has also used his TK to manipulate a black hole,that put his TK in the million ton range. There is also a possibility Luke could damage the Skrull with his lightsaber,contrary to popular belief a Lightsaber does not cut through things with heat,it is just one of it's many energy outputs.

Speed only means so much when you lack the ability to damage an opponent.

Luke can hurt him,via TK and maybe with his lightsaber. He could possibly BFR him via Fold Space.

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@floopay:

Yeah, he's faster, but Super Skrull can nuke a city block with one attack.

Luke shields could potentially protect him from Super Skrulls attack.

As for his TK doing damage, Super Skrull is right around the Class 100 range, and also has TK of his own (pseudo TK via Sue Storm's power)

Luke's has been able to crush a fortress that reached the clouds and has also used his TK to manipulate a black hole,that put his TK in the million ton range. There is also a possibility Luke could damage the Skrull with his lightsaber,contrary to popular belief a Lightsaber does not cut through things with heat,it is just one of it's many energy outputs.

Speed only means so much when you lack the ability to damage an opponent.

Luke can hurt him,via TK and maybe with his lightsaber.

And what's his resistance to fire? One nova from Super Skrull would incinerate him...

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#11  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@floopay: Well Luke has been able to make shields enabling him to walk on magma IIRC and I know this is A>B>C> logic but Starkiller has been able to make a Force Barrier that was withstanding heat that rivaled stars. Luke could should be able to replicate this feat............ then again disregard what I said, I hate A>B>C> logic lol.

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Imo this is a very close call, either one could KO the other.

In the end it could be just a case of durability/mental strengh & who out lasts the other & imo Luke should be the one with the more focused/Mental stability to go that extra mile.

Luke ftw 6/10

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#14  Edited By robertloucksjr

Super Skrull. He can take strikes that get through, Luke cannot. He can also fly at supersonic speeds which is a huge advantage.

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#15 juiceboks  Moderator

Super Skrull. He can take strikes that get through, Luke cannot. He can also fly at supersonic speeds which is a huge advantage.

Luke can move at sub light speeds. That's a bigger advantage.

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#16  Edited By Chaos Prime

I gather this is EU Luke in this encounter & not Movie Luke?

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#17  Edited By Rainx20

Luke will kill the super skrull. Luke has too many force powers that he can use to beat it. Luke could simply bash him around using TK or damage him with his saber then finish him with shatter points. Luke also has electric judgement that one shots very powerful enemies like Yuuzhan vong slayers.

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#18  Edited By reikai

Super-Skrull is on par with a Herald of Galactus. And a blast from him was actually used to revive Firelord from a near death state during the Annihilation events. K'lrrt easily takes this. He can, just as stated earlier, create an invisible force bubble in Luke's brain and kill him. Psylocke once did the same to Dark Xavier (alternate universe version) and caused him to stroke to death.

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this one is hard... luke wins if he fights smart and doesn't hold back

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@dccomicsrule2011: skrulls nova is a lot hotter than a star. He should be able to burn on torchs level, and that's super nova

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Luke wins in a close fight.

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@hyperviper97: Yeah..... I lost interest in this battle a long time ago.

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#23  Edited By jojjimbo

I say Super Skrull.

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#24  Edited By Bones309

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Luke will kill the super skrull. Luke has too many force powers that he can use to beat it. Luke could simply bash him around using TK or damage him with his saber then finish him with shatter points. Luke also has electric judgement that one shots very powerful enemies like Yuuzhan vong slayers.

Putting Luke in a force bubble would make pretty much all of his powers useless. Really I think Luke would have trouble hurting the Super Skrull. Can a light saber effect a guy who can burn at nova levels? All SS needs to do is go nova and it's over. Both these two have power but the SS's durability and force field make this a simple matter of who'll out last the other and that's the Super Skrull.

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#25  Edited By Rainx20

@bones309: Putting Luke in a force bubble won't do anything to limiting Luke's power. Going Nova isn't going to do jack shit to Luke, the man walked on Lava before and managed to kill Abeloth who's sheer power was enough to cause buildings from far away to melt to ground and make everyone in the vicinity to implode or be torn to pieces. Luke has strong force shields that are able to absorb blasts from a AT-AT( a feat he achieved far before his prime) Luke's speed is near relativistic and he can be hardly perceived by people who view the world in slow motion. Luke outclasses the super skrull in speed. Luke's TK strength alone is enough to hold back the Skrull and immobilize him. Luke manipulated the mass of a black whole through TK. I can keep going on about what Luke has that will be enough to take the SS, but for the sake of my time their is enough already.

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No one can mess with the force

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@rainx20 said:

@bones309: Putting Luke in a force bubble won't do anything to limiting Luke's power. Going Nova isn't going to do jack shit to Luke, the man walked on Lava before and managed to kill Abeloth who's sheer power was enough to cause buildings from far away to melt to ground and make everyone in the vicinity to implode or be torn to pieces. Luke has strong force shields that are able to absorb blasts from a AT-AT( a feat he achieved far before his prime) Luke's speed is near relativistic and he can be hardly perceived by people who view the world in slow motion. Luke outclasses the super skrull in speed. Luke's TK strength alone is enough to hold back the Skrull and immobilize him. Luke manipulated the mass of a black whole through TK. I can keep going on about what Luke has that will be enough to take the SS, but for the sake of my time their is enough already.

The force field blocks TK and pretty much all mentally controlled attacks.

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#28  Edited By Rainx20

No guarantee it will stop the force for sure. But if that maybe the case, their wont be anything stopping Fold space or force choke. Anyways SS isn't going to be able to match Luke's speed from the get go.

*edit* and you said pretty much all mental attacks. Well Luke's TP is pretty extreme, it is above Sidious's and he manipulated the minds of an entire planet effortlessly. If shields can't completely stop TP, Luke has this even easier.

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Luke also has precog. Luke can just stop ss from moving or using any of his powers. he can process ans use his force powers in nanoseconds.

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@rainx20 said:

No guarantee it will stop the force for sure. But if that maybe the case, their wont be anything stopping Fold space or force choke. Anyways SS isn't going to be able to match Luke's speed from the get go.

*edit* and you said pretty much all mental attacks. Well Luke's TP is pretty extreme, it is above Sidious's and he manipulated the minds of an entire planet effortlessly. If shields can't completely stop TP, Luke has this even easier.

What good would force choking do to a guy who can fight in a the vacuum of space with ease and also has a neck that can stretch across a planet? Really, Luke's heat related feats are nothing compared to a nova blast. Lava? buildings melting? You do understand that nova heat would turn those things into a gas before the brain could even realize what happened? Really the SS has serious durability. Between his force field, Thing superior durably, and Mr Fantastic superior elasticity…he's a beast. All he needs to do is put a force bubble in Luke's brain…game over. Again, both have a lot of powers…but the Super Skrull can take more. Can Luke survive without oxygen? Can he take internal attacks?

Sue Storm, who's FF is weaker has blocked Sersi and Jean Grey's powers. Sersi has read the minds of the planet and can turn a person to dust with a thought.

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@bones309: yeah that's not going to happen. Luke Speed > SS. And btw force choke will annihilate him. Luke's TK is strong enough to manipulate black holes. good game.

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Not sure why people love Force Choke so much. Not only is Luke with morals on, but Choke is not one of the most powerful applications of TK at all.

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EU Luke wins via speedblitz.

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Luke chops up Super Skrull in the blink of an eye, or just BFR him. GG

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@rainx20 said:

@bones309: yeah that's not going to happen. Luke Speed > SS. And btw force choke will annihilate him. Luke's TK is strong enough to manipulate black holes. good game.

Is that a showing of strength to manipulate a black hole? Or is it energy manipulation? The SS's force field again blocks TK, so I don't see it being that simple. He can also quickly snake his neck out Luke's grip. Really, snapping his neck won't really work, nor will cutting off his air supply. So unless he instantly try to cut his head off….he's quickly going to face a counter attack. I can see speed being an issue but an omnidirectional nova blast and protection with his ff can help to counter that. Even if he can take the heat, what is he going to breath? Super Skrull can take blasts from the Silver Surfer, I just see his durability being high enough combined with his other powers to give him the win.

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@bones309: Strength he forced it to collapse on itself. Anyway Luke's speed and arsenal of force powers take this. He can use fold space to win, TP, or TK ( no reason why the force wouldn't work), emerald lightening or force shatterpoints. SS isn't winning.

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#37  Edited By Rainx20

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Not sure why people love Force Choke so much. Not only is Luke with morals on, but Choke is not one of the most powerful applications of TK at all.

correct, Luke can emit force blasts so powerful they manifest a golden flames.

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Tough call.

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#39  Edited By comic_book_fan

super skrull.

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@rainx20 said:

@bones309: Strength he forced it to collapse on itself. Anyway Luke's speed and arsenal of force powers take this. He can use fold space to win, TP, or TK ( no reason why the force wouldn't work), emerald lightening or force shatterpoints. SS isn't winning.

How is that strength? He manipulated a gravitational field. Seems like energy manipulation to me. If he did it with his bare hands or something, I might see that but he used the Force. Again, the Super Skrull's force field blocks mental powers. From mater manipulation to TP to TK to etc. Really, just about everything you mentioned the Silver Surfer can do and the Super Skrull has taken him on in space. You still haven't answered what Luke's gonna do when there's no more oxygen? Something the Super Skrull can make an issue of in seconds? That's if Luke can even survive the nova blast. Both these two have great powers, the Super Skrull just seems more likely to survive Luke's attacks than vise versa.

While these are old feats by the Fantastic Four…the Super Skrull not only has their powers but to a greater level than they do.

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@bones309: If your having trouble understanding how manipulating the mass of a black hole is not a feat of TK strength I have no time to discuss with you. Oxygen is not a problem. Jedi have survived being in open space before. Luke has survived in planets before where the environment was unlivable, that argument is irreverent. Luke can react faster than seconds Luke wins.

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@bones309: If your having trouble understanding how manipulating the mass of a black hole is not a feat of TK strength I have no time to discuss with you. Oxygen is not a problem. Jedi have survived being in open space before. Luke has survived in planets before where the environment was unlivable, that argument is irreverent. Luke can react faster than seconds Luke wins.

A black hole is energy…manipulating it is manipulating energy. Can you show Luke not needing to breath? Jedi are a mix of different species that likely have different biological needs. Reaction speed only gets you so far if the Super Skrull pretty much goes off like a living nuke. The Super Skrull's durability is enough to take hit's from Luke long enough to put up his force field, go nova, or simply put a force bubble in Luke's brain.

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@bones309:

A black hole is energy…manipulating it is manipulating energy.

And you have now become irrelevant to me.

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Super-Skrull takes this one. Luke lacks the durability to block even SS's weakest of attacks. On the other hand, SS's shields can tank almost anything Luke throws at him; whatever's left, SS has enough durability on himself to shrug off.

Once again, this isn't a Flash Fanboy page. Speed isn't everything, especially when the fast one isn't much faster and has nothing in other categories.

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@thetruthiii: LOL Luke lacks durability to tank any of SS attack. Luke is immensely faster.

Learn a little about Luke before speaking for his abilities. Luke has many attacks that are capable of defeating the SS. Their isn't anything proving Luke's Saber won't be able to hurt SS in the first place, Luke can swing his lightsaber so fast that powerful force sensitives who can perceive the world in slow motion and they can't depict his movements other than green blurs because he is so fast. I am not seeing SS force field abilities stopping Luke's TP, that being the case SS is done from the get go. SS isn't going to be able to do anything against emerald lightening(this power has one shot killed powerful beings) SS can't do anything to stop fold space and from getting BFR or a lightsaber stuck in his head while he is hiding behind a shield. I can keep going on things that Luke can do that SS can't take. But for Luke's durability, He can literally absorb blasts from AT-At like nothing, he has healing trances, he can literally become an immovable object that not even the pull of a black hole can move him when he immerses himself with the force. And finally Luke will see SS attacks coming before they even happen. Luke has force precognition and will react faster. Luke is the one who takes this.

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I love Super Skrull, but hate Super Skrull threads. Lol.

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#47  Edited By TheTruthIII

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@thetruthiii: LOL Luke lacks durability to tank any of SS attack. Luke is immensely faster.

Learn a little about Luke before speaking for his abilities.

I would advise you to do the same with Super Skrull

Luke has many attacks that are capable of defeating the SS. Their isn't anything proving Luke's Saber won't be able to hurt SS in the first place,

On the other hand, Luke has no feats that prove his lightsaber can damage the Super-Skrull, but you don't see me using that against you. These guys are from different universes, so you can't possibly ask for proof like that. SS's are modeled after that of the Invisible Woman's, who has shown, countless times, to be able to block energy-based attacks. And guess what a lightsaber is? Energy.

Plus, they're starting 50 feet away. That's well enough time for SS to put up his shields, unless Luke throws his lightsaber (which would be suicide)

Luke can swing his lightsaber so fast that powerful force sensitives who can perceive the world in slow motion and they can't depict his movements other than green blurs because he is so fast.

I don't disagree that Luke is indeed faster. However, that means little if he doesn't have the ability to get past SS's shields.

I am not seeing SS force field abilities stopping Luke's TP, that being the case SS is done from the get go.

I'm not even gonna address this one. Come back after you've read the OP.

SS isn't going to be able to do anything against emerald lightening(this power has one shot killed powerful beings)

Again, that's another energy-based attack. His shields could take care of it, or he could simply fly to a safe distance.

SS can't do anything to stop fold space and from getting BFR or a lightsaber stuck in his head while he is hiding behind a shield. I can keep going on things that Luke can do that SS can't take. But for Luke's durability, He can literally absorb blasts from AT-At like nothing, he has healing trances, he can literally become an immovable object that not even the pull of a black hole can move him when he immerses himself with the force. And finally Luke will see SS attacks coming before they even happen. Luke has force precognition and will react faster. Luke is the one who takes this.

Absorbing blasts from an AT-AT is not the same thing as taking on the Super-Skrull; SS can just incinerate with a fire blast, beat him to death, put a bubble in his brain, deprive him of his oxygen, etc etc. Unmovable is not equivalent to invincible; SS could kill him without even attempting to move him. You say Luke can BFR Super-Skrull. What do you mean? Is he just going to grab SS by the collar and chuck him into the horizon? Even if he could, it wouldn't be considered a win, as SS would just fly back and murder Luke in a rage. Nah, if any BFR happens, it's going to be SS trapping him in a forcefield and sending him off to space. Lastly, precognition means little if SS just blows up the city by going Nova.

So, no, Luke is NOT the one who takes this. SS is.

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If its movie luke<SS, if its EU Grand Jedi Master Luke>SS, not only is his TK off the scale he can also use force lightning, and his lightsaber would do considerable damage to super skrull.

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@thetruthiii: hahaha, buddy precognition means everything! Luke can react within nano seconds and can see into the future. That is a huge edge. And what in god's name makes you think the Super Skrull is going to be able to get his hands on Luke? That will not happen. Lightsaber attacks will be able to harm the SS if they are not blocked by shields that is common sense. Luke was able to cut through things like cortosis which was supposedly impenetrable to lightsabers because they caused them to short circuit. Your argument about oxygen is irrelevant, Like rain said Luke and other jedi have survived in environments where the air lethal or unlivable. Going Nova isn't going to do a thing, Luke's shields will sustain it. Luke was able to defeat Abeloth who could do the same thing, Abeloth was able to make an entire city melt to the ground just by her sheer power.

Sorry man but I don't see SS wining, I will put it in bold like you have.. LUKE WINS!

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Until Disney sorts out which parts of EU Star Wars will be canon, and which will be considered fan-fic, SuperSkrull ragestomps.