The Corleone Family Vs. Tony Montana, Gus Fring & Pablo Escobar (Netflix)

Fring, Montana & Escobar has teamed up to expand their drug business in the east coast, particularly New York; but there's a problem, by doing this expansion, they will be in the crosshairs of the Corleones, the Corleones opposed the drug business, thinking illegal drugs will the harbinger of their downfall, seeing these three drug barons may attract unwanted attention from the feds, the Corleones has decided to take them head on, trying to prevent illegal drugs from entering in their home turf.

Will the Corleones able to repel them or will they get folded?

Rules:

• All of the Organizations here will be at the peak of their power, however you define it. All sides have access to all resources, investors, allies, and connections portrayed in each others' canon.
• The Corleones will headed by Michael Corleone & Vito Corleone
• Battle takes place in a hypothetical world where is as portrayed in each of their canons (Films, Novels, TV Shows etc)
• Both the Corleones & the drug lords will have limited knowledge of each other- name, reputation, structure of their respective organization.
• They all have an equal tech level

Yeah, The Corleones get absolutely decimated. Pulling the vast resources of Escobar, with a hyper intelligent guy like fring, and a potential enforcer with Tony is a bad move. Escobar will just send his Sicarios to wipe them out or plant bombs in their cars or Fring can use his Mexican cartel resources to send their sicarios. The Corleones don't have wallets deep enough to fight the Medellin cartel and Fring

@mossbeard: I disagree.

The Corleones wins this one, in an all out gang war, the novel version of the Corleones stomps hard.

Their political power stretches to Washington DC, they also have connections with high ranking Pentagon officers, they also have judges, senators, congressmen etc in their pockets, and by the end of the novel, the entire NY police force is working for them.

As for the muscle, according to Sonny himself, the Corleone family can match the other Five Families gun for gun, this is quite impressive because, in the novel the entire five families are numbered around a thousand, so that means, the Corleones alone has 1k soldiers/associates under their regimes, but the true strength of their crews is not that they are absurdly large, its because part of the overall strength of their regimes was based on their superior organization compared to typical mob operations. They were more tactically flexible and better streamlined for wartime operations, meaning the Corleone regimes acts like actual soldiers from the army than a typical mafia hitmen, and by the end of the novel, when Michael had successfully assassinated Tattaglia & Barzini (Cueno & Stracci surrendered peacefully) the Corleones made their move to absorb the other families, in a few weeks time, the Corleones was the only mafia family still existing in NY, they took over their rivals crews, businesses (legel & illegal barring drugs) and political influence/connections.

So, considering all that, Montana, Fring & Escobar has no way of winning this one even if their allies gets into the action, Michael & Vito will use their political power to expose the likes of Montana & Fring and use their Pentagon connections to put pressure on Escobar's operations down in Colombia, and without a doubt their political allies would help the Corleones, seeing how bad illegal drugs are, they could also send out literally hundreds of hitmen on the streets clocking on Montana's & Fring's operations and if any these three tries sending their own hitmen to NY, good luck with that, not only they're gonna face an mafia that operated in military style organization, they will also deal with law enforcement, heck besides from pressuring Escobar's operations via their Pentagon connections, they could also use this connection to gain more info about these three, or engage in psyops, the novel version of the Corleones owns large news agencies, they could use this to start a smear campaign against Fring & Montana, this move would be damaging, seeing how these men value reputation, and more importantly their political allies would be more reluctant to help them now.

Conclusion, Montana, Fring & Escobar has zero chance of winning this one, The Corleones can match them in terms of muscle but in terms of connections and influence, the Corleones stomps.

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Pretty much everything Killer said. The Coreleone’s wins due to more power, influence, firepower, and the fact the battle is taking place on their turf.

Don Corleone, trust me at the top it isn't lonely

Its hard to make a case for the drug lords, the Corleones got their "bases" covered.

The Corleones have the manpower, money & influence to fight the drug lords head on.

El Patron solos, Corleones get bombed to death.

Unlikely, he can't even bomb the US politicians that were cracking down on his operations.

Bombing politicians =/= Bombing rivals

He has already Montana and Fring in place to direct the operations.
He has more money than all the Corleones combined.

That's spite.
Money reigns.

Nope, the Corleone family has connections up to the Pentagon, no one is bombing anyone, the battleground is NY the Corleones has eyes & ears everywhere, the the entire NY police force is under there payroll, and like Killer said, beside the illegal stuff, the Corleones secretly owns a large portion of legitimate business, Vito/Michael could use these connections to even undermine their rivals, expose Fring & Montana, their groups are not even comparable to the Corleones, the local DEA is giving Fring a hard time & Montana got busted with the local PD, the Corleones can use their political backing to put pressure on their business' while the same time literally putting out hundres of button men on the street clocking on their operations.

It doesn't matter, they will be bought by the team 2 and betray the Corleones, Corrupted people goes with money.

"Like Killer said" yeah that's just your other alt arguing in your own thread that you created with your alt. lmao

Don't you feel ashamed ? xD

The Corleones end bombed, poisoned, betrayed or gunned down, pick one or all of them.

You tried to create a spite match again and it blown into your face that's so amusing to have so little awareness.

Easy peasy

It's not like it was hard to gun down Vito...

Again with the accusations, if you can't argue properly best stay away from threads like these.

The only time that they were betrayed was with Paulie & Fredo, both of these situations are extremely rare, the Corleone's at that time were not on their guard, they didn't expect to get hit, but this time they're fully knowledgeable of their enemies, and you speak as if team 2 are not vulnerable with betrayal too.

Again, the Corleone political allies will more than willing to help them out, specially how destructive illegal drugs are, and sending sicarios to NY? that's laughable, those siciarios will either be dead or locked up, your choice.

They could also use their Pentagon connections to further gather their intel on those 3, use media connection to expose Fring & Montana, use their police connections to guard the ports, put political pressure on their operations etc.

The Corleones has so much options here to play, what the 3 can do? car bombs? gonna use terrorist methods? good luck with that. the US govt will probably intervene or side with the Corleones.

corleones

The mods already knows about two of your alts. xD

They are extremely rare, lamo,

Escobar can literally buy an army of mercenaries with his money. They have nowhere to hide.

Team 2 is far less vulnerable, they have more power.

Pablo can still buy already corrupted people, they are not immune to double-crossing the Corleone, corrupted people goes with money. Did you believe that they worked for the Corleone for Glory ? Nah, it's all about money and Pablo make them all looks like peasants.

"The Us governement" couldn't protect Vito for being gunned down, there his car or whatever place he goes can be bombed down or someone can be paid to poison them.

Whatever, Team 2 wins.

Give me another instance where the Corleone's were betrayed.

He can buy it all he wants, it doesn't matter, the battleground is NY, the Police force is under the Corleones, they have eyes and ears everywhere, or they could just use the Police to their own ends.

Not really, Fring & Montana got even pinched by the local authorities, Tony for example has a laughable security, Fring got into trouble with the DEA etc.

Pablo's money will only attract the sicarios, not big time politicians or the feds, how can you not understand this lol, name one major US politician that Escobar bought.

Again, you're not reading properly, the Corleone's didn't expect to get hit, but in this hypothetical battle it stated in the OP that those 3 have the intentions to expand in the NY area and the Corleone's have some form of intel about them, what's stopping the Corleone's to exert every power & influence they have here? they have politicians & feds under them, what does the 3 have?

As for the whole " eScoBar hAs a lOt moRe MonEy" BS, the Corleone's own Banks, Casinos, Hotels, Brokerage Firms, Shopping Malls, Major Media Outlets, Trucking Services, Food OPA productions, the Textile industry in the East Coist etc, the point is, the Corleone's has more than enough money to face them off

If you can't give any proper arguments here, please stay away, you're just embarrassing yourself.

Police isn't moniscient nor they are sticked to the Corleones, they can be as influencial as they want, there is nothing that will protect them from a blade in the back or beign poisoned or being bombed.
Vito got gunned down ffs.

I'm citing them as one of the examples for why the Escobar & co won't able to touch the Corleone's, they have a lot of resources to pull from, besides the Police, the poison thing is not even reliable on Escobar's part, Medelling Cartel can't even poison the Cali Cartel Bosses on their home turf, let alone overseas.

The Corleone's can also use their Pentagon connections, to monitor all incoming Colombians via airport or the docks, or they can use them to put pressure on Escobar's operations down in Colombia.

Again, the Corleone's has the options here, sadly those 3 doesn't have that power/influence outside of their own turfs.

Gus did poison them, it's just an example thought.

Two thugs with guns are enough to cut the head off the Corleone's family as we already saw.

I get feats before speculations xD

Their connections ain't mobilizing their full ressources thought.

They dies. XD

Not even comparable, the heads of the Juarez Cartel are not even on par with the Corleones, and the fact that Gus had personal business dealings and even met the Cartel bosses means that he had some inside connection hence easier to pull off the assassination, not gonna happen to the Corleones, Gus will either be dead or in jail before he can even meet with Michael or Vito, but I think the Corleone's can influence Walter, they could a cut a deal with him and betray Gus.

You're handwaving the shooting incident when I've already debunked it, you're either ignoring or just desperate to find a loop hole lol.

Yup, all the stuff I'm saying here is in the book, the pentagon connections, the politicians, the legit business etc. I think you're the one should stop speculating here.

Again, the Corleones wins this one, no amount of your speculations can change that fact.

They can expect to get it or not, it doesn't matter.

El Patron can put a bounty on their faces and buy an army or mercenaries.

Walter ain't dealing with the Corleones, he is already at risk and if anything he could try to poison or bomb the Corleones to assure his own safety.

Corleone's aren't walking out of this. They dies.

Money is power.

It does matter, it only means that Gus won't be able to pull off his assassination.

Irrelevant, the Corleone's makes a counter offer or use their political backing to dismantle Escobar's sicarios/mercenaries

The Corleones will offer him safety, Walter is no fool, he can certainly see that the Corleone's are far more superior in terms of power & influence compared to Gus. the Corleone's can offer him legal protection, erase his criminal records, help him with his cancer treatment, protect his family etc. Gus has nothing to offer here.

Those 3 are dead, the Corleones has too much of resources to pull from

Money is power true, but the Corleones have it also, along with a very powerful political influence.