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Poll The Hulk VS The Juggernaut and The Thing (81 votes)

The Hulk 31%
Team (The Juggernaut and The Thing) 69%

The Hulk VS The Juggernaut and The Thing

The Juggernaut (Cain Marko) and The Thing (Ben Grimm) are on a team. The Hulk is Dr. Bruce Banner.

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Juggs could solo. Thing can give him a fight. Together it's a stomp.

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@takenstew22: Thanks for your answer bro :-) I've seen your answers before and you are very knowledgeable on things

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@takenstew22: Yeah I had a feeling that The Juggernaut on his own would already be a tough match for The Hulk so to have The Thing on the same team as The Juggernaut could be too much for The Hulk however I thought maybe The Hulk could go the next level because sometimes people say he doesn't have a limit to his power so if he gets angry enough he could beat The Juggernaut and The Thing...maybe

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@takenstew22: How about the teamwork aspect of it e.g. Ben Grimm's personality might clash with Cain's personality and they might not get along well with each other when planning or working together to beat the Hulk? Ben is a heroic person so fights on the good side whereas Cain is different and he could get angry and he could disrupt the teamwork

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@arranvid said:

@takenstew22: Yeah I had a feeling that The Juggernaut on his own would already be a tough match for The Hulk so to have The Thing on the same team as The Juggernaut could be too much for The Hulk however I thought maybe The Hulk could go the next level because sometimes people say he doesn't have a limit to his power so if he gets angry enough he could beat The Juggernaut and The Thing...maybe

That makes no sense. If you think Juggs is a match for Hulk on his own then why add Thing? It just makes the match a stomp. If the "next level" is what you're referring to WBH, then Hulk stomps instead if he can use that form.

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Juggernaut solos.

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Didn't IH just kick Jugg's ass?

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#8  Edited By TakenStew22

@supremegeneration said:

Didn't IH just kick Jugg's ass?

I heard current Juggs ain't as strong as he used to be, but idk.

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@takenstew22: None of the writers at marvel don't know what to do with Juggs.

Juggernaut Power scale.

  • 0.5 - 5% = The Juggernaut that fought with King Hyprion and current Juggernauts level.
  • 10 - 20% = the original Normal Juggernaut (morals on / making jokes and cracking insults)
  • 20 - 30% = the original Juggernaut (morals on / serious:::: 1st Day Juggernaut)
  • 30 - 40% = the original Juggernaut (morals on / angry::: 8th Day Juggernaut)
  • 40 - 50% = the original Juggernaut (morals on / hate is starting to kick in)
  • 50 - 60% = the original Juggernaut (morals slowly giving away)
  • 60 - 70% = the original Juggernaut (morals are at critical condition, Cain is loosing his mind)
  • 70 - 80% = the original Juggernaut (morals are off = Trion Juggernaut)
  • 80 - 90% = the original Juggernaut (bloodlusted = Trion Juggernaut getting bigger as he tears through realities)
  • 90 - 100% = the original Juggernaut (bloodlusted Cyttorak fully possessed Juggernaut with only 1/8 of the power of the Gem.)

The depowered Juggernaut that fought with Rhino had to be at the one digit %

about 5% of the power of the Gem. This Juggernaut was the same that fought with WWH the 1st time. He was depowered. Though this Juggernaut was still able to get injured, he heals and regenerates the instant he is injured.

The Juggernaut that fought with Thor and the New Warriors was in between 10% to 20%

Juggernaut took the fight as a joke at 1st, but when he got serious, he nearly killed Thor if not for the help of the New Warriors. After a bit of distractions, Thor ended up summoning a portal to Limbo with Firestar's help. Juggernaut was completely invulnerable, even after Thor negated Juggernuat's forcefield, Juggernaut was still able to tank Thor's bloodlusted hits. (and the Godblast)

20% to 30% range is when Juggernaut was serious during the 1st Day of the Examplar Saga.

Thor pretty much stood no chance against a serious minded Juggernaut.

40%-50% Juggernaut is able to do impossible things and fight against abstract cosmic entities and extradimensional deities.

He fought with Nightmare who was larger than Earth and shrunk him down.

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50% to 60% is when Juggernaut really wants to show off his power with the little bit of morals he has left in him.

Cyttorak as displayed as a 100 foot giant trying to stir up Cain to feel hate and more hate to test the potential of Cain's will to control his powers.

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60% to 70%: Juggernaut is able to rip through the fabrics of space, time, reality.

70% to 80%: Trion Juggernaut

The reality destroyer.

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The full Power of the Crimson Gem is 12% of a fraction of a fraction of one aspect of Cyttorak.

That means the Trion Juggernaut was merely 12% of one aspect of Cyttorak and was able to cause devastation to the multiverse. Just think about 100% of that one aspect and then add that up with 100% of ALL other of his aspects.

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@supremegeneration said:

Didn't IH just kick Jugg's ass?

I heard current Juggs ain't as strong as he used to be, but idk.

He’s not getting power from Cyttorak anymore. But from the bands of cyttorak. Simply put he’s not Cyttorak’s avatar.

Maybe he’ll fine a way to get buffed or forcibly draw more power from Cyttorak. Cause the miniseries was awesome and I’m hoping Juggs stays a hero.

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@supremegeneration said:

Didn't IH just kick Jugg's ass?

I heard current Juggs ain't as strong as he used to be, but idk.

Juggs had a mini series last year and few characters pointed out that he's a lot weaker than he used to be.

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Hulk solos

He has already proven to be superior to Juggernaut and Thing

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@alonis3612: scan, proof, evidence? WWH couldn't beat Juggy at his classic level, he had to BFR him into a lake.

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Juggy has a better record over Hulk overall in the comics as well overall.

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#14  Edited By TakenStew22

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scan, proof, evidence? WWH couldn't beat Juggy at his classic level, he had to BFR him into a lake.

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Juggy has a better record over Hulk overall in the comics as well overall.

He also almost broke Savage Hulk's neck once. Classic Juggs ain't no joke, he's even laughed off Mjolnir attacks.

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team easily juggernaut can and has solod.

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Juggernaut isn't soloing shit. Hulk would beat either in very tough fights 1v1, but against both at the same time he gets stomped.

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@intentdebatthor:You have not demonstrated in any way how hulk can win. Gamma rays? no effect. "planet breaking" punches? really? nope, you're not beating juggernaut with physical attacks. Read a comic with juggernaut in it.

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@the_happy_wendingo: That was Professor Hulk and Juggernaut lost the rematch.

OT: If this is Savage Hulk, he gets beaten up.

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He also almost broke Savage Hulk's neck once.

When did that happen?

Classic Juggs ain't no joke

He was about equal to Thor and Savage Hulk strength-wise, nothing special. Especially considering that Hulk has become significantly stronger since then.

he's even laughed off Mjolnir attacks.

That's because he had his force field.. He no longer has it.

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@alonis3612: scan, proof, evidence?

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Hulk is stated to be much stronger than Juggernaut and Cain confirms it.

WWH couldn't beat Juggy

No proof of that.

at his classic level

No proof he was at his classic levels, in fact his showing against WWH suggests that he was much stronger than he was in his classic days.

Juggy has a better record over Hulk overall in the comics as well overall.

How so?

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@intentdebatthor:You have not demonstrated in any way how hulk can win. Gamma rays? no effect. "planet breaking" punches? really? nope, you're not beating juggernaut with physical attacks. Read a comic with juggernaut in it.

"you're not beating Juggernaut with physical attacks". You mean like Professor Hulk didn't beat him with physical attacks? Or like War Hulk didn't? Or unworthy Thor when Juggernaut was amped? Or Immortal Hulk? Or Thing, while barely conscious and against amped Juggernaut? Or Deadpool with a cement truck? Or Frost Giants with a bazooka? Or hell, Juggernaut himself?

Muh immune to physical attacks.

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Thing solos and takes out Juggernaut afterwards

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Muh immune to physical attacks.

Bruh lmfao these scans were the first thing that came to my mind lmfao

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Is this just regular save hulk or devil hulk?

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@takenstew22 said:

He also almost broke Savage Hulk's neck once.

When did that happen?

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Hulk picked him up and he (kinda) got BFR'd afterwards, but still.

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@takenstew22: juggs says the hulks attacks are getting weaker well juggs is getting stronger which would lead one to believe that there is some context behind this

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Team, both can give Hulk trouble individually

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@alphamon said:

Is this just regular save hulk or devil hulk?

Regular save Hulk :-)

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@alonis3612: Equal to Thor? thats a good one.

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Thor has always had to BFR when confronted against Juggs.

Granted Hulk can be stronger than Juggs, but every time he fought him he had to BFR him, he can't put him down completely and it took Thors magic to get past his forcefields which Hulk doesn't have access to, also Hulk can't put Juggernaut down completely ever.

His regeneration and healing ability is even better than Hulks

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So either Hulk bfrs him after a couple of hours of fighting or Juggernaut overpowers him before he gets to that strength.

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Not worth responding to your lowball gag feats, we can go both ways there if you want.

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Hulk is Banner? Either solos

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The duo.

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@alphamon said:

@takenstew22: juggs says the hulks attacks are getting weaker well juggs is getting stronger which would lead one to believe that there is some context behind this

Don't think so considering the next page lets us remember than angrier = stronger.

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As someone who hasn’t read Marvel since Jurgens Thor run, what is the deal with current Juggernaut??

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Non jobbing Juggs can solo. Thing can occasionally solo.

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As someone who hasn’t read Marvel since Jurgens Thor run, what is the deal with current Juggernaut??

He may or may not be weakened considering he no longer is connected to Cyttorak. He admitted Immortal Hulk was far stronger than him, he was hurt by Quicksand (which disproves people saying he was immune to physical attacks) hurt by a hybrid of Toad+Swarm etc

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As someone who hasn’t read Marvel since Jurgens Thor run, what is the deal with current Juggernaut??

I would assume The Juggernaut has been weakened

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Team, both can give Hulk trouble individually

Thing has only had like 1 good fight with Hulk. And Juggs is far too weak to compete anymore

Juggernaut isn't soloing shit. Hulk would beat either in very tough fights 1v1, but against both at the same time he gets stomped.

Hulk has stomped Thing too many times.

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Non jobbing Juggs can solo. Thing can occasionally solo.

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This is a mismatch. Either one would give him hell. Together? They curbstomp.

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Current Hulk is not losing to the duo.

Classic versions the team can win.

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Lol, imagine thinking that Juggernaut is immune to physical attacks when there have been countless times when he was hurt/damaged by them

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Current Juggernaut is pathetic, even killer croc can beat him, Pathetic ginger. Hulk stomps them both and uses their heads for bongos.

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Hulk can't tank Thors Godblast like Juggernaut can.

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I hate how people always post those scans of Juggernaut headlocking Hulk and knocking him out, but ignore the next issue when Hulk gets angrier and knocks out Juggernaut in the rematch.

The writer intent there is pretty obvious.

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#47  Edited By ProfessorRespect

Hulk wins more often than not, Thing is still established as below him in stats and Juggs has never been on that level.

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I hate how people always post those scans of Juggernaut headlocking Hulk and knocking him out, but ignore the next issue when Hulk gets angrier and knocks out Juggernaut in the rematch.

The writer intent there is pretty obvious.

It's not even Savage Hulk either, it's Professor lol. Talk about lacking context.

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@the_happy_wendingo: That's not a godblast lol, it's a lightning bolt. Godblasts take minutes to finish charging up and no writer would ever have Juggs above Celestials, unless the wank goes THAT far.

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Hulk wins more often than not, Thing is still established as below him in stats and Juggs has never been on that level.

Juggernaut has been on Hulk's level. Not only does he have fights against Hulk but he even restrained him one time. I know he jobs, but claiming he's never been on that level is a massive stretch.