The Flash Wally West vs Trion Juggernaut

Fight is in Neutral Universe.

Flash loses even if JUG can't hit him JUG endurance and power at this level is too much for flash.

Could the flash here make this form of the juggernaut explode on a molecular level by vibrating through him?

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Could the flash here make this form of the juggernaut explode on a molecular level by vibrating through him?

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" .............................................. Can Wally hurt Trion in any way at all? "

Juggs

"these flash Vs are getting retarded... "

"@tensor: I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT BUT I KNOW HE WOULDN'T DO THAT :) THATS SOUNDS MORE LIKE SOMETHING ZOOM WOULD DO :)  I WAS ALSO THINKING OF THE VIBRATIONS AND SPEED FORCE BUT I JUST LEFT IT ALONE. :) "

" @GamorasBigDaddy said:

"these flash Vs are getting retarded... "

this is correct "

he doesn't have to run and keep up with wally to catch him, if he can uses his power to suck him in like a blackhole. 
 
 

and fighting in "neutral: space doesn't matter since trion can break through the barriors of reality (space time continuum)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
not to mention he's huge! 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 

 
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Uh. Bump...

" Since this is Trion Juggs, he can punch through dimensions and realitys with several hits right? If so, he can tag wally. "

" @termiteone4ever said:

"@tensor: I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT BUT I KNOW HE WOULDN'T DO THAT :) THATS SOUNDS MORE LIKE SOMETHING ZOOM WOULD DO :)  I WAS ALSO THINKING OF THE VIBRATIONS AND SPEED FORCE BUT I JUST LEFT IT ALONE. :) "

Flash even if he tried travelling in past has never shown ability to control it on level of what talking about without something helping him...he very easily could end up in ancient egypt or something... Zoom can't time travel, that's why he need cosmic treadmill to do so... "

Trion Juggernaut wins...

Stalemate. 

"Stalemate.  "

Spite.

" @Susanoo: Flash pawned the SPECTRE when he had all the magic in the universe. There is no ABC Logic here. Flash pawns Juggernaut. With Speedforce vs Trion Juggernaut he wins. Barry held his own without full access or much knowledge of the speed force (that he accidently created) vs the COIE AM >>>>>>>>> Cytorak or however you spell it. Let alone Trion Juggernaut. Flash wins. "

" Trion Juggernaut wins... "

" @Supermanwithatan01 said:

" @Susanoo: Flash pawned the SPECTRE when he had all the magic in the universe. There is no ABC Logic here. Flash pawns Juggernaut. With Speedforce vs Trion Juggernaut he wins. Barry held his own without full access or much knowledge of the speed force (that he accidently created) vs the COIE AM >>>>>>>>> Cytorak or however you spell it. Let alone Trion Juggernaut. Flash wins. "

..... I've always known Flash was powerful but come on. Didn't MM mindrape Spectry once as well? Post me the scan of Flash beating Spectre if you can btw. Thanks. Flash can't hurt Trion though. "

" @Supermanwithatan01: Trion will outlive Wally because Trions immortal. And not some regular immortal either. Trion has the power of the Crimson Cosmos and the Gods that possess him as well.  Those scans are from what time period? (The spectre vs Flash) Also, what Spectre is that? Flash has no way of hurting a being that is almost or even with Cyttorak in the Crimson Cosmos. "

" @Susanoo said:

" @Supermanwithatan01: Trion will outlive Wally because Trions immortal. And not some regular immortal either. Trion has the power of the Crimson Cosmos and the Gods that possess him as well.  Those scans are from what time period? (The spectre vs Flash) Also, what Spectre is that? Flash has no way of hurting a being that is almost or even with Cyttorak in the Crimson Cosmos. "

Immortal doesn't mean you can't be killed it only refers to time. You know that right? and I am well aware of Crimson Comsos but like I said it doesn't matter He's still no where near COIE Anti Monitor... Flash has slapped Darkseid and Steppenwulf straight up LOST to Flash. Both are gods. PC Wally (who was less powerful) vs Jim Corrigan (best spectre) Basically he went crazy and was destroying ALL magic users in the Universe.. Flash stopped him. And the fight isn't in the Crimson Cosmos and Even if it was he now has power over Kinetic energy (in other energies as well) in all dimensions. I posted the scan. "

" @Supermanwithatan01: Yes... "

" @Susanoo: Current Wally is FAR more Powerful than old Wally. His feats are insane...Kinda like the difference between PC Darkseid and Current, ha except other way around. 
 
@Nefarious said:

" @Supermanwithatan01: Yes... "

Proof? Scans? Any evidence at all that supports on just how Juggernaut could win? "

" @Supermanwithatan01 said:

" @Susanoo: Current Wally is FAR more Powerful than old Wally. His feats are insane...Kinda like the difference between PC Darkseid and Current, ha except other way around. 
 
@Nefarious said:

" @Supermanwithatan01: Yes... "

Proof? Scans? Any evidence at all that supports on just how Juggernaut could win? "

Isn't current Wally Parallax or something? "

" @Supermanwithatan01: Hahaha, yeah. I'll do that. My mind was not clear here. lol "

trion jugg can beat even zoom

" This is a really good fight.. But Flash's hits were just said to be powerful enough to knock a planet off it's axis.. That should be enough to handle Juggernaut. However Juggernaut has easily manhandled people with impressive feats.. But underestimating any of the characters is a mistake. "

" @Jodema said:

" This is a really good fight.. But Flash's hits were just said to be powerful enough to knock a planet off it's axis.. That should be enough to handle Juggernaut. However Juggernaut has easily manhandled people with impressive feats.. But underestimating any of the characters is a mistake. "

Scans? Never heard of this before now. "

" @TheFlash4740 said:

" @Jodema said:

" This is a really good fight.. But Flash's hits were just said to be powerful enough to knock a planet off it's axis.. That should be enough to handle Juggernaut. However Juggernaut has easily manhandled people with impressive feats.. But underestimating any of the characters is a mistake. "

Scans? Never heard of this before now. "

It's true. Zoom on here posted a scan a long time ago about it when there was a Flash vs Hulk thread I think. If that helps any. "