The Top, Captain Cold, Mirror Master (McCulloh), Weather Wizard, Abra Kadabra, & Dr. Alchemy vs Loki, Magik, & Silver Surfer
Random Encounter
Post-Crisis Rogues
Win by any means
Idk, team Marvel looks pretty god damn strong...although i guess that Mirror Master could solo this one. Couldn't he just send team Marvel to a poczet dimension & then destroy it? That seems pretty easy...
Magik could send him to limbo, or Loki could teleport them back
MM sends them to a pocket dimension and destroys it
Don't Surfer and Loki make this a stomp for their team?
Magik also makes it a stomp. Any of the three should solo.
I'm going to dare to say that anyone on team 2 solos.
Magik, Loki or Silver Surfer could potentially solo
When they have dimension shattering durability, call me.
As it stands, MM has already explained when he crushes a mirror, it destroys the Dimension within.
When they have dimension shattering durability, call me.
As it stands, MM has already explained when he crushes a mirror, it destroys the Dimension within.
But they all can just teleport out of said dimension. Plus he has to hit them with his beam/tech before he can even get them in said dimension.
When they have dimension shattering durability, call me.
As it stands, MM has already explained when he crushes a mirror, it destroys the Dimension within.
But they all can just teleport out of said dimension. Plus he has to hit them with his beam/tech before he can even get them in said dimension.
Not really.
MM has BFR'ed multiple people without their knowing he even did. Once to the Flash mid fight, Flash didn't realise he was in a pocket dimension until a the quasi-end of the book, so how would they know they even were BFR'ed?
In Rogue's Revenge all he did was pull out a pocket mirror. Done. a whole street gang was gone, and that's pretty standard for him to open up with that strategy.
Rogues should take it every time.
When they have dimension shattering durability, call me.
As it stands, MM has already explained when he crushes a mirror, it destroys the Dimension within.
But they all can just teleport out of said dimension. Plus he has to hit them with his beam/tech before he can even get them in said dimension.
Not really.
MM has BFR'ed multiple people without their knowing he even did. Once to the Flash mid fight, Flash didn't realise he was in a pocket dimension until a the quasi-end of the book, so how would they know they even were BFR'ed?
In Rogue's Revenge all he did was pull out a pocket mirror. Done. a whole street gang was gone, and that's pretty standard for him to open up with that strategy.
Rogues should take it every time.
But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.
But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.
Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?
But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.
Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?
Not right now. I don't have my scans on me.
But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.
Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?
Not right now. I don't have my scans on me.
That's a shame. I do not have any either.
It's whatever. even on that assumption, They still have Kadabra and Alchemy to worry about. One of which turned Superman into a puppet, and manipulated the speed force to slow down Jay Garrick.
There's too many characters in the Rogues, with too many OP powersets for the three to be dealing with Mirror Master's tricks AND the rest of them.
Until I see that they can immedietly sense which Dimension they are in, The Rogues should take it handily.
Until I see that they can immedietly sense which Dimension they are in, The Rogues should take it handily.
Surfer has cosmic awareness he should know. Besides, that's assuming they get BFR'd before anyone on team 2 kills Team 1 in the first place.
But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.
Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?
Not right now. I don't have my scans on me.
That's a shame. I do not have any either.
It's whatever. even on that assumption, They still have Kadabra and Alchemy to worry about. One of which turned Superman into a puppet, and manipulated the speed force to slow down Jay Garrick.
There's too many characters in the Rogues, with too many OP powersets for the three to be dealing with Mirror Master's tricks AND the rest of them.
Until I see that they can immedietly sense which Dimension they are in, The Rogues should take it handily.
But Loki turned skyfather Bor to snow and tricked him with illusions. He's also tricked Odin before and can go intangible. Abra can't do anything to Loki.
I say Kadabra and Mirror Master are the MVPs since they seem to have the fastest reaction feats on the team (barring maybe The Top), which should bear consideration in a random encounter.
Transmutation, reality warping, and dimension hopping are potent tools at a blitzing speed.
But Loki turned skyfather Bor to snow and tricked him with illusions. He's also tricked Odin before and can go intangible. Abra can't do anything to Loki.
So it's all illusion magic? Abra is a reality-warper and can make anyone into a puppet, a real puppet, and can steal powers from anyone. He usually loses to Flash because of his cocky nature, but since this is a "win by any means" then he will be playing it seriously.
Loki solos. Magik solos. Surfer solos. But especially Loki solos.
QFT
But Loki turned skyfather Bor to snow and tricked him with illusions. He's also tricked Odin before and can go intangible. Abra can't do anything to Loki.
So it's all illusion magic? Abra is a reality-warper and can make anyone into a puppet, a real puppet, and can steal powers from anyone. He usually loses to Flash because of his cocky nature, but since this is a "win by any means" then he will be playing it seriously.
No. He turned him to snow for real. Loki can also reality warp. Time, matter, etc.
@darkraiden: Can I see scans of Loki's best reality-warping feats?
I'm going to dare to say that anyone on team 2 solos.
They can't. Rouges win. First Abra wipes their minds, then Evan traps them in a mirror and shatters them. Dr. Alchemy turns Magik into stone for good measure.
@highaccuser: Does Magik have built-in protection agains artifacts such as The Stone? My notion that she might was the only reason I didn't list Alchemy alongside Evan and Abra, although he's still capable of some tricks without the Stone too.
@darkraiden: Can I see scans of Loki's best reality-warping feats?
Eh....I'll just throw you some links of his transmutation stuff:
reverses invisible woman's shields:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnergyManipulation10FirstThunder5.jpg
transmutes cars and other objects into candy:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation05.jpg
animates trees to fight Thor:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation02JIM92.jpg
animates trees to bind thor:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation06aDominationFactor4.jpg
animates trees against the Avengers:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation04WestCoastAvengers55.jpg
animates the sphinx, turns whale into sea serpent, re-awaken dinosaurs:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation03JIM94.jpg
animates stone lions:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation08FirstThunder2.jpg
animates the ground to form a hand:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation05.jpg
animates branches to hold Thor:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation06bDominationFactor6.jpg
animates bushes into horses:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation07SonofAsgard5.jpg
transmutes castle to one of his liking:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17aNecromantaLordPumpkin1.jpg
transmutes egg into ring that's attuned to someone else:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17b.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17c.jpg
transmutes crown to ring:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation23SiegeLoki1.jpg
bazookas and rifles sprout wings:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation06.jpg
combines sentinels to make tri-sentinel:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation16AmazingSpiderman329.jpg
transmutes clouds into flying dragons:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation07JIM92.jpg
transmutes air into a giant gold statue:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation10.jpg
transmutes/creates gold:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation15Annuall14.jpg
transforms a tree into a tiger:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation03JIM88.jpg
transforms spiders into giant spiders:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation19SonofAsgard1.jpg
transforms rats into giant dire rats:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells29-DireRats.jpg
in astral form turns lizard into dragon:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation14401.jpg
transmutes people into negatives:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation02.jpg
turns people into blanks:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation04.jpg
transmutes hand into glass:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation21v312.jpg
transmutes people into stone, glass, skinless, boneless and keeps them alive:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation28FirstThunder2.jpg
transforms jane into old hag:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation30FirstThunder5.jpg
turns giant into eagle and back again:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation08JIM115.jpg
turns balder to lizard form and back again:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation09193.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11.jpg
turns person into a goat:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11aMarvelFanfare35.jpg
turns goat to a walking stick:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11bMarvelFanfare36.jpg
turns asgardians to wood:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation18DominationFactor6.jpg
turns pumpkin guy into living scarecrow:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17D.jpg
transforms Bor father of Odin and skyfather into snow:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation20v37.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation22.jpg
And some spell work:
enchants cards to never lose and to heal wounds:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment01370.jpg
enchants wood giant to heal any wound:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment04aDominationFactor2.jpg
enchants knife so he would be able to come back if he dies:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment04TTA1.jpg
enchants mirror to make whoever gazes at mirror fall in love with who's holding it:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment05SonofAsgard8.jpg
enchanted drink to ko wolverine:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment07WolverineWendigo1.jpg
silences girl's voice:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells68-RaggadorsRestraint28.jpg
reanimates the dead:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells30-Undead.jpg
reanimates dead child:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells36-ReanimationNecromantaLordPumpkin4.jpg
But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.
Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?
Not right now. I don't have my scans on me.
That's a shame. I do not have any either.
It's whatever. even on that assumption, They still have Kadabra and Alchemy to worry about. One of which turned Superman into a puppet, and manipulated the speed force to slow down Jay Garrick.
There's too many characters in the Rogues, with too many OP powersets for the three to be dealing with Mirror Master's tricks AND the rest of them.
Until I see that they can immedietly sense which Dimension they are in, The Rogues should take it handily.
Teleportation, sensing, sight, time travel stuff:
locates ghost rider:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision07430.jpg
scanned the earth and located hulk:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision03Avengers300.jpg
peers into the world again:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision14MightyAvengers32.jpg
can see in the entire universe:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision08Hardcase23.jpg
Sees Silver Surfer's past:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision02SilverSurfer4.jpg
sees mutation in one's genes:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision16ThorFirstThunder3.jpg
teleports Absorbing man to frozen land:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation02JIM122.jpg
switches place with Thor:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation28God-Sized1.jpg
teleports avengers away (disguised as scarlet witch):
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation31.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation32MightyAvengers23.jpg
in astral form, teleports Surfer away:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation03SilverSurfer4.jpg
teleports Hulk to asgard:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation04TTA101.jpg
teleports human torch to Jotunheim:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation43FirstThunder5.jpg
teleports wrecker into another dimension:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation23431.jpg
teleports jane away:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation01JIM108.jpg
traps jane in limbo:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation08Avengers107.jpg
calls a weapon from limbo:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation12275.jpg
teleports to the nexus of all realities (disguised as Dr. Strange):
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation26aDominationFactor5.jpg
teleports x-men away:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation16UXMAnnual9.jpg
teleports ulik to earth:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation05173.jpg
teleports warrior 3 to asgard:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation07191.jpg
opens a gateway to teleport:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation17375.jpg
opens a door to teleport:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation39SiegeLoki1.jpg
teleports away instantly:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation20CaptainAmerica365.jpg
teleports in a billow of smoke:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation19397.jpg
teleports Juggernaut out of his bindings:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation21411.jpg
teleports Doom out of harm's way:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation37606.jpg
can teleport self and others and stay invisible/cloaked:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation40AvengersOrigin2.jpg
time travel via the time stream:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells33-TimeTravel454.jpg
disguised as dr. strange, his spells render him and heroes immune to time freeze:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells47-TimeFreezeDominationFactor1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells49-TimeFreezeDominationFactor2.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells48-TimeTravelDominationFactor1.jpg
situation with time stop:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells55-TimeFreezeDominationFactor6.jpg
send heroes astral selves back in time:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells51-TimeTravelDominationFactor2.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells56-TimeTravelDominationFactor8.jpg
remembers what happened despite time paradox:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells57-TimeTravel.jpg
time travel:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells66a-TimeTravelv212.jpg
That's great an all, but nothing really shows him to able to use his power to effect any of the heroes.
You said he was able to turn Bor to snow and not just another trickery, show me that scan.
That's great an all, but nothing really shows him to able to use his power to effect any of the heroes.
You said he was able to turn Bor to snow and not just another trickery, show me that scan.
I'll repost them as you must've missed them.
transforms spiders into giant spiders:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation19SonofAsgard1.jpg
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transforms rats into giant dire rats:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells29-DireRats.jpg
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in astral form turns lizard into dragon:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation14401.jpg
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transmutes people into negatives:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation02.jpg
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turns people into blanks:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation04.jpg
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transmutes hand into glass:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation21v312.jpg
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transmutes people into stone, glass, skinless, boneless and keeps them alive:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation28FirstThunder2.jpg
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transforms jane into old hag:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation30FirstThunder5.jpg
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turns giant into eagle and back again:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation08JIM115.jpg
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turns balder to lizard form and back again:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation09193.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11.jpg
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turns person into a goat:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11aMarvelFanfare35.jpg
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turns goat to a walking stick:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11bMarvelFanfare36.jpg
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turns asgardians to wood:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation18DominationFactor6.jpg
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turns pumpkin guy into living scarecrow:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17D.jpg
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transforms Bor father of Odin and skyfather into snow:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation20v37.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation22.jpg
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