The One Escanor Vs Dangai Ichigo and Monster Aizen

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@rxdking: lol what feats cutting a hill in half. Ichigo vaped hills while suppressing himself. Blood lusted he would just shiit all over melidoas and escanor

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That moment when you lowball a character with a hill-mountain busting shockwave from an uninterested sword parry to just “mountain level”

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@undre said:

@rxdking: lol what feats cutting a hill in half. Ichigo vaped hills while suppressing himself. Blood lusted he would just shiit all over melidoas and escanor

Lol what a bad debater we have over here,

Literally taking the first feat shown in the show from 7DS and comparing it to EOS anime ichigo

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@azureus: Dangai Ichigo is above mountain level. The shockwaves of his casual sword strikes are hill level, meaning the actual strikes are likely mountain level, and he can obviously spam his slashes. He also blocked Aizen's mountain meteor with his bare arm and then waved away energy build up from all 4 of Aizen's wings. However, I agree The One Escanor is stronger.

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@rxdking: What feats does AM Meliodas has that's on Ichigo's and Aizen's level?

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Ichigo gets one-shot. Aizen can survive via regen long enough for Escanor to weaken enough for Aizen to overpower him.

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#108  Edited By Undre  Online

The one escanor is gonna becomes the 2 escanor when ichigo splits him in half

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Why are people still using the "hill" feat, it isn't the max output of Dangai Ichigo and it isn't even his best feat. Dangai Ichigo casually destroyed the Ultra Fragor with one swing

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Why is this impressive? Because a 50% VL Ichigo (so a much, much weaker version of Ichigo), contained and no-sold the Lanza del Relampago exploding in his palm

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Yet just one Fragor from Monster Aizen burned Dangai Ichigo's hand (coincidentally, the same hand that no-sold the Lanza)

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All of this means that a Fragor is way, way more powerful than Lanza, so even if you lowball Lanza to mountain lvl AP, a Fragor should easily be multi-mountain lvl in AP, and Dangai Ichigo destroyed the Ultra Fragor, which is 6 Fragors combined, with just 1 swing . . . 1 freaking casual swing, no techniques or Getsuga amped swing, just 1 casual swing.

I'm not sure what comes after multi-mountain, mountain range lvl or island lvl, but Dangai Ichigo's casual sword swings are there.

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How is the one more powerful than dangai?

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@ovy7:

Multi-mountain is followed by island... and he's confortably sitting there with casual swings.

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@faradaysloth:

Are you keeping up with 7DS?

Mel has so many feats, but recent 30~ chapters he's not here. Wait 4~ chapters till he obtains all the commandments + his emotions from purgatory + the blessings.

As for feats, do you want DC, Speed, Physicals, his immortality and regen?

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@rxdking said:

@faradaysloth:

Are you keeping up with 7DS?

Yes, for a while now.

Mel has so many feats

Like what?

As for feats, do you want DC, Speed, Physicals, his immortality and regen?

All of them...

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@ovy7 said:

Why are people still using the "hill" feat, it isn't the max output of Dangai Ichigo and it isn't even his best feat. Dangai Ichigo casually destroyed the Ultra Fragor with one swing

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Why is this impressive? Because a 50% VL Ichigo (so a much, much weaker version of Ichigo), contained and no-sold the Lanza del Relampago exploding in his palm

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Yet just one Fragor from Monster Aizen burned Dangai Ichigo's hand (coincidentally, the same hand that no-sold the Lanza)

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All of this means that a Fragor is way, way more powerful than Lanza, so even if you lowball Lanza to mountain lvl AP, a Fragor should easily be multi-mountain lvl in AP, and Dangai Ichigo destroyed the Ultra Fragor, which is 6 Fragors combined, with just 1 swing . . . 1 freaking casual swing, no techniques or Getsuga amped swing, just 1 casual swing.

I'm not sure what comes after multi-mountain, mountain range lvl or island lvl, but Dangai Ichigo's casual sword swings are there.

Lanza isn't mountain level...and Meliodas's Danafor feat is still more impressive than anything here and that was Pre Assault Mode. There's no reason that this will allow him to compete with Escanor who was fighting much stronger characters.

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#116  Edited By ourmanuel

How is Lanza not mountain level?

It was almost 5 times taller than LN and probably as wide by scaling from oscuras and the perspective

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How is Lanza not mountain level?

It was almost 5 times taller than LN and probably as wide by scaling from oscuras and the perspective

The same reason Nukes aren't mountain level. The Tsar Bomba has a blast range that's greater in size to Mt. Everest, yet wouldn't do a thing to it. What has Lanza even destroyed for it to be considered Mountain level? Just a big explosion?

I can see The Spirit Spear, The fragor, Bijuu dama, and FT Dragon Roars being Mountain level because they all actually destroyed Mountains/ comparable land masses. Lanza landed somewhere and made a big boom. So what?

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@azureus: so you think something of that size couldn’t destroy a mountain?

That’s a low blow, even for you.

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@azureus:

When did the spirit spear destroy a mountain?

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@azureus: so you think something of that size couldn’t destroy a mountain?

That’s a low blow, even for you.

I'll reiterate:

The Tsar Bomba has a blast range that's greater in size to Mt. Everest, yet wouldn't do a thing to it.

So what justification is there for mountain level? A big boom?

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#121  Edited By Azureus

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@azureus:

When did the spirit spear destroy a mountain?

When Mel fought Gloxinia and Drole. I should also add the shockwave alone did it.

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@azureus: a big boom that had more volume than a place like Las Noches. Just it’s shockwave alone was destroying parts of LN, and by scaling from cero oscuras that created a hole in the canopy of Las Noches, it would at least be able to destroy a mountain.

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@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:

@azureus:

When did the spirit spear destroy a mountain?

When Mel fought Gloxinia and Drole. I should also add the shockwave alone did it.

If you’re referring to the manga it only destroyed a small part of one and in the anime it only leveled a forest..

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@ourmanuel:

a big boom that had more volume than a place like Las Noches.

So what? There's nothing impressive aside from it's size.

Just it’s shockwave alone was destroying parts of LN..

LN by itself isn't even mountain level and this is reinforced further by the series itself. A lot of it is giant empty space.

and by scaling from cero oscuras that created a hole in the canopy of Las Noches, it would at least be able to destroy a mountain.

I don't think you understand how this even works. In terms of size, mountains are even smaller than cities and some towns. The entire reason Mountain+ > City level is due to the durability of mountains. They're fucking strong.

It being big doesn't mean it will do shit to a mountain.

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#125  Edited By Azureus
@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:

@azureus:

When did the spirit spear destroy a mountain?

When Mel fought Gloxinia and Drole. I should also add the shockwave alone did it.

If you’re referring to the manga it only destroyed a small part of one and in the anime it only leveled a forest..

For the manga:

We can already see the explosion itself didn't even touch it. The shockwave alone did it, which easily warrants Mountain level forces for the explosion itself.
We can already see the explosion itself didn't even touch it. The shockwave alone did it, which easily warrants Mountain level forces for the explosion itself.

As for the anime, I honestly don't know what forest you're even talking about.

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@azureus: lol dued your such a wanker it never destroy a mountain. It didnt even blow up those hills just stop

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#128  Edited By LeoTheGreatest

@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:
@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:

@azureus:

When did the spirit spear destroy a mountain?

When Mel fought Gloxinia and Drole. I should also add the shockwave alone did it.

If you’re referring to the manga it only destroyed a small part of one and in the anime it only leveled a forest..

For the manga:

We can already see the explosion itself didn't even touch it. The shockwave alone did it, which easily warrants Mountain level forces for the explosion itself.
We can already see the explosion itself didn't even touch it. The shockwave alone did it, which easily warrants Mountain level forces for the explosion itself.

Like i said it destroyed a small portion of a small mountain, if causing that level of damage with a shockwave is mountain level then i suppose Jackie's kick is mountain level.

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And even by your logic LDR must be around island level since it did the same but from what should be 100s of miles away.

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As for the anime, I honestly don't know what forest you're even talking about.

When i first saw it i viewed the cone like structures as trees and they still look like trees tbh.

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@geeman2: lol i never wanked i use actual feats. And scaling

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If The One lasts only for a minute, Bleach duo stomps. Otherwise Escanor.

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@ourmanuel:

wasnt Lanza felt a few hunderds kilometers away btw?

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The One still stomps.

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Dangai is stronger than shikai kenpachi soooo

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@kingguinness: His powerup only last one minute and even with that powerup still gets vaped

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@leothegreatest:

Like i said it destroyed a small portion of a small mountain, if causing that level of damage with a shockwave is mountain level then i suppose Jackie's kick is mountain level.

Only if you believe what ever was destroyed has the same mass as the summit of even a small mountain...but since you made this distinction, you probably do.

And even by your logic LDR must be around island level since it did the same but from what should be 100s of miles away.

Not really lol, since LN isn't even island level, and that the larger yield nukes also have shockwaves that powerful. So...

When i first saw it i viewed the cone like structures as trees and they still look like trees tbh.

Why are we entertaining the idea that trees can be roughly the same size as nearby mountains?

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#136  Edited By LeoTheGreatest

@azureus:

It has a similar mass to those pieces that were blown off the small mountain. So there you have it folks mountain level Jackie and casual mountain level Base Pre RG Renji.

The 3 day statement and every scan from within Las Noches prove it can’t be lowballed to anything below Island it is 100s of miles away and no Nuke can replicate that feat.

In the anime they looked like hills so we don’t really have to entertain anything.

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THE ONE still has zero feats to show he can beat let alone stomp the duo.

The Duo win in a mismatch.

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What are the AP's and hax of Aizen and Ichigo in these forms? Were they comparable current Meliodas?

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At the beginning of the series, Meliodas casually split and dusted a mountain on two separate occasions, regardless of calculations it was by the authors intent. At the beginning of the series, Meliodas had a suppressed power level of 3,170. Assault Mode Meliodas was somewhere around 150,000. The One is far superior.

Base Galand cut the tops of a mountain and the mountains surrounding them in a shockwave alone he destroyed a mountain range, and he had a power level of 26,000. Morning Escanor (Escanor in his "base"), no-sold this attack. Late Morning Escanor fought Estarossa, far superior Galand, even in his amped power level of 40,000. Escanor was between 60-80k in terms of power levels. And Escanor beat him with some difficulty, but he was in control of the fight the entire time. Escanor is not the One, he is a maniacal being of absolute power. Can someone refer to me how powerful Aizen and Ichigo are in comparison

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Why is the hill feat so impressive?

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A weaker Meliodas hollowed out a super large mountain the and the second largest kingdom on it. The One Escanor beat a STRONGER version of Mel. How does Ichigo compare?

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@geeman2: soifon dwafts a city with her bankia and shes fodder.

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Grimmjow destroys massive pillar with a nail hes also fodder

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Lanza is also fodder to dangai ichigo

That abyss is litterly all melidoas power. That same feat easily done by 1 fragor

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@geeman2 said:

@undre:

soifon dwafts a city with her bankia and shes fodder

Soifon is fodder to BOS Melodias so I don't see your point. Cool it's a big explosion but It didn't bust anything and best it has the potency of a large bomb, it only covered a couple city blocks IIRC in the anime and manga.

Grimmjow destroys massive pillar with a nail hes also fodder

Destroying a 30 meter pillar at best is nothing, what is your point? This is also fodder to Melodias.

Lanza is also fodder to dangai ichigo

Also fodder to Mel.

That abyss is litterly all melidoas power.

No it isn't, it's just Melodias unleashing his power out of rage. Where did you think that it's him releasing all his power? Sounds like headcanon.

Also fragor is mountain level, no point denying that. It's not better than Danafor though which was done by Melodias at a power level of 32000.

And AM Mel has a power level of 142K, High Noon Escanor casually no-sold all his attacks and oneshot him. Assault Mode Melodias was previously casually beating the crap out of Near Noon Escanor and pierced him fully, Galand couldn't even get more than a small cut on him with a mountain level attack.

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@azureus: that's not a mountain. That's a large hill lol. People keep calling dangai Ichigo hill feat, but then turn around and show a hill from another series.

The most you can get from that is city level

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A weaker Meliodas hollowed out a super large mountain the and the second largest kingdom on it. The One Escanor beat a STRONGER version of Mel. How does Ichigo compare?

By slashing Yhwach in half who has Small Country-Country Level durability.

Besides Vasto Lorde Ichigo likely could replicate the crater feat, however, he has smaller AoE

Simply no NNT Character in pure feats can contend with those on Kenpachi's level, let alone Ichigo's.

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@geeman2 said:

Anyways result is the same, Escanor still bodies them both.

Never happening in any way you look at it.

Escanor no-selled an attack from an even stronger Galand, Melodias with a powerlevel of around 41600+ (seeing as that was King's powerlevel at the time and Melodias was using his demon mark) can cause attacks that dwarf cities.

Corand is easily a small city at best with zero tall building considering Mama herself would tower the city in that scan.

Besides, what does that feat even mean? Congrats on dwarfing a small city?

and the shrapnel itself was stated to be moving like 'shooting stars' and if you consider these are characters who can casually lightning time it's pretty impressive.

Uh, there isn't any way to even assume what this means. You're taking a simile and trying to somehow make a speed upgrade when it doesn't work.

This Escanor no-sold 1000 divine slices from Melodias when he had a powerlevel of 142k, morning Escanor can no-sell Mountain level attacks from Galand.

Featless 1000 Divine Slices. Galand has zero mountain level feats.

Morning Escanor could vape Edinburgh castle with his passive heat and Edinburgh castle is larger than the hill that Ichigo vaped.

Cool story, Ichigo only had his arm burned and half of his clothes burned off by Fragor, which vaped through hundreds and hundreds of tons of rock instantaneously, dwarfing the Edinburgh Feat.

So Escanor bodies. 'Featless' Escanor bodies actually, even more embarrassing.

Laughable. Escanor still has zero feats on Ichigo's and Aizen's level.

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@undre: It was 30,000 feet in depth. And this wasn't even impressive to the Ten Commandments who are fodder in comparison now