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#1  Edited By ZhuRong

The Top, Captain Cold, Mirror Master (McCulloh), Weather Wizard, Abra Kadabra, & Dr. Alchemy vs Loki, Magik, & Silver Surfer

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Post-Crisis Rogues

Win by any means

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Lol really?

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MM sends them to a pocket dimension and destroys it

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#5  Edited By Night4345
@dondave said:

MM sends them to a pocket dimension and destroys it

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I'm going to dare to say that anyone on team 2 solos.

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Magik sends them to limbo is an acceptable answer? I guess.

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Rogues.

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Magik, Loki or Silver Surfer could potentially solo

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#10  Edited By DrF8

Idk, team Marvel looks pretty god damn strong...although i guess that Mirror Master could solo this one. Couldn't he just send team Marvel to a poczet dimension & then destroy it? That seems pretty easy...

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@drfate said:

Idk, team Marvel looks pretty god damn strong...although i guess that Mirror Master could solo this one. Couldn't he just send team Marvel to a poczet dimension & then destroy it? That seems pretty easy...

Magik could send him to limbo, or Loki could teleport them back

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@dondave said:

MM sends them to a pocket dimension and destroys it

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ss speedblitz before any of that happens

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Don't Surfer and Loki make this a stomp for their team?

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Don't Surfer and Loki make this a stomp for their team?

Magik also makes it a stomp. Any of the three should solo.

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Team 2 mirror master is fast but too much magic in the works

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#17  Edited By serrure

I'm going to dare to say that anyone on team 2 solos.

Magik, Loki or Silver Surfer could potentially solo

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Rogues. I think people are forgetting about Kadabra.

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Loki solos. Magik solos. Surfer solos. But especially Loki solos.

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When they have dimension shattering durability, call me.

As it stands, MM has already explained when he crushes a mirror, it destroys the Dimension within.

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Every member of team 2 can solo. Just not completely sure about Magik

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When they have dimension shattering durability, call me.

As it stands, MM has already explained when he crushes a mirror, it destroys the Dimension within.

But they all can just teleport out of said dimension. Plus he has to hit them with his beam/tech before he can even get them in said dimension.

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#25  Edited By nickthedevil

@darkraiden said:

@nickthedevil said:

When they have dimension shattering durability, call me.

As it stands, MM has already explained when he crushes a mirror, it destroys the Dimension within.

But they all can just teleport out of said dimension. Plus he has to hit them with his beam/tech before he can even get them in said dimension.

Not really.

MM has BFR'ed multiple people without their knowing he even did. Once to the Flash mid fight, Flash didn't realise he was in a pocket dimension until a the quasi-end of the book, so how would they know they even were BFR'ed?

In Rogue's Revenge all he did was pull out a pocket mirror. Done. a whole street gang was gone, and that's pretty standard for him to open up with that strategy.

Rogues should take it every time.

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@darkraiden said:

@nickthedevil said:

When they have dimension shattering durability, call me.

As it stands, MM has already explained when he crushes a mirror, it destroys the Dimension within.

But they all can just teleport out of said dimension. Plus he has to hit them with his beam/tech before he can even get them in said dimension.

Not really.

MM has BFR'ed multiple people without their knowing he even did. Once to the Flash mid fight, Flash didn't realise he was in a pocket dimension until a the quasi-end of the book, so how would they know they even were BFR'ed?

In Rogue's Revenge all he did was pull out a pocket mirror. Done. a whole street gang was gone, and that's pretty standard for him to open up with that strategy.

Rogues should take it every time.

But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.

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But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.

Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?

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@darkraiden said:

But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.

Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?

Not right now. I don't have my scans on me.

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Team 2 stomps

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Loki BFRS all to Jotenheim and lets them die

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Classic Kadabra and Evan vs. Loki and Magik is a pretty novel fight, imo.

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@nickthedevil said:

@darkraiden said:

But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.

Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?

Not right now. I don't have my scans on me.

That's a shame. I do not have any either.

It's whatever. even on that assumption, They still have Kadabra and Alchemy to worry about. One of which turned Superman into a puppet, and manipulated the speed force to slow down Jay Garrick.

There's too many characters in the Rogues, with too many OP powersets for the three to be dealing with Mirror Master's tricks AND the rest of them.

Until I see that they can immedietly sense which Dimension they are in, The Rogues should take it handily.

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Until I see that they can immedietly sense which Dimension they are in, The Rogues should take it handily.

Surfer has cosmic awareness he should know. Besides, that's assuming they get BFR'd before anyone on team 2 kills Team 1 in the first place.

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@darkraiden said:

@nickthedevil said:

@darkraiden said:

But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.

Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?

Not right now. I don't have my scans on me.

That's a shame. I do not have any either.

It's whatever. even on that assumption, They still have Kadabra and Alchemy to worry about. One of which turned Superman into a puppet, and manipulated the speed force to slow down Jay Garrick.

There's too many characters in the Rogues, with too many OP powersets for the three to be dealing with Mirror Master's tricks AND the rest of them.

Until I see that they can immedietly sense which Dimension they are in, The Rogues should take it handily.

But Loki turned skyfather Bor to snow and tricked him with illusions. He's also tricked Odin before and can go intangible. Abra can't do anything to Loki.

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#35  Edited By Jacthripper

Marvel team

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#36  Edited By mightyrearranger

I say Kadabra and Mirror Master are the MVPs since they seem to have the fastest reaction feats on the team (barring maybe The Top), which should bear consideration in a random encounter.

Transmutation, reality warping, and dimension hopping are potent tools at a blitzing speed.

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Ebwop: I do think Loki is being undersold here though.

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Rogues.

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@darkraiden:

But Loki turned skyfather Bor to snow and tricked him with illusions. He's also tricked Odin before and can go intangible. Abra can't do anything to Loki.

So it's all illusion magic? Abra is a reality-warper and can make anyone into a puppet, a real puppet, and can steal powers from anyone. He usually loses to Flash because of his cocky nature, but since this is a "win by any means" then he will be playing it seriously.

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Loki solos. Magik solos. Surfer solos. But especially Loki solos.

QFT

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@darkraiden:

But Loki turned skyfather Bor to snow and tricked him with illusions. He's also tricked Odin before and can go intangible. Abra can't do anything to Loki.

So it's all illusion magic? Abra is a reality-warper and can make anyone into a puppet, a real puppet, and can steal powers from anyone. He usually loses to Flash because of his cocky nature, but since this is a "win by any means" then he will be playing it seriously.

No. He turned him to snow for real. Loki can also reality warp. Time, matter, etc.

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@darkraiden: Can I see scans of Loki's best reality-warping feats?

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Kadabra solos

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I'm going to dare to say that anyone on team 2 solos.

They can't. Rouges win. First Abra wipes their minds, then Evan traps them in a mirror and shatters them. Dr. Alchemy turns Magik into stone for good measure.

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#45  Edited By mightyrearranger

@highaccuser: Does Magik have built-in protection agains artifacts such as The Stone? My notion that she might was the only reason I didn't list Alchemy alongside Evan and Abra, although he's still capable of some tricks without the Stone too.

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@darkraiden: Can I see scans of Loki's best reality-warping feats?

Eh....I'll just throw you some links of his transmutation stuff:

reverses invisible woman's shields:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnergyManipulation10FirstThunder5.jpg

transmutes cars and other objects into candy:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation05.jpg

animates trees to fight Thor:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation02JIM92.jpg

animates trees to bind thor:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation06aDominationFactor4.jpg

animates trees against the Avengers:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation04WestCoastAvengers55.jpg

animates the sphinx, turns whale into sea serpent, re-awaken dinosaurs:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation03JIM94.jpg

animates stone lions:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation08FirstThunder2.jpg

animates the ground to form a hand:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation05.jpg

animates branches to hold Thor:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation06bDominationFactor6.jpg

animates bushes into horses:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiAnimation07SonofAsgard5.jpg

transmutes castle to one of his liking:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17aNecromantaLordPumpkin1.jpg

transmutes egg into ring that's attuned to someone else:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17b.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17c.jpg

transmutes crown to ring:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation23SiegeLoki1.jpg

bazookas and rifles sprout wings:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation06.jpg

combines sentinels to make tri-sentinel:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation16AmazingSpiderman329.jpg

transmutes clouds into flying dragons:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation07JIM92.jpg

transmutes air into a giant gold statue:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation10.jpg

transmutes/creates gold:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation15Annuall14.jpg

transforms a tree into a tiger:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation03JIM88.jpg

transforms spiders into giant spiders:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation19SonofAsgard1.jpg

transforms rats into giant dire rats:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells29-DireRats.jpg

in astral form turns lizard into dragon:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation14401.jpg

transmutes people into negatives:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation02.jpg

turns people into blanks:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation04.jpg

transmutes hand into glass:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation21v312.jpg

transmutes people into stone, glass, skinless, boneless and keeps them alive:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation28FirstThunder2.jpg

transforms jane into old hag:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation30FirstThunder5.jpg

turns giant into eagle and back again:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation08JIM115.jpg

turns balder to lizard form and back again:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation09193.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11.jpg

turns person into a goat:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11aMarvelFanfare35.jpg

turns goat to a walking stick:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11bMarvelFanfare36.jpg

turns asgardians to wood:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation18DominationFactor6.jpg

turns pumpkin guy into living scarecrow:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17D.jpg

transforms Bor father of Odin and skyfather into snow:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation20v37.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation22.jpg

And some spell work:

enchants cards to never lose and to heal wounds:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment01370.jpg

enchants wood giant to heal any wound:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment04aDominationFactor2.jpg

enchants knife so he would be able to come back if he dies:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment04TTA1.jpg

enchants mirror to make whoever gazes at mirror fall in love with who's holding it:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment05SonofAsgard8.jpg

enchanted drink to ko wolverine:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnchantment07WolverineWendigo1.jpg

silences girl's voice:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells68-RaggadorsRestraint28.jpg

reanimates the dead:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells30-Undead.jpg

reanimates dead child:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells36-ReanimationNecromantaLordPumpkin4.jpg

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@darkraiden said:

@nickthedevil said:

@darkraiden said:

But unlike Flash and a street gang.....Loki and surfer and Magik can teleport and all have excellent senses /cosmic awareness. Then add in that Loki can snap his finger and do worse to MM (and he snaps much faster) and that he can survive without a body, and he easily stomps every time. MM is actually hard countered by all 3 of them.

Before we go any further, because any further would be assuming they would get out of said pocket dimension, would you care to show me an instance in which they sense they are in an incorrect universe/dimension/time?

Not right now. I don't have my scans on me.

That's a shame. I do not have any either.

It's whatever. even on that assumption, They still have Kadabra and Alchemy to worry about. One of which turned Superman into a puppet, and manipulated the speed force to slow down Jay Garrick.

There's too many characters in the Rogues, with too many OP powersets for the three to be dealing with Mirror Master's tricks AND the rest of them.

Until I see that they can immedietly sense which Dimension they are in, The Rogues should take it handily.

Teleportation, sensing, sight, time travel stuff:

locates ghost rider:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision07430.jpg

scanned the earth and located hulk:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision03Avengers300.jpg

peers into the world again:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision14MightyAvengers32.jpg

can see in the entire universe:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision08Hardcase23.jpg

Sees Silver Surfer's past:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision02SilverSurfer4.jpg

sees mutation in one's genes:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision16ThorFirstThunder3.jpg

teleports Absorbing man to frozen land:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation02JIM122.jpg

switches place with Thor:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation28God-Sized1.jpg

teleports avengers away (disguised as scarlet witch):

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation31.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation32MightyAvengers23.jpg

in astral form, teleports Surfer away:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation03SilverSurfer4.jpg

teleports Hulk to asgard:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation04TTA101.jpg

teleports human torch to Jotunheim:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation43FirstThunder5.jpg

teleports wrecker into another dimension:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation23431.jpg

teleports jane away:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation01JIM108.jpg

traps jane in limbo:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation08Avengers107.jpg

calls a weapon from limbo:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation12275.jpg

teleports to the nexus of all realities (disguised as Dr. Strange):

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation26aDominationFactor5.jpg

teleports x-men away:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation16UXMAnnual9.jpg

teleports ulik to earth:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation05173.jpg

teleports warrior 3 to asgard:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation07191.jpg

opens a gateway to teleport:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation17375.jpg

opens a door to teleport:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation39SiegeLoki1.jpg

teleports away instantly:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation20CaptainAmerica365.jpg

teleports in a billow of smoke:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation19397.jpg

teleports Juggernaut out of his bindings:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation21411.jpg

teleports Doom out of harm's way:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation37606.jpg

can teleport self and others and stay invisible/cloaked:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation40AvengersOrigin2.jpg

time travel via the time stream:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells33-TimeTravel454.jpg

disguised as dr. strange, his spells render him and heroes immune to time freeze:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells47-TimeFreezeDominationFactor1.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells49-TimeFreezeDominationFactor2.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells48-TimeTravelDominationFactor1.jpg

situation with time stop:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells55-TimeFreezeDominationFactor6.jpg

send heroes astral selves back in time:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells51-TimeTravelDominationFactor2.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells56-TimeTravelDominationFactor8.jpg

remembers what happened despite time paradox:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells57-TimeTravel.jpg

time travel:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells66a-TimeTravelv212.jpg

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#49  Edited By ShadoVvlite

@darkraiden:

That's great an all, but nothing really shows him to able to use his power to effect any of the heroes.

You said he was able to turn Bor to snow and not just another trickery, show me that scan.

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@darkraiden:

That's great an all, but nothing really shows him to able to use his power to effect any of the heroes.

You said he was able to turn Bor to snow and not just another trickery, show me that scan.

I'll repost them as you must've missed them.

transforms spiders into giant spiders:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation19SonofAsgard1.jpg

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transforms rats into giant dire rats:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells29-DireRats.jpg

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in astral form turns lizard into dragon:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation14401.jpg

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transmutes people into negatives:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation02.jpg

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turns people into blanks:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation04.jpg

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transmutes hand into glass:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation21v312.jpg

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transmutes people into stone, glass, skinless, boneless and keeps them alive:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation28FirstThunder2.jpg

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transforms jane into old hag:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation30FirstThunder5.jpg

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turns giant into eagle and back again:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation08JIM115.jpg

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turns balder to lizard form and back again:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation09193.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11.jpg

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turns person into a goat:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11aMarvelFanfare35.jpg

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turns goat to a walking stick:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation11bMarvelFanfare36.jpg

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turns asgardians to wood:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation18DominationFactor6.jpg

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turns pumpkin guy into living scarecrow:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation17D.jpg

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transforms Bor father of Odin and skyfather into snow:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation20v37.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation22.jpg