Seven is sent to stop him, Juggernaut is pissed at them for bothering him and decides to kill them. Starts in a street, 20 meters apart, no knowledge.
The Seven vs Juggernaut
Homelander statues, and burns his eyes out.
Homelander can just hoover out of reach and laser him nonstop till he eventually turns to toast. Or pick him up and BFR.
And depends on whether Jug's helmet is electricity-proof or not, Stormfront can potentially fry his brain too from safe distance.
Stalemate with A-train.
The rest get killed.
The 7 of them together ROFLstomp. I believe Homelander could throw hands with FOX Juggy in CQC, even without blitzing. With access to his speed he likely solos.
@nwname: btw, does anyone know how much force/energy A-Train has generated when he instantly liquified Hugie's gf in S1?
@limitless82: Should be about 3.5 MJ energy, 12 MN/1200 ton impact force.
@limitless82: Should be about 3.5 MJ energy, 12 MN/1200 ton impact force.
Sounds impressive consider he done that accidentally and ever so casually. I suppose if A-train blitzes Juggy with such force repeatedly and avoid getting tagged by him, A-train could wear him down and KO him eventually.
What's to stop Juggernaut from leap jumping at Homelander off the bat? I think the seven win but I don't think Homelander can stop him by himself. Juggernaut's durability is more than enough to tank his eye lasers.
@limitless82: I assumed he wasat full speed or close since he was high on compound V during it. Its decent but instead if colliding with a soft human body bullrushing Juggernaut would likely hurn A-train more.
@crabbyapple said:@subline said: Homelander statues, and burns his eyes out.
He already got stabbed in the eye, didn't seem to slow him down and i think he regenerated.
HAHAHAHAAH homelander is street level
@limitless82: Should be about 3.5 MJ energy, 12 MN/1200 ton impact force.
Sounds impressive consider he done that accidentally and ever so casually. I suppose if A-train blitzes Juggy with such force repeatedly and avoid getting tagged by him, A-train could wear him down and KO him eventually.
Kinetic Energy = 1/2m(v²)
- Weight = 87kg
- Velocity = 371 m/s
- Kinetic Energy = 5,987,380 J, about 6 Megajoules
The weight is from the actor.
The velocity I got from his race against Shockwave - I doubt he was going slower during a race than on a sidewalk.
So the initial calc wasn't too far off, but to get 1,200 tons he'd have to be accelerating at 138,000 m/s². That seems really iffy to me, doesn't seem to match up with what we see, et cetera.
But regardless, we have some legitimate striking feats for him so just use those (feats > calcs anyway). He can bust through concrete and paste regular people. Not Juggy's level though, but speed and allies certainly help.
@limitless82: Should be about 3.5 MJ energy, 12 MN/1200 ton impact force.
Sounds impressive consider he done that accidentally and ever so casually. I suppose if A-train blitzes Juggy with such force repeatedly and avoid getting tagged by him, A-train could wear him down and KO him eventually.
Kinetic Energy = 1/2m(v²)
- Weight = 87kg
- Velocity = 371 m/s
- Kinetic Energy = 5,987,380 J, about 6 Megajoules
The weight is from the actor.
The velocity I got from his race against Shockwave - I doubt he was going slower during a race than on a sidewalk.
So the initial calc wasn't too far off, but to get 1,200 tons he'd have to be accelerating at 138,000 m/s². That seems really iffy to me, doesn't seem to match up with what we see, et cetera.
But regardless, we have some legitimate striking feats for him so just use those (feats > calcs anyway). He can bust through concrete and paste regular people. Not Juggy's level though, but speed and allies certainly help.
I did a rough estimate before, still i dont usually give completely random numbers, for a more detailed calc;
The canon weight of A-train is 79 kg not 87. You got the full kinetic energy but during an impact velocity doesnt go down to 0 m/s (for most cases ofc). My best estimate for Robin's mass is 55 kg (actor weight). I used 371 m/s too. 371x79 = 29.309, 29.309 / (79+55) = 219. So after the impact the velocity falls down to 219 m/s due to momentum exchange. KE A-train lost comes out at [(371^2 * 79) - (219^2 * 55)]/2 = 3 542 360 J or 3.5 MJ. He is left 1.9 MJ which he himself needs to stop in the next dozen meters after he realized he pulverized someone. Acceleration is indeed about that fast. Assuming the body width of Robin at 30 cm or 0.3m; A-train average velocity during impact = (371+219)/2 = 295 m/s. Impact duration = 30 cm distance with 295 m/s average speed gives roughly 0.001s. Velocity change = 152 m/s. 152/0.001 = 152 000 m/s^2 acceleration. 152 000 x 79 = 12 meganewtons or about 1200 tons.
Wdym feats > calcs? Calcs ARE feats, put in numbers, they are not seperate things unrelated to feats (unless the calc is loaded with assumptions which unfortunately is mostly the case in vs debating forums). And sure, this feat falls short of Matching Juggernaut's bridge punch.
A shame to put such an absolute badass against those embarrassing real-life representations, WildStorm's Comics are pretty decent but just unfair when it comes to the production but most importantly the acting performances in this series, as an exception Homelander, Antony Starr is a decent actor, while I liked Black Noir a lot in the comics, however, our lovely psychopathic Homelander alone destroys Juggernaut.
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