The Joker vs Lex Luthor

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#1  Edited By Aseptic

who wins?

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#2  Edited By Teufelherz

thats easy The Joker

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#3  Edited By The Informant

Joker everytime, Luthor doesn't have the advantage of being totally insane.

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#4  Edited By The Informant

Joker everytime, Luthor doesn't have the advantage of being totally insane.

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#5  Edited By Spectrum

Realistically Luthor, hes got the money and the know how, yes I'd love to say Jokeer but i dont think so

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#6  Edited By LegendaryKYJ

The Informant says:

"Joker everytime, Luthor doesn't have the advantage of being totally insane."

Luthor knows when to get serious, Joker is so dead.

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I'm pretty sure this happened in an animated movie. Joker betrayed Lex, kidnapped him and started leveling Metropolis with a giant flying wing that fired thousands of missiles. It was glorious.

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#8  Edited By warlock360

a mad man is seriously more dangerous than a normal one. Joker wins

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#9  Edited By Barry Flash

Yeah, Lex with all that money he could just get loads of his own Insane people. It would be hard though seens as Joker is so smart and thinks everything out, but then Lex does.

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#10  Edited By Kraven

I'd say Lex in the sense that he'd find a way to manipulate and out-smart the Joker. It wouldn't be easy because Joker although insane, is also very smart; but Lex is used to having to match wits with other intellects. If it was an unarmed fist fight in a prison, I'd still give it to Lex because he works out and has martial arts training.

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#11  Edited By Sling Shot

They are both Mad Men they just have different dramatic esthetiques. Lex is more socially functional than Joker but still mad. ex's armament is made to combat Supes and Joker Bats.Upperhand Lex.

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Yeah... Lex wins. Joker may be more insane than Lex, but whats insanity when ur going up against a semi mad man, who is a billonaire, not to mention a genious.
Post Edited:2007-10-31 20:49:44

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#13  Edited By crazy spidey

the Jokester always has a trick up his sleeve

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#14  Edited By crazy spidey

King of Kings says:

"So does Lex. Luthor wins. "

well I'm sure he had alot of prep time for that

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#15  Edited By The_Ghostshell

So does Lex. Luthor wins.

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#16  Edited By Donnieman v5.1

King of Kings says:

"I just like seeing Wonder Woman and Black Canary all tied up :P"

So do I, so do I :P

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#17  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Lmao, he had a tone of help. I just like seeing Wonder Woman and Black Canary all tied up :P

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#18  Edited By crazy spidey

King of Kings says:

"Lmao, he had a tone of help. I just like seeing Wonder Woman and Black Canary all tied up :P"

lol, ur right. Screw this topic, I like the ladies

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#19  Edited By The_Ghostshell

LMFAO. D remember that one time we stayed up till like 3am posting in that famous chick thread? Hahahaha, good times.

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#20  Edited By Donnieman v5.1

King of Kings says:

"LMFAO. D remember that one time we stayed up till like 3am posting in that famous chick thread? Hahahaha, good times."

Yup, those chicks were fine as hell man. Good times I tell ya, the good 'ol days.

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#21  Edited By The Dave

This has actually already happened.

Lex can't handle the Joker at all. The guy just turned up in his limo and offers to kill Superman,
and freaking Batman has to save Supes,
Later he betrays lex and flies around blowing stuff up while Lex is tied up watching.

I give this to Joker

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#22  Edited By AtPhantom
@The Dave said:
" This has actually already happened.Lex can't handle the Joker at all. The guy just turned up in his limo and offers to kill Superman, and freaking Batman has to save Supes,Later he betrays lex and flies around blowing stuff up while Lex is tied up watching.I give this to Joker "
Wasn't that in the cartoon?
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#23  Edited By The Dave
@AtPhantom said:
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@The Dave said:
" This has actually already happened.Lex can't handle the Joker at all. The guy just turned up in his limo and offers to kill Superman, and freaking Batman has to save Supes,Later he betrays lex and flies around blowing stuff up while Lex is tied up watching.I give this to Joker "
Wasn't that in the cartoon? "
Yup, versions of Joker & Lex weren't specified
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#24  Edited By AtPhantom

If they weren't specified then we use the mainstream comic versions. Lex can kill the Joker whenever he wants.

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#26  Edited By WindCloud

Lex would win.  An organized evil is always more dangerous than a chaotic evil.  With the Joker, you already know that he's a nutcase.  But with Lex, you would never know if he's playing friendly or being for real.  He's cool and calculating, while Joker is expected to lose his cool.  Another example is comparing Lex to a mob figure, while the Joker is like a regular street thug.  i  would say the mob figure is smarter and more dangerous.

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#27  Edited By MKF30

Going to have to go with Lex....arguably the smartest villian in comics(or at least smartest human villian) which is even more impressive outsmarting the JL, Superman, other villians at times etc. Joker is a joke in comparison(no pun intended) but Lex wouldn't let Joker get near him if he didn't want to. Both are human, one is just psychotic and out of his mind. The other is a smart, keen and evil sociapath.

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#28  Edited By ARMIV

Lex Luthor.

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#29  Edited By Aronmorales

Luthor.

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#30  Edited By Omg chris

joker

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#31  Edited By Spawn Godslayer

Lex... Dispite the money.. He's a smart fellow..

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#33  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Lex in every possible way but being a nut job

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#34  Edited By chunjacktao

I don't even think they are in the same league here.
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#35  Edited By Ziro

Without a battle-suit? Joker.
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#36  Edited By FLCL1

joker
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... Is this in a hand-to-hand battle or is there prep time??? 
With Prep time: Luthor 
Without: Joker
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#38  Edited By DedmanWalkin

In most battles, mainstream character versions are used with standard equipment. Lex is a respectable dude in a suit while Joker is a dude in a suit with a revolver, an electric joy buzzer, an acid flower, and Joker gas. Joker is better equipped for death at all times than Lex Luthor.

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#39  Edited By inferiorego  Staff

  ...    

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#40  Edited By why so serious
@chunjacktao said:
" I don't even think they are in the same league here. "
yea.  Lex destroys him.
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#41  Edited By rondoudou

@WindCloud said:

Lex would win. An organized evil is always more dangerous than a chaotic evil. With the Joker, you already know that he's a nutcase. But with Lex, you would never know if he's playing friendly or being for real. He's cool and calculating, while Joker is expected to lose his cool. Another example is comparing Lex to a mob figure, while the Joker is like a regular street thug. i would say the mob figure is smarter and more dangerous.

not really chaos is far more dangerous since you NEVER know what might happen and havent you read jokers last laugh that when he got serious.......

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#42  Edited By Goku1fan

@Teufelherz said:

thats easy The Joker

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#43  Edited By PurpleCandy

@Gambler said:

So does Lex. Luthor wins.

Sorry to bumb an age old thread but man the writers or illustrators obviously did that on purpose

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#44  Edited By Skaddix

Luthor.

As for Lawful Evil vs Chaotic Evil. Lawful Evil builds empires. Chaotic it depends on how much raw power.

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#45  Edited By trollinator

Joker

Joker is pure evil, then again the same can be said about Lex Luthor, but Joker carries guns. He could shoot Luthor dead.

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#46  Edited By Epicbeast3000

The thing about joker is, he never dies. He always comes back. He can cheat death. Lex is not really insane, but he is power hungry to the point is reaches insanity. Lex could win if he has prep, but joker will come back. Joker would win without prep.

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#47  Edited By entropy_aegis

@PurpleCandy said:

@Gambler said:

So does Lex. Luthor wins.

Sorry to bumb an age old thread but man the writers or illustrators obviously did that on purpose

It's EdBenes so yes it was intentional.

@trollinator said:

Joker

Joker is pure evil, then again the same can be said about Lex Luthor, but Joker carries guns. He could shoot Luthor dead.

Luthor keeps his power suit close,he can wear it like the symbiote.Luthor stomps.

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#48  Edited By Dextersinister

@Epicbeast3000 said:

The thing about joker is, he never dies. He always comes back. He can cheat death. Lex is not really insane, but he is power hungry to the point is reaches insanity. Lex could win if he has prep, but joker will come back. Joker would win without prep.

That's plot armour and both characters have it but it isn't worth anything on the battles forum, the fact that it is far more noticeable with the Joker to such an extent that he has the trope named after him shows what an ineffective character he is when PIS is factored out.

The Joker doesn't come close to Luthor mentally and wouldn't stand up to him physically. The randomness factor is a weakness and not a strength, the only way you can be unpredictable to a strategist like Lex or Batman is to take the crap option.

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#49  Edited By Epicbeast3000

@Dextersinister:

I don't know,in technical terms or by logic Lex wins. But the way joker is portrayed, he is just far more scarier.

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#50  Edited By Dextersinister

@Epicbeast3000 said:

@Dextersinister:

I don't know,in technical terms or by logic Lex wins. But the way joker is portrayed, he is just far more scarier.

The Joker is a scarier character because he goes after everyday folk like me and you with no rhyme or reason but it's nothing really to do with how effective he is.