The Living Tribunal vs Featherine Augustus Aurora

@firsthunter: He is the Supreme judge of the marvel multiverse.

But is vastly inferior to several people.

@firsthunter: Can you name those people?

Pre-Retcon Beyonder,Pre-Retcon Molecule Man, HOTU Thanos,Ivory Kings etc.

@firsthunter: Those aren't current tho. The first 2 have been retconned. So they no longer have their classic powerlevels. HOTU isn't current either, plus it was TOAA's powers. They weren't his own. Finally the ivory kings no longer exist. They were destroyed by doom,molecule man, and doctor strange.

@flakeking:

You act like if something isn't current it doesn't count. That's just not true.

Anyway LT was recently killed by Master Order and Lord Chaos.

@firsthunter: They don't count because none of those characters can no longer beat him lol. Him being killed by order and chaos was complete PIS. If order and chaos can kill him the writers are basically telling us Lifebringer Galactus>>>Order and Chaos>>>>>New LT. Which is really insane.

@flakeking:

They don't count because none of those characters can no longer beat him lol

Based on what? There's no evidence LT's power levels really changed.

@firsthunter: Can you post scans of order and chaos killing LT.

@firsthunter: You're right about that. But there is evidence as to Molecule Man's and Beyonders powerlevels changing. Molecule Man was beaten by sentry which is PIS but still. Beyonder is now a Inhuman with the power of half a cosmic cube.

@flakeking:

Molecule Man was beaten by sentry which is PIS

Then it's non applicable. Also I'm fairly sure Molecule Man wanted to lose.

@firsthunter: How did he want to lose?

@flakeking:

He just wanted to lose AFAIK

@flakeking: @firsthunter:

Just as a reference to the events that have taken place in the recent Ultimates 2 issues, it's explained in the issues themselves why Order and Chaos were able to kill the Living Tribunal.

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The first image is from Ultimates 2 #2 and the the rest are from Ultimates 2 #3.

@fiendishmind:The words are too small. So what did they say?

I hate when it does that to images.

Here I chopped it up, hopefully the text is of a more legible size.

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@fiendishmind: Thanks, but I personally don't agree on LT being killed. Bad writing.

The only reason they were able to do that is because the abstract hierarchy is in flux due to the fact they just reformed, none of the abstracts are operating at their usual levels. Ewing laid out the context pretty clearly and was hinting at this in the first Ultimates series.

@fiendishmind: Oh thanks for the info.

Spite

Nigh-omnipotent battles are just as stupid as OAA battles. The only difference between a nigh omnipotent and a true omnipotent, is whether or not there is a bigger fish. Nigh-omnis are basically interchangeable, the only thing that makes one nigh omni more powerful than another is ABC logic which 9/10 is simply not applicable when applied to other stories with a differently structured cosmology.

@mrx1122: Thanos also created infinite amount of realities in infinity finale and warlock(who is basically the new LT) was beyond him.

@chad_duby: Featherine pulled out author authority/narration on a being that easily destroyed countless of fragments (each fragment being as big as a catbox and each catbox generates infinite universes (multiverse) and stomped her with a pen and paper

Featherine: "This is where you lose to me and die."

One story at least, contains characters an infinite number of universes/layers ect... One of these stories would only rate one book/fragment in Featherine's "city of books"/endless library. Featherine also completely transcended this realm and reached the realm of the omnipotent, omniscient creator and "touched" the last boundary without becoming it completely

"フェザリーヌ・アウグストゥス・アウローラ。?魔女の域を極め過ぎて、造物主の域にまで達し、?

Featherine Augustus Aurora.? She who had go through beyond the end of the domain of Witch, arrive at the domain of The Creator,?"

Didn't the Living Tribunal get killed?

Featherine stomps. Once again,if u aren't toaa or egd,you pretty much loses.

@bdelloidgrain2: A few times from what I remember or at least lower than a few characters way back.

@kilgpmktra: Honestly, I agree that Featherine would win. People overhype him a lot and (in my opinion) he is pretty overrated.

@kilgpmktra:

None of that implies that she distroyed anything more than uncountably many universes. Not saying who wins just pointing that out.

Off topic: In that scan, did that loli die?

Lol

@harrisonmesko: Well, while the two loli witches were fighting in the city of books, they were destroying part of the library and Featherine shows up and effortlessly repairs the books (endless fragments) they destroyed. Featherine also completely rules this realm and she's infinitely above the beings that were destroying parts of it

And yes, she does die as Featherine wrote it.

She even asks how did she die and Featherine was like "lol, I'll think about that later"

Poor loli.

@harrisonmesko:

She brings her back ^^

@kilgpmktra: k, thanks for a scan.

Nah I wouldn’t even stalemate this Featherine Definitely takes this she has Plot Manipulation

@flakeking: regardless he still a loser weather plot induced stupidity he somehow llost

Classic LT is not only second to TOAA but he also is the entire Marvel verse with everything in it all the Multiversal+ Entities that reside are a part of him don't get me wrong FAA is no Pushover but the LT is entirely to much for her

the LT takes that ugly Tiara off her Head and beats her with it

@alex_odinson:

We already been through this Alex. You’re copying what Melo was saying.

Classic LT’s best feat isn’t even what you’re describing.

The Living Tribunal is inferior to Pre-Retcon Beyonder, a dimensioned being. Featherine stomps.

you do Realize that the Marvel Verse is Completely Infinite and entertwined with other Verses (the Beyonder and the Beyonders) and Extra Dimensions (the Dark Dimension and Shoma Gorath Dimension) and all of these are INFINITE in and out with INFINTE Version of each in INFINITE Universes and Stories even the MCU is a part of the Marvel Universe and the LT Embodies ALL of it just as The One Above All intended

@alex_odinson: You're preaching to the choir dude.

a multiverse in Marvel = endless levels of infinity. The beyonder realm is simply another multiverse.

Featherine pretty much laughs at that.

No. Both LT and Featherine are at the level of second smallest infinity. Unless someone has more authority over reality (impossible to compare in crossover battles) they should stalemate.

Edit: nevermind every 'infinite dimension' in marvel meant infinite universes. Featherine should stomp.

@nathanielfern: Boi....