The Arrow (CW) vs Nightwing (Titans)

• Random Encounter.
• Pre Al-Sa-Him Oliver
• Standard Gear
• Morals On.
• Winner by KO.
• Who wins?

The Arrow, Nightwing can't react to Arrows though he'd win in a CQC encounter.

Edit: Retconning this, Dick reacting to Dr. Light Blasts, as well as keeping up with a guy as fast as Enhanced Slade should at the very least put him on arrow timing level.

Still Oliver

Dick for the most part, vag for the remaining.

Oliver

Bump

Oliver edges in experience.

Nightwing held his own and performed quite well against an Enhanced Titans Slade, CW Arrow admitted he had no chance against Kuru Slade, and had to muster up a cure to the Mirakuru to take away Slade's enhancements and leave him groggy to stand a chance. Even then, he failed to defeat Slade, but could only fight on even terms.

Intent seems to favor Nightwing, @death4bunnies, anything to add?

Titans Grayson did a flip over Dr lights attack in slo mo.

Funnily enough CW has a Dr light, and CW Deathstroke was tagged by Dr lights gun.

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CW death stroke is Arrows superior in all facets.. this can’t be more clear, Grayson is much faster than Arrow based on the above.

He did something even CW death stroke failed to do, dodge dr lights blast.. in slo mo, with a flip.

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He has other speed feats to like being FTE to his version of death stoke, but it should be clear just by the gifs above who is superior.

Here is FTW to Titans Deathstroke.

FTE to Deathstroke with a Batman like ghosting ability..../...(Confirmed)

@death4bunnies: A very fine piece of cross verse scaling. Also should be consistent with Dick maneuvering around Enhanced Slade's attacks pretty well, he did seem faster. Not sure I'd go as far as FTE to Slade, however.

Agreed with first half. Lime is right here. Nyssa scaling is too goat for Dick in cqc. If no feats post S1 is allowed, even then Ollie's stats is too much for him.

“Oliver shoots the non arrow timer”

In actuality. Nightwing.

If you watch the slade vs nightwing fight, nightwing lands 15 unanswered hits before slade lands one.

Slade can only compete with nightwing do to stats.

Why are we equating Titans Slade to CW Slade like it’s not a big deal. Mirakuru Slade has physical stats that Titans Slade hasn’t shown to match at all, at least from what I’ve seen.

@death4bunnies: i can also Ollie dodged laser of Overgirl

All Deathstroke are same because Titans Deathstroke is shit.

At least that's what I gathered from d4b's rant on discord.

I’m not comparing the deathstrokes, I’m comparing the reactions to dr lights attack.

CW Dr lights gun tagged CW Slade no problem, Titans Dr lights blast was flipped over in slo mo.

CW Slade > Ollie in all respects, and he couldn’t do what Dick did.

I didn’t even compare the death stokes..

try to follow I’m comparing CW Skade failing you react to Dr lights gun, and Titans Grayson doing a flip in slo mo over Dr Lights blast.

My bad. Not all Deathstrokes are same. All Dr Lights are same. Or all Dr Light's guns are same. idek.

Light obviously moves slower in the Titans verse. Light speed in Arrow is faster than real life light speed

Arrow beat Solomon Grundy, and DCAU Solomon Grundy beats up Superman and punches through Green Lantern constructs.

Right?? ^^ lol, and Graysons scene was in slo mo, so visual speed can be ignored.

basically the same attack, but one was reacted to.

Considering the video was slowed down to the point, it resulted in light moving at speeds perceivable to naked eye, gravity must also be ridiculously higher in Titans because it doesn't take Dick long to complete his flip.

Making Dick a lot stronger than you'd think.

@rbt:

dick is also clearly in slo mo along with the light.

considering the difference between that reaction and this reaction..(from ollies superior) the battle becomes clear.

@death4bunnies:

dick is also clearly in slo mo along with the light.

That's...what I said.

Dick, despite being in such a massively slowed down scenario where light can be perceived by naked eye, still completes a fall in what we see as 2 seconds? Imagine the acceleration due to gravity. Those guys living on a black hole or something tbh. So I was mistaken. Its not just an amazing strength feat for Dick. It also makes him super durable.

@rbt:

none of that changes that he did a backflip over a attack CW slade couldnt react to.

who Do you think wins this fight, you keep saying outrageous stuff about Grayson in kinda a mocking manner, instead of accepting the dr light feats.

Mocking manner? Whatever do you mean?

Nightwing

Nightwing. Too much intent