Thanos w/ The Regulator vs Lucifer Morningstar

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Beyonder does not have the power of both actually... more of them seperate.

Beyonder demonstrated destruction, precise manipulation and "create out of nothing" feats, explicitly.

I don't see an argument that he doesn't have the arsenal of what the brothers have.

Didn’t Lucifer create a multiverse the same as the presence out of nothing

The Lucifer series is lose-lose and less explicit in terminology compared to multiversal related stories written by the likes of Starlin or Snyder.

Lucifer never popped all the infinite matter, physics and time of his creation out of nothing, that was explicitly Michael's doing only. What Lucifer did was mold the Chaos that Michael brought out of nothing, into a precisely intended form.

Michael and Lucifer both form the two most fundamental forms of reality warping, creation and manipulation. But Beyonder has both, so I cannot imagine how he will lose to Lucifer.

I still see it as lucifer creating stuff from nothing. You also have the Presence who im pretty sure gave him the power to do more than beyonder when lucifer escaped the Presence plan

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Lucifer AKA Great Evil Beast wins.

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Lucifer ultimately a mismatch, Lucifer blinks the verse.

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@y3kthunder would you be able to debunk this guys outversal type tiering? He thinks due to marvel’s multiversal feats they are above dc (who also have better multiversal feats but they ignore that) also with what I said you can debunk.

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@y3kthunder would you be able to debunk this guys outversal type tiering? He thinks due to marvel’s multiversal feats they are above dc (who also have better multiversal feats but they ignore that) also with what I said you can debunk.

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Here’s more (I’m sorry for this stuff but I like when people are debunked)

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@userthatisme: I feel as if I'm missing a lot of what went down there so I'm not sure how much help I can be most of what was said made no sense to me

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@userthatisme: I feel as if I'm missing a lot of what went down there so I'm not sure how much help I can be most of what was said made no sense to me

Essentially what he’s saying it that infinity and eternity have better feats than the endless and that oblivion is above lucifer. Ignore the fact he thinks overmonitor is high tier because I persuaded him on that.(except he thinks that monitors are top tier)

also he says that chaos king stops at the presence lol

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@y3kthunder said:

@userthatisme: I feel as if I'm missing a lot of what went down there so I'm not sure how much help I can be most of what was said made no sense to me

Essentially what he’s saying it that infinity and eternity have better feats than the endless and that oblivion is above lucifer. Ignore the fact he thinks overmonitor is high tier because I persuaded him on that.(except he thinks that monitors are top tier)

also he says that chaos king stops at the presence lol

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@userthatisme said:
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@userthatisme: I feel as if I'm missing a lot of what went down there so I'm not sure how much help I can be most of what was said made no sense to me

Essentially what he’s saying it that infinity and eternity have better feats than the endless and that oblivion is above lucifer. Ignore the fact he thinks overmonitor is high tier because I persuaded him on that.(except he thinks that monitors are top tier)

also he says that chaos king stops at the presence lol

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I was saying random nonsense at the end when I bring comic vine up

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@y3kthunder: really what I’m saying is he thinks eternity, infinity, oblivion, chaos king and living tribunal can solo dc

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#115  Edited By cosmic_reign

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How so? The Regulator isn’t even getting past the endless let alone lucifer.

The Endless are Multiversal concepts.... they get absorbed like their counterpart concepts did.

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How so? The Regulator isn’t even getting past the endless let alone lucifer.

The Endless are Multiversal concepts.... they get absorbed like their counterpart concepts did.

Thanos is multiversal with a universal item... he dies before it starts

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How so? The Regulator isn’t even getting past the endless let alone lucifer.

The Endless are Multiversal concepts.... they get absorbed like their counterpart concepts did.

Thanos is multiversal with a universal item... he dies before it starts

Marvel counterparts are below DC’s btw.

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If you guys took what this guy seriously then I guess lucifer could lose. But lucifer blinks the verse

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Also @manofmanynames2 you shown that the universe they said was multi dimensional not infinite dimensional. And you also know that this omniversal and hyperversal stuff is the same as multiversal. If you use the tiering lucifer by feats is ”omniversal and above”. Lucifer also has aspects of from an omnipotent that makes him virtual omnipotent when he created a past infinite dimensional multiverse like the Presence(when the Presence gave him that power and was even stated to be on par with the Presence or above in certain comics)

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@userthatisme said:

Thanos is multiversal with a universal item... he dies before it starts

Marvel counterparts are below DC’s btw.

Nah...

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Thanos is multiversal with a universal item... he dies before it starts

Marvel counterparts are below DC’s btw.

Nah...

So marvel death has better feats than dc death?

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#122  Edited By Mevbi91

@userthatisme: Nah, Marvel isn't impressive for 90% of most modern multiversal entities.

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@userthatisme: Nah, Marvel isn't impressive for 90% of most modern multiversal entities.

People to me overwank marvel. I genuinely see better feats from dc then i do marvel. And those that wank marvel normally make things up to try and win debates when I debate sometimes.

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ultimately if Umineko characters solo marvel then dc characters definitely blink marvel

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#125  Edited By cosmic_reign

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So marvel death has better feats than dc death?

Feat-wise, I wouldn't know... but they both represent the Prime Concept of Death within a Prime Multiversal structure.

Not seeing how one is greater than the other regarding purpose/importance/hierarchy/power.

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@userthatisme said:

So marvel death has better feats than dc death?

Feat-wise, I wouldn't know... but they both represent the Prime Concept of Death within a Prime Multiversal structure.

Not seeing how one is greater than the other regarding purpose/importance/hierarchy/power.

Feats do matter even regarding a being that’s supposed to be a concept. And DC’s multiverse is also above Marvel’s.

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@cosmic_reign said:
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So marvel death has better feats than dc death?

Feat-wise, I wouldn't know... but they both represent the Prime Concept of Death within a Prime Multiversal structure.

Not seeing how one is greater than the other regarding purpose/importance/hierarchy/power.

Feats do matter even regarding a being that’s supposed to be a concept. And DC’s multiverse is also above Marvel’s.

Maybe in your opinion, which is fine! Mine is different so there's that!

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@userthatisme said:
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So marvel death has better feats than dc death?

Feat-wise, I wouldn't know... but they both represent the Prime Concept of Death within a Prime Multiversal structure.

Not seeing how one is greater than the other regarding purpose/importance/hierarchy/power.

Feats do matter even regarding a being that’s supposed to be a concept. And DC’s multiverse is also above Marvel’s.

Maybe in your opinion, which is fine! Mine is different so there's that!

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Going with Thanos

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going with lucifer way more powerful and better statements two

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@cosmic_reign said:
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So marvel death has better feats than dc death?

Feat-wise, I wouldn't know... but they both represent the Prime Concept of Death within a Prime Multiversal structure.

Not seeing how one is greater than the other regarding purpose/importance/hierarchy/power.

Feats do matter even regarding a being that’s supposed to be a concept. And DC’s multiverse is also above Marvel’s.

Maybe in your opinion, which is fine! Mine is different so there's that!

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Going with Thanos

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going with lucifer way more powerful and better statements two

Also my “opinion” is more fact for DC being bigger than Marvel.

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Also my “opinion” is more fact for DC being bigger than Marvel.

Lol... Let u tell it!

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@userthatisme said:

Also my “opinion” is more fact for DC being bigger than Marvel.

Lol... Let u tell it!

No let you tell it!

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Eternity can match Lucifers best feats, hes still nothing to Beyonder.

Lucifers power has never shown to be more then a multiversal destroying/creating power. Such power is nothing to PR Beyonder

First off comparing Eternity to Lucifer, is plain out embarrassing.

Secondly, Lucifer is above Multiversal in power, Beyonder as well, but never technically shown any Multiversal feats.

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Beyonder admits his Infinite Dimensional.

Lucifer is Beyond Dimensional Logic or any logic of the Universe.

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Secondly, make a case point, Beyonder technically had no Multiversal feat, other than claims of him being bigger than the Multiverse. Bigger does not mean Multiversal in feat.

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Now you may regard yourself saying, the Beyonder has claimed the Marvel Multiverse is a drop of water compared to his realm, then again, back in Secret Wars, everyone was nigh-featless. The Living Tribunal at the time was the overseer of magic, not the one to protect the Multiverse, other than STrange Tales, he didn't even have a Universal feat yet. Secondly, Lucifer is Infinite Will, he shaped all of Creation, meaning Infinite Amounts of Multiverse, because his Will has no limits, so technically speaking Lucifer is Infinitely above the Multiverse in logic, Secondly, Lucifer has way more feats.

Plus he can take a Demiurgic Explosion which contains the Infinite Power of God, and Infinite power is only matched by Infinite Will.

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Lucifer blinks the verse

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Thanos blinks the verse.

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Lucifer wins this.

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Thanos.

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I think Lucifer takes it

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All 4 are nigh omnipotent beings but Lucifer has clear defined weaknesses where he can not create something out of nothing and needs his brother to be whole in complete power. Also he has people that are clearly above him in power and rank like Presence. PR Beyonder answers to no one. TOAA answers to no one. Thanos w/ Regulator answers to no one.

PR Beyonder > Thanos w/ R > TOAA > Lucifier

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Lucifer wins pretty comfortably.

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lucifer accidentally blinks

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Thanos absorbed puny abstracts and TOAA who can't even fix a mere singular universe lol. What a joke! Thanos is getting blinked.

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Going with Lucifer.

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Lucifer

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Thanos blinks the verse

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Still lucifer

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Lucifer.

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Thanos blinks