The Marquis of Death vs. the Dark Monitor

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#1  Edited By Doctor von Doom

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#2  Edited By Leliel

One such as the creator of this would go on to explain both of there powers should he not

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#3  Edited By Nibiru

lol Mandrakk uberstomps.

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#4  Edited By geraldthesloth
Nibiru said:
lol Mandrakk uberstomps.

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#5  Edited By danhimself

no way to know...we don't even know what the Marquis of Death is capable of yet

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#6  Edited By bumnut
danhimself said:
no way to know...we don't even know what the Marquis of Death is capable of yet

Not alot, outside of killing an alt watcher/uatu, wiping out Latveria, dumping Doom in the Pliocene age in the ocean to a feeding frenzie of Megladdones, traverse interdimensionally!






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#7  Edited By Omg chris

the marquies of  death ftw i mean this guy destroyed contless universes like a hot knife on butter then he mind rapes doom(who mind rapes doom though i mean his freakin doom people) into thinking he won and gave him the perfect life where he marries sue then he comes back saying ohh yeah 5 seconds have only gone by that was all fake your body is buring on the floor and ummm im going to feed you to a shark by the way im going to make everyone think im you NOWW DIE..... did i forget to mention he killed a adult watcher XD

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#8  Edited By geraldthesloth

and?

Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant

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#9  Edited By Sparda

Wait...is Doom dead?

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#10  Edited By geraldthesloth
Sparda said:
Wait...is Doom dead?
no.
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#11  Edited By King_Saturn
Mandrakk should win here... it would be an interesting fight though
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#12  Edited By bumnut
geraldthesloth said:
and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant

Plot device, dude. Never showed anything outside of him opening his cape and throwing them on the ground.  Cain/Vandal Savage was hammering both of them also when he had the spear of destiny!
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#13  Edited By Dreadmaster
geraldthesloth said:
Sparda said: Wait...is Doom dead? no. [more]

yes
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#14  Edited By bumnut
dreadmaster said:
geraldthesloth said: Sparda said: Wait...is Doom dead? no. [more] yes [more]

No, not really! From what i've read, I believe this story to be more about Doom than the FF. within the first two issues of this (only?) four issue story, the FF have only appeard a few pages, most of it has been Doom, about him and his Master, who obviously wasn't very pleased with his pupils efforts as a villain of the last twenty years since Doom left his tutilage.  I'm sure Doom's survived worse than Meggladonns!
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#15  Edited By Omg chris
Sparda said:
Wait...is Doom dead?
yes
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#16  Edited By bumnut

And how do you know this?

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#17  Edited By Dreadmaster
bumnut said:
And how do you know this?

Because nothing in the comic implied he survived so for the time being he is pronounced DEAD

God you're making me cry having to reflect on Doom's (apparent) demise "sobs"
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#18  Edited By bumnut
dreadmaster said:
bumnut said: And how do you know this? Because nothing in the comic implied he survived so for the time ... [more]

Easy, dready, don't shed too many tears, he aint gone yet ;-)
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#19  Edited By Dreadmaster
bumnut said:
dreadmaster said: bumnut said: And how do you know this? Because nothing in the comic implied he survived so for ... [more]

I most certainly hope so "sob" he's my favorite villain "sob"
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#20  Edited By bumnut
dreadmaster said:
bumnut said: dreadmaster said: bumnut said: And how do you know this? Because nothing in the comic implied he survived ... [more]

So, don't mean to say 'certainly hope NOT' LoL  If anything, as I stated before, this is more about Doom, and like always, what doesn't break him, only makes him stronger.  He'll confront his master Doom style!
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#21  Edited By geraldthesloth
bumnut said:
geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant Plot device, dude. Never showed anything outside of him opening his cape ... [more]
Not a plot device victory at all!.

Mandrakk had the power of the 52 universes all to himself.
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#22  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
geraldthesloth said:
bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant Plot device, dude. Never showed anything outside of him opening ... [more]
i thought that mandrakk had as much power as the story itself? that he was as powerful as the story of DCU
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#23  Edited By geraldthesloth
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant Plot device, dude. Never showed anything outside of ... [more]
Basically. his powers are a bit hard to describe..But basically Mandrakk was above the concepts of the Multiverse and everything in it
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#24  Edited By Dreadmaster
bumnut said:
dreadmaster said: bumnut said: dreadmaster said: bumnut said: And how do you know this? Because nothing in the comic implied ... [more]

I'LL BE PISSED AT MARVEL IF HE DOESN'T COME BACK
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who wins? no one. Both of them wipe each other out and the universe with it

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#26  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
geraldthesloth said:
DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant Plot device, dude. Never showed anything ... [more]
i can't remember who said it but it was a good idea
mandrakk is the room where the presence exists and it is through mandrakk that his story unfolds
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#27  Edited By geraldthesloth
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant Plot device, dude. Never ... [more]
he has nothing to do with the presence lol.

The Primal Monitor first saw the DCU as a germ to him and Sent Dax Novu(the original monitor) aka Mandrakk to probe it and give him information on this germ. Once he got to the bleed(what keeps all the DCU's universes linked together)he started to feel the evil and feed on the stories of the multiverse as they grew. Making him strong..and The only person that could beat him was Cosmic Armor Superman..Using a Plot Device armor created by Mandrakk himself and his story(The greatest one of them all) to beat him
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#28  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
geraldthesloth said:
DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant Plot device, ... [more]
wait wait i remember who it was who said all this it was you lol, ok i get it again, and btw does superman always beat the threat XD
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#29  Edited By geraldthesloth
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant ... [more]
Of course..At the end of Final Crisis Mandrakk was literally beyond any forms Punishment from anything..Besides the Primal Monitor..The only way Superman was able to finish The second Mandrakk   was by literally wishing for an end to his great story via the Mirale Machine by wishing it for a happy ending
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#30  Edited By bumnut
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and The Radiant ... [more]

It's why he's called SUPERman ;-)
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#31  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
geraldthesloth said:
DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat Spectre and ... [more]
lol i remember that, made me made that really all sups did was click his heels together and say ''let it be ok''
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#32  Edited By geraldthesloth
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: and?Mandrakk beat ... [more]
exactly..Superman is a boss.
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#33  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
geraldthesloth said:
DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: DC_Marvel_1000 said: geraldthesloth said: bumnut said: geraldthesloth said: ... [more]
lol but he will be my fav hero over anyone until they kill him off, he is like many people have said a true hero
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#34  Edited By geraldthesloth

anyways Mandrakk in a curbstomp he's an unfair character to put IN the battle threads because he will ALWAYS win. Unless it's against Cosmic Armored superman

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#35  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
geraldthesloth said:
anyways Mandrakk in a curbstomp he's an unfair character to put IN the battle threads because he will ALWAYS win. ... [more]
very true
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#36  Edited By bumnut
geraldthesloth said:
anyways Mandrakk in a curbstomp he's an unfair character to put IN the battle threads because he will ALWAYS win. ... [more]

No, not really, just how you view him ;-) Dude got staked by GL's in the end, couldn't have been that tough lol
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#37  Edited By geraldthesloth
bumnut said:
geraldthesloth said: anyways Mandrakk in a curbstomp he's an unfair character to put IN the battle threads because he will ... [more]
That doesn't matter Mandrakk was weakened by Superman's great story, Alexander Luthor said everything comes from Superman..Including possibly the greatest superhero story known to man.
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#38  Edited By Doctor von Doom

My apologies on not including some description of their abilities until now. 
 
The Marquis of Death, "the Master of Doom" 
 
-can travel across space, time, and Marvel Universes with seeming ease 
-can summon his own Marvel heroes and villains, which he controls (even some guys like Galactus!)
-can beat up universes 
-can crush a sun with a gesture 
-can destroy a galaxy in a microsecond 
-can turn someone's blood into acid, and their heart into stone 
-can put false perceptions/illusions in one's mind 
-universes experience anguish upon his arrival 
-pyrokinetics    
-can tear out someone's heart 
-wore Doom's mask (HERESY!)
-shoots electricity
 
Mandrakk, the Dark Monitor 
 
-feasts on all kinds of life force (the blood of universes, the Spectre's lifeforce, etc.) 
-can only be destroyed, it seems, in destined battles, like against Superman (the ultimate hero) or the Supermen of the Multiverse    
-seems to be above most conventional harm, as he is from outside the Multiverse itself, making him alike unto Marvel's Living Tribunal 
-is described by silver Metron as a "menace greater than Darkseid"  
-beat the Spectre 
-can make vampire minions of those who join him (Ultraman being the only real example) 
-can possess another Monitor who is willing, like Rox Ogama 
-can only descend into the Multiverse at the Great End, when all is broken and destroyed (not a bad job for the Marquis....) 
-seems to be poisonous
-shoots electricity
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#39  Edited By Doctor von Doom

Also Mandrakk has an army of wretched evil shadows, creatures, and giant black warships, approximately 70 miles long.  These are basically ignored in Final Crisis 7, however.  So much for the Ultimate Battle.
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#40  Edited By czarny_samael666

TMOD.
He can summon dozens MU to this fight.

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#41  Edited By G-w-D

I Wonder how many times did MoD destroy cosmic entities during his travels
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#42  Edited By King_Saturn
lets go with Dark Monitor
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#43  Edited By Shadowstep

I don't see how anyone could beat a reality-warping Mutant with complete mastery over time and space who can take literally total control over beings like Eternity, Galactus, Thanos, Odin, (who were all seen being used by the younger Clyde Wyncham), Ego, Master Hate, Mistress Love (who looks as if she is expecting...I didn't know Abstracts could physically have children...odd) and use them as weapons against his enemies.
 

 
 

 
 
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#44  Edited By King_Saturn
@Shadowstep said:
" I don't see how anyone could beat a reality-warping Mutant with complete mastery over time and space who can take literally total control over beings like Eternity, Galactus, Thanos, Odin, (who were all seen being used by the younger Clyde Wyncham), Ego, Master Hate, Mistress Love (who looks as if she is expecting...I didn't know Abstracts could physically have children...odd) and use them as weapons against his enemies.
 
 
 

 
 
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Mandrakk is a Reality Warper too thats on a Multiversal Scale... so it isnt as one sided as you think
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#45  Edited By Johnny_Nemesis

Dark Monitor rather easily

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#47  Edited By Soratoumiga

What an old thread, also Clyde stomps.

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Doom stomps both tbh

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There's no way Universal to Universal+ level stand a single chance against Multiversal+++++ being