The Beyonders vs Lucifer Morningstar

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Takes place in space.

Winner?

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Ivory Kings stomps

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Beyonders.

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Also I'm sure this has been done before.

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Can anyone actually give reasons instead of just stating Beyonders or Lucifer? I know they beat the LT, but they did have limitations I want to know about.

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@nerevarine_11: Lots of little things. But I just checked the IK's out, and they should win.

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@nerevarine_11: Well, first care to fill me in on something? What did the IK's want? I did not read that one and it looks interesting.

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@van_cere: The IK wanted to destroy the Marvel Multiverse as part of an experiment and basically start over from scratch. They did this by creating Molecule Men then detonating them spiking a chain reaction that caused the destruction of the respective multiverse.

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@nerevarine_11: Why did they not just destroy the multiverse? Like, beings of their power should be able to do so.

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#14  Edited By Goldchamp101

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Why is Lucifer above the Living Tribunal,The Ivory Kings or PR Beyonder?

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#15  Edited By HighAccuser

@van_cere: They were opposed by the Celestials, Abstracts, and other beings for a little while who they also beat. Also they were being screwed by Doom, Black Priests and others

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@nerevarine_11: None of those beings save LT have the poewr to stop them, yet after they killed LT, they did not just one shot creation. How so?

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@van_cere: Cause they were conducting an experiment. Three of them were in a multiverse of infinite possibilities. Also it's because of plot so the Illuminati can oppose them

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@nerevarine_11: They could have just done a Michael and busted creation after LT died. Why did they not immediately do so? I know there are Beyonders with different levels of power, but the three who took out LT should have enough raw power to, y'know, one shot Creation.

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Been done and done and done again.....

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Beyonders win.

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#23  Edited By HighAccuser

@van_cere: Because of plot read New Avengers also just because Mike and Lucy did that to creation within context of their story doesn't make them above LT.

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@nerevarine_11: Hey! No need to get defensive! I never mentioned Lucifer. All I want to know is how they did not just make multiverse go poof. It WAS what they wanted right? You told me so.

So, do you have any scans of the reason why that did not happen?

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@van_cere: You mentioned Michael and I'm telling why and I've already explained. Also I'm on mobile so I can't post scans. I'm still waiting for yours that prooved anybody from Vertigo is above LT?

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@adamameen: Ah, another person who is confident and sure. Wish I am like that, unfortunately I am not, so may I ask how?

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@nerevarine_11: Again, I never said Lucifer wins. If you do not remember, the only time I even mentioned vertigo is in post No. 9. No need to get defensive buddy! I just want to hear, from someone who is certain that they would, HOW they win, and WHY they did not one shot creation.

So far, I still do not hear any reasons...So do you actually have one? If not, it is okay, I will just ask another, because I am open to suggestion and would like more knowledge.

So...do you have the reason why they did not one shot creation after beating LT?

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Lucifer easily . Absurd topic absurd thread . Should lock .

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@mad_jim said:

Lucifer easily . Absurd topic absurd thread . Should lock .

Mind explaining how if it's so "absurd"?

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@van_cere:

They beat Lt

And every other marvel abstract excluding Oblivion, IIRC.

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@jardinain2: He is like a lot of people on this site who does not give any reasons and just states 'he stomps' and 'xxx easily' and 'no way he wins', that is not trolling, but has the potential to be based on what he says next. Logic, then okay. If not, troll.

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@jardinain2: @adamameen: That is an awesome feat I know! One of the best.

But, as I have heard, that was not their goal. Their goal was to destroy the multiverse, yet why did they not? Seriously, I did not read that and if you guys have the answer, that would be swell.

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@van_cere: He makes some absolutely absurd claims though, i guess "fanboy" would be more appropriate.

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@jardinain2: Maybe, I have never met him. I think. I have been here a lot time since the early days of bug reporting and quests, a lot of people escapes memory.

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@van_cere said:

@jardinain2: @adamameen: That is an awesome feat I know! One of the best.

But, as I have heard, that was not their goal. Their goal was to destroy the multiverse, yet why did they not? Seriously, I did not read that and if you guys have the answer, that would be swell.

Someone more knowledgeable on the Ivory Kings will have to answer, but IMO it was solely for entertainment purposes, more fun to read a convoluted plot than flat out destroying everything, also Secret Wars needed to be set up.

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@jardinain2: I should get the book, but college has got me broke, or I would have bought Jer's chocolates. Those are good chocolates for someone who has eaten most normal kinds.

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@van_cere: Lol, i have zero money or time for anything and im not even in college :( im trying to go for a PHD in astrophysics and a major in Quantum physics.

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@jardinain2: Looks like your sort of crazy. But that must be highly rewarding afterwards tho

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@bryann99: So far nobody has told me why. Are you different? Is there a reason you picked the IK's?

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Ivory Kings>>LT>>Lucifer Morningstar

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Lucifer stomps

Lucifer can't Truely be killed

Ivory kings got killed by molecule men powered bomb that wasn't even multiversal

Lucifer is a being who tanked a creation buster with no damage. Who wills himself back into existence. Who erases beings outta existence

Lucifer solos with utmost ease as the beyonders weren't had to kill.. Living tribunal was always overrated since he has no noteworthy combat feats. So killing him was no big deal

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Lucifer stomps

Lucifer can't Truely be killed

Ivory kings got killed by molecule men powered bomb that wasn't even multiversal

Lucifer is a being who tanked a creation buster with no damage. Who wills himself back into existence. Who erases beings outta existence

Lucifer solos with utmost ease as the beyonders weren't had to kill.. Living tribunal was always overrated since he has no noteworthy combat feats. So killing him was no big deal

@van_cere LOOK! ^ reasons. even if i can barely read that post...

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@jardinain2: This is why people get confused. If I had not done some research I would have believed the Beyonders are glass cannons, but now I know those are different Ivory Kings with different power levels. He gave the truth without explaining context.

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They killed LT and all the other abstracts.

Lucifer dies like the rest of them.

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They killed LT and all the other abstracts.

Lucifer dies like the rest of them.

Did they affect Oblivion at all? you never hear anything about that guy.