The Fantastic Four Vs Black Adam.

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No morals no bfr. Fight nyc start 100 yards apart.

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Adam needs to blitz sue which be can

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This is going to be decided on "speed" against sue.

And BA blitzes

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Adam blitzs

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BA blitzes....with what feats? That one feat he got against Jay Garrick? Either way, he's getting pretty badly beat by Sue considering this is morals off. There's nothing saying she won't just internal attack him to death.

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Thing solos

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BA blitzes

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#14  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@olubummo said:
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I'm....not even sure what this is supposed to even argue. That Brainiac robot didn't even have TK shields. It's such a weird thing to bring up.

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Black Adam wins this one but Thing, Sue, and Johnny need to be taken down quickly. Reed can be trouble too with prep

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@factbro said:

Black Adam wins this one but Thing, Sue, and Johnny need to be taken down quickly. Reed can be trouble too with prep

With the feats he has? Not really. Sue's hax is enough alone not withstanding the rest.

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@professorrespect Black Adam can fly at light speed, he might blitz. I also think Thing would also be hard to fight, and Johnny could go supernova on Adam. So idk

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#18  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@factbro said:

@professorrespect Black Adam can fly at light speed, he might blitz. I also think Thing would also be hard to fight, and Johnny could go supernova on Adam. So idk

In combat? Not really. The best speed feat he ever got was with Jay Garrick, who can't even move LS due to his advanced age. Go to any other fight and those speeds never really show up again.

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#20  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@olubummo said:

@professorrespect:

I'm....not even sure what this is supposed to even argue. That Brainiac robot didn't even have TK shields. It's such a weird thing to bring up.

Meh, stop with your excuse

Excuse? Well I'd expect something else to be used, but sure.

You are just trying to bring up excuses to say Superman can't break through her ‛‛Shields”

Because she's not a Brainiac robot? That's like comparing Iron Man to Lex Luthor because they both use battle suits, lol.

Hell, her ‛‛Shields” has even been broken in the Cartoon series

That's nice and all, but she erm, isn't the cartoon version.

For example:

- Her ‛‛force-field” was broken by Ronan the Accuser

Broken because of his Universal Weapon hax?

- She created a ‛‛force-field” around Hulk's head to suffocate him. However, this only fails because the Hulk overpowers her force-field

The smaller fields are easier to break, obviously. That was Sue trying to subdue the Hulk when she would have without morals just hit him with internal blasts and fields. Not much one can do when there's a TK field slicing their heart or filling their lungs.

Shazam once KO'ed Superman

Magic weakness etc. Going by quantifiable showings and not scaling Captain Marvel has always been weaker than Sups anyway.

And make no mistake, i don't really care much about this discussion

That's why you made a big long post about it? Nice.

So don't bother to reply me again or tag me again

Opps :(

Like i said, am not really interested in this Discussion

Don't reply then. Should be pretty easy.

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#22  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@olubummo said:

@professorrespect:

Because she's not a Brainiac robot?

👉Doesn't change the fact that Superman Can break through Force-Fields

Break through A force field, not universally ofc. This doesn't even make sense in the context of the scan considering Superman failed to get through Brainiac's force field, so either way your argument, whatever it is doesn't work

Magic weakness etc.

it's not only about Magic

I mean, it is. Even mid tiers have knocked him due to magic and it surely isn't anything else

Going by quantifiable showings and not scaling Captain Marvel has always been weaker than Sups anyway.

👉CM KO'ed Superman, he Scales to Superman

Read above champ lol

That's why you made a big long post about it? Nice.

Opps :(

Don't reply then. Should be pretty easy.

👉you know i really tried to be gentle

You aren't taking me out for a date, I hope.

tried to explain that am not really interested in this discussion

Don't reply then.

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#26  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@olubummo said:

@professorrespect:

Break through A force field, not universally ofc.

👉Mr. Man, that Doesn't change the fact that Superman said he Can break through Force-Fields

But he failed to get through the one he mentions he can actually bypass? He said he can, but I'm pretty sure relying on a singular statement about a force field doesn't mean much by itself. It's such a silly hill to die on regardless.

This doesn't even make sense in the context of the scan considering Superman failed to get through Brainiac's force field, so either way your argument, whatever it is doesn't work

👉All those👆are just foundation in your head, headcanon

It happened in the story? Sorry to say. Sups had to move around a force field rather than breaking it etc

I mean, it is. Even mid tiers have knocked him due to magic and it surely isn't anything else

👉NO, it's not only about Magic

It basically is. Even Mid tiers with relatively weak striking have knocked him out

You aren't taking me out for a date, I hope.

• WTF?

• Who said anything about taking you out for a date?

You said you were gonna "take me out" tho. Feel free to add more emotes in your post. That'll make up for the lack of anything else

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BA isn't really the blitzing type nor is he that fast and with 4 people there, it's very unlikely he will go after Sue first, especially with Ben there as the biggest target.

F4 should win honestly in a morals off fight, Ben could give him a decent fight on his own with Sue there she could lobotomize him and Torch isn't useless either as he can go nova on him which would at least stun him for a while.

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#30  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@olubummo said:

@professorrespect:

But he failed to get through the one he mentions he can actually bypass?

👉LMAO, we already discussed this

Yeah, and you said he can bypass force fields, in the story where he doesn't

It basically is. Even Mid tiers with relatively weak striking have knocked him out.

👉NO, it's not only about Magic

It is, quite frankly. Marvel's stats come from magic, and Superman struggles against anything with magic, so the validity of using such a feat purely based around strength is quite off.

The rest of your post is just you ranting about glasses, idk what's going on there

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@olubummo: You realise Superman isn't in this fight, yes? And why are you bringing up the cartoon?

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And the Thing did tank a mantle splitting blast and I don't think Adam has any quantifiable feats on that level. Just saying.

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With BFR: Adam BFR’s Ben then one shots 3 times

Without BFR: Adam thunderclaps wiping out Johnny and Reed, blitzes Sue and then pummels Ben into the dirt.

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#36  Edited By Karkus

@olubummo said:
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Also this doesn't mean Supes can break through any force-field. Obviously he'd break Sue's and many others, but not all force-fields are the same and some have tanked hits from Supes.

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OT: Adam has to go for Sue first in order to win. If he doesn't, Sue wins with a bubble in the brain.

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#38  Edited By brucerogers

@olubummo: That's the thing though. Writers have differing opinions of power levels, so scaling might not be the best way to go. In that case, I might as well scale Thing to Silver Surfer, Immortal Hulk or Prodigal (who blew up a sun) and just a few weeks ago, he fought someone who could blow up stars iirc. Why not use Adam's feats instead?

The cartoon has no bearing on the comics. Irrelevant example is irrelavant.

And boo hoo. This is an open, public forum. If you really want to have a private discussion with ProfessorRespect, take it up in a PM or something.

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#39  Edited By brucerogers

@karkus: That would actually work. I recall Adam being taken out with a football field sized bubble or forcefield inside his brain. Think it was during WW3.

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#40  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@olubummo said:

@professorrespect:

So any Character with ‛‛Magic” Can KO Superman with a Punch?

Nice strawman. I never said such a thing.

The rest of your post is just you ranting about glasses, idk what's going on there

👉LMAO, you need a Glass, even you yourself proved that you need it cause you are saying things i never said

>lol I'm not ranting about glasses!!

>rants about "getting a glass" for three posts

k

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@olubummo: Easy there. Don't hurt yourself typing too hard or punching your screen.

And don't worry, I won't speak to you from here on out. You're not that interesting. But just some friendly advice: if you post nonsense on a public forum, expect to get called out on it.

Au revoir.

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I got sue and the gang because her force fields have blocked Galactus and she can create them anywhere. I think without her though everyone else would get nigh stomped.

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#50 god_spawn  Moderator

@olubummo: Chill out a bit, my guy. No need to make any threats if someone is replying to you.

With that said, to anyone else, no egging him on then.