The Royal Guards (HxH) vs The Sound 4 (Naruto)

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Neferpitou, Shaiapouf, and Menthuthuyoupi
Neferpitou, Shaiapouf, and Menthuthuyoupi

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Jirobo, Sakon and Ukon, Tayuya, and Kidomaru
Jirobo, Sakon and Ukon, Tayuya, and Kidomaru

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  • In Character, but Serious
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Meruem's Palace
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Royal guards i reckon

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I believe the royal guards would win this low-mid diff

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any of the Royal guards can solo.

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Sound 4 should take this with some difficulties, thanks to Tayuya's genjutsu.

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Any RG solos. Sound 4 can't put them down

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Sound 4 should blitz and stomp

Also, Genjutsu GG

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#12  Edited By Raziel2014

@thousandsteps said:

Sound 4 should take this with some difficulties, thanks to Tayuya's genjutsu.

shikamaru broke via just pain, meaning if the royal guards are attacked and actually injured by some miracle it would auto break assuming it even works to start with

genjutsu does not equal auto win is not even a cheap nor hax ability.

the stat difference between them is completely massive, zazan who is weaker than any of the royal guard could tank a Nen powered Superhuman sword strike from Feitan wh o ranks 5th in Physical strength without a scratch you think S4 are gonna do any better.

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Honestly, Sound 4 are far too strong, The RGs can match them in certain regards, like Pitou with speed and Youpi with power, but it's overwhelming.

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@raziel2014: Jirobo in his V2 curse mark form rivals Youpi in strength, though honestly he could be argued at being above him. He also happens to be the weakest of the group. Speed wise they are also operating at HS speeds, so speed is no issue. They are also outnumered, and have no answer to Genjutsu.

Pouf is the biggest threat here, but in the end S4 takes it with difficulties, provided they start in V2 forms.

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Royal guards take it. Pitou is massively above hypersonic and should be able to take out at most one of the sound 4 before they can even react (most likely Jirobo). They can also tank absurd amounts of damage as shown by pitou tanking a full on tail blow from meruem which can blow off the heads of other lesser chimera ants and youpi being unfazed by killua's lightning. Sound 4 have nothing in terms of damage output to really even injure the guards (save for the kidomaru's arrow which I don't see hitting any of the guards unless they stand perfectly still). Pouf has his own form of genjutsu in the form of scales that can spread far and would most likely be unnoticed by the sound 4. Tayuya's genjutsu is an issue but it has been shown that pain can break it. So even if they get caught, any damage they use to capitalize on it will break them out and lead the guards to be more wary about the sound she produces.

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Sound 4 has far better feats.

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pitou blitz

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@spinnenhonig:

If the calcs I've seen are correct only Post mortem Pitou is hypersonic (probably not MHS) and alive Pitou was swiped away by a Punch of old Netero's Bodhisattva which are (I think) only low supersonic. I do agree that the Royal Guards are superior in most aspects, but the speed difference might be too much for that to matter (if the supposed combat speeds I've seen here for Naruto characters are correct, although I don't know much about that)

For information purposes, Pitou's lunge against Kite is hypersonic due to the massive distance and the timeframe. Netero's punches don't cap at low supersonic. Even base Killua has hypersonic feats, Netero's attacks can statue Meruem and slap away Pitou mid lunge. All of the Royal Guards are at least baseline hypersonic.

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#22  Edited By JoshTaku

@defiant_will said:

@spinnenhonig:

If the calcs I've seen are correct only Post mortem Pitou is hypersonic (probably not MHS) and alive Pitou was swiped away by a Punch of old Netero's Bodhisattva which are (I think) only low supersonic. I do agree that the Royal Guards are superior in most aspects, but the speed difference might be too much for that to matter (if the supposed combat speeds I've seen here for Naruto characters are correct, although I don't know much about that)

For information purposes, Pitou's lunge against Kite is hypersonic due to the massive distance and the timeframe. Netero's punches don't cap at low supersonic. Even base Killua has hypersonic feats, Netero's attacks can statue Meruem and slap away Pitou mid lunge. All of the Royal Guards are at least baseline hypersonic.

Exactly. Netero's speed is being downplayed consistently when in reality he is one of the fastest, if not fastest, in the series. Pitou's lunge puts her comfortably at hypersonic.

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Youpi solos. Don't @ me. The rage cannon is capable of vaporizing massive craters into the ground. And he has enough versatility with his transformations, being able to make blades and skewers out of his body. He should be fast enough too. At least in terms of reaction speed.

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I think the Royal guards take this their all at relatively the same speed, Youpi is far more destructive then anything the four can dish out and Pouf could use his scales and clones to escape any trap or disapper if needed. If Pitou does die her nen will make all of her skills even more incredibly for a powerful late game blitz.

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#26  Edited By Kinginrags

I completely forgot about Pouf. He can just hypnotize them with his wing scales. Making this even more one-sided. Especially if they don't have knowledge. Even if somehow, by some miracle the RGs lose, nen after death seals the deal resulting in a draw. So it's either draw or Royal Guards no doubt. Not to mention Spiritual message for strategy purposes.

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Royal guards quite easily. A more fair fight would be the shadow beasts vs the sound 4

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The RG low mid diff

Add Kimimaro and it becomes more interesting

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Sound 4 should blitz and stomp

Also, Genjutsu GG

Curious what do you have sound four speed at in base mode?

Below Lee weightless?

Say if we say since they did not do too bad against Sasuke they in base have speed some what close to weightless Lee and that is before 10x curse mark boost the difference is massive.

mach 50 or above sakon is disgusting.

And this doesn't look good either when you consider the fact hunter x hunter godtier thought punching at the speed of sound is impressive. Not to downplay, but that is a fact. Contrast that up against the ninja world where at no point is sound speed an actual meta if you follow authors intent, databook, feats, etc... anywhere in Naruto's universe.

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Sound four win with speed advantage and genjutsu. They also don't have anything for Ukon who can take over bodies.

HxH is a slow verse at least equalize speed for them to win

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Tayuya gives her team the win.

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What about a healthy Kimimaro?

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@defiant_will: sound 4 should easily scale above the royal guard and are way faster, though RG have amazing abilities that can solo, PR Meruem himself just caps at low Akatsuki level lol.

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#34  Edited By Raziel2014
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@defiant_will: sound 4 should easily scale above the royal guard and are way faster, though RG have amazing abilities that can solo, PR Meruem himself just caps at low Akatsuki level lol.

Uvogin common nen enhance punch > any S4 Feat this becomes even higher if you use Anime it makes S4 feat seem like crap in comparison.

Feitan Sun Attack >>>> any S4 Feat

RG >>>>>> Phantom Troupe

Youpi Punch is almost on par with War arc Sakura 100 Seal by the way.

Sound 4 Feats Bellow:

1. Arrow used against Neji -> Building level

2. Jirobo Lifting Giant Choji -> Building Level

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#35  Edited By SaddHussus89

@Raziel2014:

No, you're wildin, their feats are easily thousands of tons each and are lightning timers, while phantom troupe is basically fodder to a royal guard, with most members being a hundred tons of TNT and supersonic, which even base Gon and Killua scale to, stop just going off visual feats. By that logic, Uvo would get stomped in the forest of death cause he's just superhuman level.

The whole troupe combined gets solo'd by Godspeed Killua without his speed amp and even chunin exams Sasuke, lmao. That's why y'all gotta be fair in raw scaling, they're chunin exams level combined, and there's no way to upscale them to the sound 4.

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Any of the Royal Guards solo, Uvo shits on any of the Sound 4 and He scales below the Royal guards.

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Royal Guards should sweep

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#38  Edited By Nohighballing

not much of a fight, weaker characters like Uvogin would slap the S4 to death it would be impressive if they can even break through Uvogin Nen much less a RG member

why are we comparing a bunch of Building level characters to Multi City Block+ RG members.

if my mind serves me correctly Gon already had Building level feat when he punched a huge Boulder during his training with Bisky putting him on par with S4 already.

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#39  Edited By SaddHussus89

@raziel2014: Stop downplaying lol.

If you think the phantom troupe is any relevant to the sound 4's town level feats, then you're tripping.

How do you even get town level to building level?

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Leaning towards the sound 4, but I can see the royal guards winning.

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Royal Guards should win, but Sakon is a massive threat who shouldn't be underestimated.

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#42  Edited By SaddHussus89

@nohighballing: Nigga, the phantom troupe is basically fodder superhumans in the chimera ants and Sasuke retrieval arcs, most their members are in the supersonic 100-200 tonne range, even base Gon and Killua scale to that.

CHUNIN EXAMS solo the troupe pretty easily, I don't know how you can keep him at city block+, but downplay sound 4 to building level lmao.

Their feats are all calced at 1000s of tons, similar to the royal guards. Choji literally dwarfed trees against Jirobo lmao, and multi city-block still gets bodied by chunin exams Sasuke.

Why are y'all such hypocrites when it comes to visual feats vs actual AP and scaling?

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#43  Edited By SaddHussus89

@raziel2014: Also, Choji literally dwarfed forest trees, how the fuck do you get him to building level, guess what? His raw power ITSELF was amped when he turned giant, he was already building level in base, so how tf is he building level just because of his size?

Do y'all not know that size and physical punches in anime ≠ power level?

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what the hell is this thread

Sound 4 stomp, HxH verse is relatively weak

>inb4 MHS royal guards based on fraudulent calcs that are easily debunked

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

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Sound 4.

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@alisupo1: exactly lol

@Nohighballing and Raziel be trippin

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#47  Edited By SaddHussus89

@captain_redfists: Y'all always inconsistent with wanking HxH lmao, even though both the series' scaling, statements and feats show that both the combined sound 4 and royal guards are city level, a.k.a above base Meruem, with S4 easily lightning speed/multi-hypersonic; which is god tier speed in HXH.

Assuming the feats and stats are at fair and equal standards, no bias.

When you compare anybody post-forest of death to phantom troupe, you lose all credibility lol.

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#48  Edited By SaddHussus89

@xebec: Actually, it's not a big stomp, both are equally small city level, but S4 are faster.

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@xebec: Actually, it's not a big stomp, both are equally small city level, but S4 are faster.

S4 are severely faster. Youpi and Pouf are subsonic-subsonic+ at best while Pitou is in the mach 1-1.5 range. Calcs that put them at MHS and shit are highball and ignore a lot of context (not to mention contradict literally the entire series) just for the sake of wanking HxH top tiers to put them in vs against much stronger verses

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#50  Edited By SaddHussus89

@xebec: What do you mean?

You're severely downplaying HxH's speed.

Did you know members of the phantom troupe like Uvo or Bonolenov are shown to catch bullets point-blank with no effort? Bonolenov is stated many times to cap at supersonic, and they're basically fodder. Godspeed is implied hypersonic lightning and 0.5% light speed in reaction time. It's just that Netero could go speed of sound pretty casually without Nen.

So how the fuck is Pitou only mach 1.5, when fucking Uvogin no-selled bullets point-blank?