Blood lusted to the death.
The Marquis of Death VS Cosmic Armour Superman
@giojoestar: MoD after years of venturing space only learned how to warp reality on a Universal scale as he says so himself over here.
He was only Universal, he literally admits it himself.
Also, are you seriously suggesting that the likes of Thanos, Odin and Galactus were able to significantly weaken MoD while he was using abstract beings who you claim are Multiversal? yeah no buddy, he was using Universal abstracts who barely stood up to beings like Galactus, Odin and Thanos lol, beings who CaS would pimpslap without even noticing or breaking a sweat.
nothing in the scan mentions or even states that the marquis of death caps at the universal scale ,
No, it shows that after becoming MoD, he was only able to master time and space on a Universal scale, as he uses the term "reality" to define his journey, which is a Universal feat lol.
in fact the scan even shows clyde wyncham who is the younger version of the marquis of death knocking out both molecule man and a watcher whom are both universal constants upon his awakening.
Show me a single scan of his realities Molecule man and Watcher performing Universal feats and I will concede.
I don't see how clyde conquering time and space as admitting he is only universal tbh.
He conquered time and space in his own reality after billions of years, how is that not clear enough?
I'm not suggesting odin, galactus, nor thanos were able to weaken the marquis of death, nothing even indicates that those universal abstracts were able to barely hold their own against them,
Wdym? he literally says he was weakened in the next panel.
they were nothing but pawns in their interdimensional battle,
Yeah, the same "pawns" managed to weaken him to the point where he got rekt by Human Torch going planck temp, he couldn't even get up after that, are you seriously suggesting that Galactus, Odin and Thanos have the power to do that but not CaS who is definitely Multiversal?
for all we know clyde could have spawned other beings that are on the same level as the abstarcts.
We never saw it happen, there's absolutely no reason to believe it happened because it didn't happen.
It was all clyde that weakened the marquis of death, not galactus or odin,
Not really, they did not use their own powers to fight, they used the powers of other beings to fight, which is why he called it an interdimensional battle, if they used their own powers, there would be no reason to show them controlling those beings.
which likely suggests that his past self is not far from his current level.
He literally spent billions of years for a reason...
I claimed an m body of eternity to be multiversal yes whilst showing proof of it,
We go by current showings, current Eternity (m-bodies) are not Multiversal, they are children of the real Eternity who are only Universal, and this has been the case for centuries now.
and even then odin as well as galactus are not far from multiversal levels.
Lol. Do you even know what Multiversal is?
Galactus is on the same level as the celestials,
The same Celestials who got rekt by their own creation and the Necro sword? both of which are not even Universal? yes yes, very powerful indeed.
these same celestials are more powerful than kubik
That doesn't apply anymore and it never did if we go by feats, statements don't mean anything when the same Celestials constantly get rekt by Universal beings such as FR.
whose battle with the super adaptoid would have shredded all of existence extending to infinite dimensions and adjacent universes.
Again, thats a statement, he never fought Kubik, he simply stated what would happen which is not reliable whatsoever since Super Adaptoid had never demonstrated htat kind of power in his entire run.
Cosmic armor superman does slap still yes
Cool.
No, it shows that after becoming MoD, he was only able to master time and space on a Universal scale, as he uses the term "reality" to define his journey, which is a Universal feat lol.
it wasn't on a universal scale though, you see all those parallel earths/realities? he was conquering space and time in general which refers to the multiverse and he was doing it while he was clyde
Show me a single scan of his realities Molecule man and Watcher performing Universal feats and I will concede.
I said that they were universal constants, as in that they are necessary in the universe but anywho here's a scan stating that the watchers and the celestials have been engaged in a war for countless of millenia in every level of existence http://2.bp.blogspot.com/wsFxXYCpB2hNBb_nJS4ki0kNmae8_ytxkNo6TN2hNwl1GfMZcHm43R3jOtwsQ6fUfJNsakTKZhgm=s1600
since this was molecule man that existed in the 2000's era, its safe to say this was the cosmic cube molecule man and non sentient cosmic cubes at the hands of others are capable of restoring a crumbling multiverse https://imgur.com/a/Mz0pD, if you want more refer to the trans multiversal feat since that too was a cosmic cube molecule man, it was also stated by kubik that he and and molecule man are equal https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23992/4740182-ff-an%2327-50.jpg, here's another scan showing the beyond verse in kubiks hand http://2.bp.blogspot.com/8AEAEELXsjafaWXnmx2TdLrbsqxsW6lF2T_OwqL1Qx7edoc2C7AJL8fgap1WECFODwv2whHzWxNi=s1600
He conquered time and space in his own reality after billions of years, how is that not clear enough?
Time and space was referring to the multiverse in that scan, proof is you can see multiple realities/earths, how did you even misinterpret the scan?
Wdym? he literally says he was weakened in the next panel.
Actually read the whole sentence before replying with something unrelated to what I said
Yeah, the same "pawns" managed to weaken him to the point where he got rekt by Human Torch going planck temp, he couldn't even get up after that, are you seriously suggesting that Galactus, Odin and Thanos have the power to do that but not CaS who is definitely Multiversal?
Again as I said they weren't the ones who weakened him, do you see them fight the marquis of death? No, they were only fighting the pawns who the marquis of death was controlling. It would make much more sense for clyde to be the one who weakened the marquis of death as they were the ones behind the battle. Yet I've never even said nor brought up cosmic armor superman so how did you even come up with that conclusion?
We never saw it happen, there's absolutely no reason to believe it happened because it didn't happen.
Yet we never even saw the abstracts fight against odin or galactus, so how can you say that the universal abstracts barely stood up to beings like Galactus, Odin and Thanos.
Not really, they did not use their own powers to fight, they used the powers of other beings to fight, which is why he called it an interdimensional battle, if they used their own powers, there would be no reason to show them controlling those beings.
then how do you suggest clyde got knocked out? its called an interdimensional battle because they were fighting in another dimension while their physical bodies remained in the universe were they ecountered each other, having control of other beings aren't their only powers, besides the fight only lasted 2 pages so what's there to assume that they weren't using their own powers against each other
He literally spent billions of years for a reason...
There's wasn't any specific reason behind it, he only crisscrossed the multiverse and after so many years he turned into the marquis of death, there's mention of him needing to take time for him to gain as much power as he is as the marquis of death
We go by current showings, current Eternity (m-bodies) are not Multiversal, they are children of the real Eternity who are only Universal, and this has been the case for centuries now.
Can you show proof that the m bodies as of today are nowhere near multiversal? m bodies of eternity are the personifications of the universe, doesn't mean that they have power only on a universal scale, superman's physical structure is the same as those of humans, doesn't mean that his only limited to the norms of human capabilities. So far I've proven through scaling that m bodies of eternity do have multiversal ap since there wasn't a totality of eternity back then, as proof here kubik and kosmos outgrew eternity which was then living universe and crossed the fourth dimensional barrier https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-20e007b088e63b967bec980cceeeb1d4.webp. True eternity is omniversal while m bodies of eternity are multiversal in ap, simple as that
Lol. Do you even know what Multiversal is?
Any problem with what I said?
The same Celestials who got rekt by their own creation and the Necro sword? both of which are not even Universal? yes yes, very powerful indeed.
lol any fictional character are susceptible to low ends or even pis, humant torch even disintegrated nyx the multiversal embodiment of the dark, celestials are no exception. Fact is celestials possess transfinite levels of power as stated by kubik https://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Inf.jpg and I've already shown how powerful kubik is. How is the necrosword not even universal?
That doesn't apply anymore and it never did if we go by feats, statements don't mean anything when the same Celestials constantly get rekt by Universal beings such as FR
You mean franklin richards? only universal? lol. Here's a respect thread of franklin richards, its a long read but this consistently puts franklin far above universal https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:The_2nd_Existential_Seed/Franklin_Richards_Respect_Thread#Another_Scaling_M
Again, thats a statement, he never fought Kubik, he simply stated what would happen which is not reliable whatsoever since Super Adaptoid had never demonstrated htat kind of power in his entire run.
Again, kubik=molecule man who performed a trans multiversal feat so it's not too farfetched to say that the supposed feat would've been possible
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