@laflux: Nice breakdown.
Bumping an old thread but screw it, want to put my 2 cents in.
Lizard’s superior agility & strength will give Wolverine some real trouble, but you gotta keep in mind Logan has the durability and skill advantage... as well as offensive output.
Yes Lizard has his own healing factor, but if he gets tagged in a vital area it’s going to hurt him a hell of a lot more than Wolvie.
I honestly only think Wolverine would walk away with a minute majority if he falls back on his skill and that would be something after the general thrashing he would receive and potentially dish out. Reason being the only way Logan generally bests people statistically higher than him is his skill, damage soak, and damage output. But when he falls back on the former, it just supplements his stats and allows him to get hits he normally not get off or as many. Case and point his fights with the likes of Gorgon, Kaine, Spider-Man, and Sabretooth etc. Sabretooth used to thrash Logan and once Wolverine started relying on MA abilities and teachings, Creed became a non factor. Spider-Man wasn't always the greatest fighter and despite his physical advantage, Logan kept up due to superior combat skill to supplement his speed. Wolverine vs the Gorgon. Tomi was kicking the crap out of Logan, but Logan was still able to pull out some solid shots, but Gorgon was also faster, stronger (albeit a slim margin), but he also had telepathy, and was virtually more skilled than Logan given that Wolverine said it was useless trying to match skill with him. He only won when Gorgon got cocky and tried to use his stone gaze, but Logan was smart and used the metal surface of his claws to reflect the light back. Kaine is even more physically dominant than Parker and has his own solid skill feats due to his ability to use his statistics in a proper manner to where he can battle teams of highly trained assassins consisting of someone as strong as he is, someone faster, someone with loads of weapons etc, and since giving into the Other and his battle with Logan, he was stronger and faster than Wolverine. But he did also did mention Logan was quite fast himself and he almost disemboweled him in the first second of the fight, but also to be fair, Logan got the shot on Kaine's face with what seemed like a grazing blow considering in the following issue, Jean did tell Logan to play along with the fight so he wasn't exactly trying to kill Kaine either, but given Kaine's dialogue, he was probably surprised by how Logan was doing due to his durability and ferocity.
Anyways, despite all these guys being physically different, they all share the fact they outclass Logan in virtually all aspects or most with him having an edge in something like skill save for the Gorgon. The lizard outclasses Logan by a considerable margin, but he lacks the skill Logan does and I would go on and say Logan has a better damage soak. If he comes into this going hail Mary and just swinging away he will lose. Lizard has attacks that range from a decently high grade of blunt force damage due to him being stronger and faster than Spider-Man,(although Logan can tank more than his strength level), but he also has ways to do considerable piercing damage given his claws and teeth. Lizard isn't exactly bringing something into this fight Logan hasn't dealt with. But the problem it is all rolled into one package. So while the fight will definitely be brutal and long, Logan can't come in going "derp, derp *slash, tank*" or being on his high horse and not willing to kill people (dammit Humphries!) because he will be screwed. Lizard could get him in a position like holding him with his tail by the neck or arms and gnaw on his head will disemboweling the hairy midget. He has the repertoire and tools to do some massive damage. So Logan needs to come into this knowing he is outclassed and that he can't afford to screw up and has to go for broke and use his willingness to kill. Lizard and him will have a long drawn out battle, but unless he does something like stab him in the heart and twist the claws for extra slushiness or go for the brain, he is in trouble. He needs to use his skill edge and dance a bit, show some o dat footwork. He can't treat this guy like a brick and tank a punch and slash. He can do that but he needs to make his shots count.
Logan would have to be this nerfed for Lizard to even stand a chance... homefield advantage and fodder for distraction is about the only way i can ever see Curt taking a majority over Wolverine and even then its slim
Logan was already fast enough to doge Lizard before... so not sure why speed is being brought up when they have fought a few times and Logan has never struggled to tag him
@jay_z94: Yes I have read many kid. Wolverine will get swarmed and drowned if every gator in that swamp closed in on him on top of Lizard already beating him.
Name me a couple of these comics you've read.
What makes you think Lizard would beat him in the first place?
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