the punisher vs predator

battlefield can be anywhere

What versions? What conditions?

@jooosh1996: 1987 predator vs regular comic or marvel max punisher. 1st scenario 2 days prep time the 2nd no prep

Predator

Btw, Arnold > Frank Castle

I think Frank could do it if Arnold could.

round 1: Frank Stomps

Round 2: Predator

Frank easily wins both rounds. Complete and utter stomp.

If only movie versions, than The predator wins

If comic versions, then the Predator again

But this is a Comic character against a Movie character, which is straight up unfair.

@robertmiles1: OMG i was gonna make dis thread but was 2 afraid it would be a stomp i applaud u good sir!??

Predator cleans Frank's clock. Predator 87 took out highly trained heavily armed mercs, military like it was nothing until Arnold.

@seastone98: ya no problem man

The Punisher

Punisher Max would be the better fight for just a first movie Pred. Comic Pred would need to be matched with 616 Frank. Either of the fights an go either way IMO.

@allstarsuperman: it isn't as simple as that. There are various clans that make the chances in this fight go either way.

If it is from the jungle hunter clan in the Comics, then it's 50/50 either way.

If it's from the Dark Blade Clan, it's a stomp in the Predator's favor.

I also believe the cloak would give Frank a hard time, and the kind of predator(the 87 one was pretty experienced) compared to say the AVP ones(first movie)

Frank is not a standard merc. He is more like the ultimate commando. He has experience in dealing with "enhanced" beings. So comparing Frank to Arnold is like comparing Mike Tyson to Pee Wee Herman in boxing skills.

This. If Dutch (Arnold's character) could do it, then the Punisher could do it better.

Prep or no prep frank curbs

@robertmiles1: switch it to a comic predator.

Someone strong, but not too strong.

Elites like Scarface are too great of a challenge.

You need someone who is a strong blooded character but weaker than Elites and Elders.

Frank isn't as smart as Dutch is though. He may be loaded but then so is the Predator

I know that, but he's not an expert military guy either. He's a vigilante with lots of guns so he's loaded but I mean he's no Deathstroke or super tactical like the Predator is. Arnold's character isn't a merc, he's an experienced leader of a military squad specifically for extreme missions..

Wait...what? Frank is not a expert "military guy"?...He is a Legendary "military guy". Comparing him to Deathstroke is very debatable, and Frank is crazy insane in tactical situations.

@stunnersix: My fault, I was getting him confused with someone else's bio initially. Anyway, I'll still go with the predator but will say it'll be closer than I thought. I do think the kind of Predator(experienced or not) will also make a difference.

@arctika: I would say, it would only be fair if perhaps a dozen Predators showed up honestly. Frank has always been underestimated, but he has quite a few feats under his belt =)

@stunnersix: A dozen is a lot lol, I mean they're very, very smart and powerful in their own right. Though the comic versions are alot more powerful and wiser honestly compared to the movie versions honestly. Though I think if it was the live versions, I'd definitely go Predator. The comic versions seem vastly more impressive I've noticed.

The Yautja, even if it is the movie version, is getting seriously lowballed here... Sure, Frank is certainly above the military and mercs The Predator faced individually, but they had numbers and teamwork Frank will dearly miss here. This Yautja avoided most, and I mean MOST of the damage from that mini-gun blitz, plus many other things that might not seem impresive, because of the technical limitations of cinematic storytelling back then, but are still impressive... The battle might be tough, but I go with The Predator, 7/10.

Sorry Frank's feats are just too much. He has no problems working against teams, he even held off the Avengers/Thunderbolts for a bit & the Reavers. And took on Deadpool and Wolverine one on one. The Yautja would never know what hit them, although they are skilled assassins and hunters....but Frank knows this game too well.

@lucano: Good points I agree man.

@stunnersix: I'm not too sure if a dozen is fair.

Don't forget that this is only the Movie Predators.

If it was a Comic predator, one elite would take him Low diff.

@sladerulez: Alright. What feats does the predator (comic) have?

@stunnersix: ram through Concrete, kill entire hordes of Xenomorphs, stated to have nearly flawless Hand to hand with no openings.

They are also crazy tough, tanking Various explosions and missiles with minimal to no injury. A cannonball to the back literally did nothing to one. While another tanked a shotgun blast to the face.

In the Dark Blade clan, an elite Named Scarface survived in a monster infested planet with only his spear and wrist blades for an entire Century, before returning to earth, killing a city filled with Thugs that stole their tech, a nest of Xenomorphs, and Some of his own Yautja brethren, and a Yautja/human hybrid, yet he isn't even the strongest predator in his clan

Impressive. I need to read up on that series. But in my opinion, according to feats, I think Frank would still win. He has faced much worse. I have always thought of him as a wildcard in most battles.