The Presence vs Thought Robot

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Who wins ?

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#2  Edited By olajoe1

Presence without even trying

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Presence got killed by a Monitor without the Monitor even trying.

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@olajoe1 said:

Presence without even trying

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Going a bit too far arent we?

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TR stomps overrated character who got soloed several times over

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TR beats the current DC/Vertigo writers to death one shotting Presence forever

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#7  Edited By MichaelJulius

Nil Monitors are the authors. Literally.

Overvoid > Mandrakk > CAS > Authors > Presence > Angels/Endless. Facts.

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Authors get one shot by CAS and Mandrakk

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@yamiyodare: Mankrakk is Overvoid. It's the thing that makes all the concepts and the thing that made the ultimate concept to contain the flaw. All concepts that are and are not are only defeated by what allows concepts to exist. Allows anything at all to exist or not exist.

And that's Mandrakk. Mandrakk made the CAS.

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@olajoe1 said:

Presence without even trying

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@yamiyodare: Because all concepts and all things that exist and don't exist come from Mandrakk. The only power capable of combating it was the narrative of Superman.

It's hope. It's the hero. It's every concept that can and cannot be. Mandrakk is the platform that lets plantic concepts exist. And it births them. It has total control over them.

Every concept ever is still beaten by the thing that lets thing come to be, exist or not exist at all.

Mandrakk was unharmed. Mandrakk won that. He was sent back to Overvoid.

CAS was crumbling. Every concept possible that is and is not was dying and breaking. Mandrakk was fine.

Returning Mandrakk to himself was the only surefire win.

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@yamiyodare: I'm on mobile at the moment. But Mandrakk and Monitors saw the CAS is a gift from Mandrakk before he went sour.

Mandrakk made it so it could protect against himself if things went south. They went south. And CAS was destroyed anyway. Mandrakk sustained no real damage and only being sent to Overvoid was the only way to win.

Send him back to his true self. Like Jesus returning to God. Both are still God. And Jesus listens to himself, the father. Who has more authority even still.

That's the biblical mirror of Mandrakk and Overvoid.

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CAS blinks

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@underfire47: All three of you only shill your favorites. There are no facts that matter. I'd be out of your hair if you would just say this is my preference. I don't like Monitors. So I'm backing Biblical entities instead. Simple as that.

Your opinions are not facts just because you say so. Therapists reading this must be facsinated by your responses.

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@michaeljulius: I think you need to go outside more, it's just comics.

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#19  Edited By MichaelJulius

@underfire47: I travel for a living and am on vacation right now. Don't get personal with me because you are butt hurt about your entire viewpoint being demolished.

I like debating. This is my hobby. If you don't like it, leave.

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@michaeljulius: Imagine traveling for a living and spending all your time on comic book sites lol.

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@underfire47: Imagine requiring a comic debate forum to bully others about their hobby.

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Lol presence

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Presence stomps. Also, similar thread here:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cosmic-armor-supermanliving-tribunal-vs-lucifer-mm-679142/?page=3

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@bdelloidgrain2: Oh my goodness. That entire argument about captain atom and Destiny is the missing piece needed to explain. Wow mate. Thank you for that.

Now I know why Grant gave Allen all that power over Retcon. It's revenge on Destiny for screwing with him in the past. Holy smokes. It makes perfect sense now.

this makes it an even bigger stomp for CAS

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@bdelloidgrain2: Oh my goodness. That entire argument about captain atom and Destiny is the missing piece needed to explain. Wow mate. Thank you for that.

Now I know why Grant gave Allen all that power over Retcon. It's revenge on Destiny for screwing with him in the past. Holy smokes. It makes perfect sense now.

this makes it an even bigger stomp for CAS

I have no idea what you are talking about...

Your now stating that Plot Bot beats BOTH brothers? This has already been debunked by Sungsam and Etriel.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cosmic-armor-supermanliving-tribunal-vs-lucifer-mm-679142/?page=3

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#28  Edited By bdelloidgrain2

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@bdelloidgrain2: TR absolutely stomps.

Not even close.

Michael Michael Michael... I respect you as a person. You seem like a good guy...

But you are completely wrong. He gets obliterated.

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presence

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Presence .

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Presence is not the creator.

CAS stomps

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Presence solos

Though robot is shit

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TR smacks Presence's overrated ass away.

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TR ass gets wooped by fodder green lanterns

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hmm a cosmic version of the most powerful superhero ive ever seen ill pick him to be the winner

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Presence=Overvoid

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wait so superman embodies all good concepts wow this is a bigger stomp in his favor then thanks for the scan ^

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@doctor223:

lol none of that proves Overvoid and the Presence are the same. Thinking of something as God doesn't mean it's the Presence.

The presence is an abrahamic god shaped by external forces within the DCU. The Overvoid was beyond the DCU and many structures as of late have proven that the Presence is not some top dog figure. Even Perpetua is stated to be beyond him. And the Dark Multiverse most likely is also beyond him since there is different iterations of the spectre made from the Dark Multiverse.

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IIRC the Presence in the DCU is God there. So, he just wins automatically.

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@xearesay: Do you ever read Green lantern? Presence=Source=Overvoid

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#44  Edited By xearesay  Online

@doctor223: That tweet is fake and doesn’t actually exist on Grants twitter. You can even tell the formatting of the tweet is entirely edited. And no one knows what the Source is so to link it with the Overvoid right now is ignorant. The Overvoid in figure, was inspired by Kirby’s source. It isn’t the literal same as Kirby’s source. DC has multiple voids.

The Vertigo void and the Kirby’s source are just some of the few. The Overvoid however is top dog.

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so is presence still god or is someone else god?

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Presence Ctrl+Alt+Deletes TR and Nil, who are just fragmented aspects of Mar Novu from CoIE.

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Presence blink stomps in a second.

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Thought Robot stomps for now until another writer comes in and shakes up the DC Hierarchy.

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@tedirey: Tbh that already happened. Perpetua is top dog now, since Mar Novu is her son and it was recently revealed that the Nil Monitors were aspects of him that fragmented during CoIE. This was revealed when the JL and World Forger went to Nil to find him.

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@deagonx: Perpetua at full power, yes. But we've not yet seen her at full power.