Thanos vs World Breaker Hulk

Can we lock this already? This is still a stomp in Thanos' favor.

Agreed.

@20damon: off panel author statements or interviews do not confirm anything on panel no matter how "accurate" or "valid" anyone wants them to be.

if silver surfer bullrushes hulk at 100mph but pak claims he bullrushed at the speed of light, paks statement is still inaccurate.

either way he doesnt have tangible planet busting feats

if your saying red she hulk and world breaker exchanged a "series of blows" for "many panels" then you would also be saying it took them many blows for many panels to destroy the planet

oh nobody got the wish they wanted including hulk?

cool, then his wish for red she hulk wasnt granted. his wish for everyone dying and reforming wasnt granted.

he got killed by red she hulk. he clearly isnt durable then.

hulk wished for everyone to die and reform.

that is exactly what happened. the entire planet got destroyed, and then reformed. all due to wishes.

immortal hulk #1 he got resurrected by the challenger.

he has never "brought himself back" to life. he wouldnt stay dead for FIVE years if he could bring himself back to life on his own power.

no, hulk getting beat by thor does not mean "he was weakened since thor beat him and since thor beat him that means hes weaker than savage hulk"

mental gymnastics dont justify mental gymnastics. yes hulk did get one shotted in fear itself and it was by someone below thanos and below zeus for that matter.

asgardians and eternals get stronger with age so no "power up" is needed. theres a reason theres 5 instances throughout history where hulk has dreams about beating thor up yet thor never dreams of the same. theres also a reason they have thor face off 1v1 against thanos.

show me hulks punches hurting thanos as bad as mjolnir did.

surfer owns hulk because hes stronger tougher faster more versatile, has hax and has hax resistance.

surfer dont need to drain hulk to win. he consistently performs better vs thanos than hulk does.

cool, zeus has all kinds of hax, yet he used nothing against hulk, all he did was physically beat him down. zeus is below thanos.

post core breach hulk has only matched herc in strength and both of them were confirmed as being below planetary in strength at maximum capacity.

nobody gives a damn about fan fiction universe feats or showings. theres many people in marvel stronger than hulk. thanos and zeus are among them. so when zeus or thanos beat hulk down you cant simply use mental gymnastics and claim they magically altered hulks strength. even as green scar hulk got stomped by those guys casually. in a physical fight.

thanos killing cancer verse hulk is a valid and relevant showing

And the troll that spams PM's with massive texts and gay porn is back, so i will keep it brief and not waste my time.

It's not an insult, since you are an obvious troll and you are a user with banned accounts that has spammed people in PM's with all kinds of insults as well as gay porn, you can run but you can't hide whoisthebest

And Hulk has busted a planet on panel

Except he busted a planet with a shockwave, so wrong again

No they actually didn't and there are several panels showing themselves punching each other several times so obviously they didn't kill themselves with one blow, wrong again

and again they didn't wish for the planet do be destroyed

and it had nothing to do with WBH unleashing his power because his power is his own

the wish didn't amp WBH so no

because WBH wished to be stuck in an endless loop where everything gets brought back once it gets destroyed

he actually is Immortal as confirmed by the writer who has more saying then you

he actually did as again it's something the writer has confirmed and the only reason he didn't bring himself back sooner is because Banner WANTED to stay dead so but now the Hulk doesn't want to stay dead so he can't die, Banner already died twice in the Immortal Hulk series and Hulk brought him back to life twice so your point is moot as always

Thor never knocked out Nul in Fear itself, in fact Thor admitted he could never really beat him and needed to resort to BFRing him while he had no problems killing Angrir and then he collapsed into a coma from exerting himself. Hulk has tanked punches and blasts from Thanos so no, he can't one-shot him

except for the fact that Thor has ALWAYS struggled with Hulk in every fight they had and soon he will struggle against Hulk even with an entire team at his back

Hulk did KO him in the comic, in fact he 3-shot him, he has also 1-shot him twice and 4-shot him another time, so Hulk has KO'd Thor 4 times while Thor has only 1 KO on Hulk

False, Surfer is actually very susceptible to draining and he is not as resistant to blunt force as Hulk is, these are just facts.

Green Scar is not the same as WWH, because WWH is motivated by the specific anger and vengeance, while Green Scar ins't and thus in turn isn't as strong as WWH

Mental gymnastics are entirely your thing, your entire existence on this site revolves around you making stuff up, you fanboyed Thor to the most ridiculous degree even when you aren't actually a fan of him you just got butthurt of consistently getting owned by Hulk fans

Nobody called Zeus a magician, he isn't a magician the way Strange is, but he uses magic obviously as all Skyfathers do

those are 2 things, you can't even count to 2?

It was never stated or shown that Zeus is physically stronger than Hulk, no. And Zeus went back on his word by using magic in their fight even though he promised it would just be H2H, even Pak confirms this. He could vaporize Hulk with a thought, yes probably. Still it was also confirmed by Pak that no other hero would have done as good as Hulk did there.

In what way is Zeus weaker than Thanos? Zeus wasn't weakened by any magic there let alone Umars, this is you just randomly inventing stuff that never happened and never backing it up with any on panel evidence. He didn't break his ribcage into million pieces he just broke his ribcage no amount of pieces were ever stated, you again inventing stuff and it was not from one punch because that statement from Hera came at the end of their fight which means after several Zeus blows. Thanos has never one-shotted or killed Hulk, in fact the whole point of him having Maestro as his pet is because unlike other heroes and beings he couldn't kill Hulk just like he couldn't kill Cosmic Rider, but he had no problems killing OF Thor. Hulk has feats of healing a ribcage are you daft? How do you think his ribcage healed after the fight with Zeus? He regrew an entire head which is more complex than just a limb and nobody managed to ever cut off his limb unlike with Thor so he doesn't have feats in what he doesn't need.

The wish had nothing to do with planet busting, since nobody wished for the planet to be busted, Greg Pak himself confirmed that WBH is a planet buster in an interview, no wishes.

Don't talk to me about bad arguments, Hulk has died in comics more than half a dozen times and was brought back, they can kill off any hero and bring him back anyway they want, with Hulk though seeing as he is immortal he just brings himself back.

Thor has never one-shotted or nearly killed the Hulk, simple because he lacks the damage output, he has only ever knocked out pre-core breach Hulk once after a very long battle, but in that same comic Hulk knocked him out as well. Thanos never one-shotted Hulk. Surfer is not tougher to blunt force than even regular Hulk, let alone WBH.

That was Green Scar not WWH and Zeus used magic to mess with Hulks healing and durability.

Far too easy.

@the_living_tribunal_24 said:

@gilneas said:

@the_living_tribunal_24 said:

@gilneas: who wendigo?? Swear he is a mid tier.

Mid tier???

It takes the combined forces of Hulk and Sasquatch to bring him down

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Wendigo holds Hulk in a choke underwater until Marvel saves him.

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Here he fights Wolverine and all of Alpha flight and is winning

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But he is a mid-tier right?

im pretty sure he intentionally broke the planet, he even asked of there were any innocent people in the planet before hand.

No, he never intended to break the planet he just knew that his power would be enough to break the planet if he stopped finally holding back since that's whats been prophesized to him ever since Planet Hulk, that's why he asked that in the first place.

but it wasn't there strength that broke the planet but the gamma bursts that came from the collision tho just like when the surfer headbutted morg the ground wasn't the origin of the explosion so I fail to see the difference.

With each blow they landed on one another the planet blew up everyone got incinerated then remade, then blew up everyone got incinerated then remade, etc... The point was SS and Morg were much closer to the planet than WBH and RSH.

that's the dumbest thing you've... ok if the hulk is holding back because he knows he could destroy a planet, if he purposely stops holding back is he not trying to destroy a planet?? your logic makes no sense. winning against alpha flight is impressive?? how is it impressive to kill wendigo with a planetary attack if wendigo never showed planetary level durability??

Not as dumb as calling Wendigo a mid-tier. I don't know whats so difficult to understand, Hulk never INTENDED to break the planet, he just knew that without holding back he WILL break the planet. He is not actively TRYING to destroy a planet, he just knows that his power is enough to destroy one if he cuts loose, he doesn't give a flying F about the planet dude, he only cared if there where any innocent on it, so that if he ends up destroying it, it wont harm anyone that's innocent. There is a difference between TRYING to do something INTENTIONALLY and ACCIDENTALLY doing something because you know the consequences of your actions. Did you ask me if winning against the Alpha flight is impressive or did you ask me if Wendigo is a mid-tier? That's a false equivalence since Wendigo has never been hit by a planetary busting attack before, so you are asking someone to prove a negative. About as impressive as killing Lord Armageddon with it someone who has tanked attacks from SS and even beat him and about as impressive as killing countless mindless ones when in the past it took the combined efforts off the Avengers and Defenders to defeat just 3 of them.

Hehehehe, the amount of stupid in this post caused an overload. Keep it up Whoisthebest.

We do agree Thanos beats Hulk of course, but the rest of the post is absolute garbage.

@bayman007: All your posts are just pure speculation, fantasy and unproven statements

Use images , examples , your not doing a good job of proving your case

Listen carefully because you seem to have trouble with comprehension, Hulk isn't even herald level and you think he would beat teambuster/transendent tiers or ones potentially low level skyfather tiers, honestly what your saying is just lunacy, NO ONE HERE takes you seriously

Now if you can show examples then that's kool man just dont expect us to accept this drivel

He's whanking Hulk a lot while you're underselling him almost as much. You're both pretty damn wrong.

@20damon: How am I underselling him? Was it the herald tiering ?

Or thats Zeus beats hulk ? Thanos stalemated Odin ?

Or maybe its where I said Thanos beats hulk , because he actually has

Seriously have you even read his posts ? I'm not doing what he is doing , but Thank you for a pointless and worthless post

He's obviouly a massive fanboy or a troll. But i did confuse you with another user for a moment so i withdraw what i wrote, your statements are not -nearly- as bad, sorry. However, this Hulk has taken energy blasts that oneshotted both pre core breach Hulk and Silver Surfer and he literally no sold them. Indestructible Hulk took a shot from bloodlusted Thanos and smiled it off. Hulk's durability has gone up quite a bit and while we can only guess at the limits of this Hulk's durability, i think he is well out of his league in taking on Thanos, but in his indestructible Hulk incarnation he took a LOT of punishment from Annihilus who later on was described by Thanos as his equal.

Durability wise, this Hulk is well above herald level. He still loses to Thanos, but it would be a much better fight than most people think imo. Case can be made that Thanos has to put in work to put this Hulk down.

@cull_obsidian: Not only that but thanos literally took full force blasts from galactus where galactus expended so much energy he went from overfed to hungry. he performed better against odin but odin didnt expend energies the way galactus did. and zeus outright stomped this hulk, and the same zeus has no feats anywhere close to odin, thanos or galactus.

these are nonsensical claims. when was thanos ever bloodlusted against hulk? in indestructible hulk he casually knocked hulk out without even exerting himself or expending any energies. hulk didnt smile off anything it took him a few panels to recover from the hit. every time thanos fought hulk he casually smacked him around and swatted him away or knocked him out.

annihilus isnt anywhere near thanos and even gladiator performed well against annihilus even better than hulk did.

herald level would be people like the silver surfer, superman, worthy thor. those guys have better durability showings than this hulk who got killed and turned to dust from red she hulk fighting him. and even if you try to say hulk has their durability, we already saw how easily thanos took out silver surfer before. hulk cant last as long as the silver surfer when it comes to physical, blunt force or draining attacks!

why would thanos ever need to put in work to take hulk down when zeus who is weaker than thanos didnt need to put in any work to take hulk down? someone who has faced down against galactus (and survived so much power from galactus that he went from overfed to hungry) is gonna have no trouble against someone like hulk

Thanos stomp's

Thanos walks strait through his gamma bursts, no-selling 'em like a champ and then proceeds to rip his head off. The only way you could argue for the Hulk, is by using Thanos's low ends.

Still Thanos. Still not even close.

only fists hulk wins thanos has said countless times he can't beat hulk this way and has ducked him twice

Thanos ducked him twice yet on panel has many wins over him and during infinity Thanos punched the Hulk miles away with little effort, Zeus stomped this Hulk and Thanos has greater feats than both combined to say he'd win this.

@comic_book_fan:

Thanos made a comment 30 year's ago in Thanos quest (during his fight with power gem Champion about avoiding a fight with Hulk) shortly after Death first resurrected him. Thanos was not yet aware of just how powerful Death made him at that time. As explained by Adam Warlock later in Infinity Watch.

@gilneas

Is this a joke of some sort? People really believe Hulk has a chance of beating Thanos?

nope

yep

world breaker/world war hulk never busted a planet.

contradiction. if he busted the planet with a shockwave then he would have killed red she hulk and himself with one blow and shockwave.

they punched themselves several times according to you, which means even using your logic the planet wasnt busted with one punch as you were claiming.

And Hulk has busted a planet on panel

Except he busted a planet with a shockwave, so wrong again

No they actually didn't and there are several panels showing themselves punching each other several times so obviously they didn't kill themselves with one blow, wrong again

How does one kill themselves with their own shockwave?

They punched themselves and with each punch busted a planet and it was remade ad infinitum, which was the entire point, it was both shown and stated in the comic

they didnt wish for the planet to be destroyed yet they did wish for everyone to fight, die, and fight again.

and what happened on panel? they fought, then everyone (including the planet itself) got destroyed. then everyone (including the planet) came back.

what does that tell us? oh, right. that the wish obviously both destroyed and brought back the planet. if the planet did not get destroyed due to the wish, then the planet would have remained destroyed while hulk and everyone else came back to life.

and again they didn't wish for the planet do be destroyed

and it had nothing to do with WBH unleashing his power because his power is his own

the wish didn't amp WBH so no

because WBH wished to be stuck in an endless loop where everything gets brought back once it gets destroyed

the writer doesnt have more saying than the marvel company or what happens on panel so no. and you also dont understand the difference between being immortal vs not being able to die. immortal people dont die of old age but can be killed by damage output. we know hulk can die because he has died many, many times in the 616 universe, and every time he died, every single time he died, he remained completely dead until another powerful being or force brought him back to life.

mental gymnastics do not justify more mental gymnastics. so your saying hulk stayed dead because banner wanted to stay dead but now hulk doesnt want to stay dead so he came back? yeah thats bullshit, anyone who read the storylines or looked them up would see hulk was resurrected by the challenger to fight the avengers and do his dirty work in the game. i dont care about banner dying, i never mentioned banner dying. im talking about HULK dying. Hulk himself has been killed multiple times in the 616 universe. Hulk, not banner. if hulk could bring himself back to life he would not have stayed dead for years upon years yet he did.

Al Ewing: Because this is going to be a very good comic, and hopefully unlike any Hulk comic you’ve read before. It’s a comic about a monster who can’t die. It’s about a man who believes he can use the darkest elements of his personality to do good in the world, and where that belief leads him. It’s about mortality, atonement and denial. It’s about all the parts of ourselves we don’t like to look at. It’s a horror comic. And if we’ve done even half the job I think we have, it’ll be one of the most talked-about comics of 2018.

https://www.cbr.com/immortal-hulk-bruce-banner-al-ewing-joe-bennett-interview/

On top of that nobody is saying Hulk will come back if some abstract being comes along snaps his fingers and erases Hulk from existence and stops his ability to come back, what is going on at the moment is that Hulk can no longer die by conventional means and stay dead.

This is the problem with people that come here trying to debunk things about a character they know little about, that's flat out false since even since the 90's it was hinted that Hulk is immortal and that he would always find a way to come back as death doesn't have the same meaning to them as it does to normal beings

The elder is no the one who revived the Hulk and it no power primordial is meantioned anywhere, it was confirmed by the writer himself that it was Hulk who came back himself and that Challenger only gave him a nudge no more

Which is further illustrated by the Hulk comic that just came out where SPOILERS Bruce Banner gets killed, he literally dies from a bullet through his brain and is dead for several hours until he literally brings himself back to life as Hulk, no Challenger there, no power primordial and you can also get used to that because according to the writer that's gonna be a theme as Banner is gonna die a few times in the comic but he will never stay dead.

So i dunno where you keep bringing up the power primordial from since no such thing was ever mentioned anywhere in the comic, you are literally pulling it out of your ass. Cho draining Banner of gamma didn't take away his Hulk, it was revealed that Cho got his own Hulk but Banner still had his own Hulk trapped inside him, it's why he feared it and made a deal with Hawkeye to kill him if he ever sees a sign of the Hulk coming back. The Hulk also came back TWICE before Challenger, first time back in Uncanny Avengers

the same lightning bolts which effortlessly koed hulk and even amped versions of world war hulk were no sold by thanos. actually thor did knock him out there, it was clear as day seeing as how hulk couldnt even move or speak after thor hit him. before that in almost every fight the fight ended with thor knocking him out and in addition to that they have a goku/vegeta style rivalry where thor has always been shown as one step above hulk no matter how hulk enrages or powers up, then you have hulk dreaming of beating thor all the time which automatically confirms he has never actually beaten thor since he wouldn't dream about defeating thor if he had ever done so. no, hulks been one shotted by thanos every single time they fought, and thanos one shotted him casually without exerting himself.

yeah that fight thats going to take place after hulk gets possessed and amped by an unknown being known as the one below all. the one below all might be powerful, doesnt mean hulk is that strong. thanos would no sell an onslaught of attacks from world breaker hulk and could tear him apart physically if he chose to do so.

When he fought Professor Hulk disguised as Maestro(Thor was also under the influence of Warrior Madness at the time and was willing to kill Hulk)

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When he fought Mindless Hulk who he wanted to fight to the death as stated by his own words

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And when he fought Nul Hulk who he explicitly wanted to kill

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In none of these 3 instances did he even manage to knock out Hulk let alone kill him as he wanted. Even in the 1 instance you brought up were he did knock out Hulk it was from a surprise attack to the back of the head, as in the same fight Hulk tanked a lightning attack from Thor to the chest.

This is also Hulk not only prior to his core breach amp, but also nowhere near his WWH levels. As Green Scar he already tanked lightning from a Skyfather and anything from continent busting to planet busting attacks(all before going to his WBH mode).

lol so when an amped hulk got knocked out and couldnt move or speak you used mental gymnastics and tried referring to it as a bfr but when hulk stomps on thor, ragdolls him and repeatedly punches him, and thor just stands right back up with a bloody nose, you refer to that as a 3 shot?

for it to be a 3 shot you have to actually knock someone out in 3 shots, like when thanos knocked hulk out in one hit. hitting someone 3 times and giving them a bloody nose or lip does not count as a 3 shot.

hulk has literally never koed thor or even come close to doing so other than a couple instances where he A) caught thor by surprise and B) used thors own hammer to knock him out.

whether surfer is susceptible to draining or blunt force is irrelevant the fact is surfers blunt force resistance is still well above hulks and likewise his draining resistance is still well above hulks. hulk has been killed by hawkeyes technology as well as drained by ironmans technology while surfer hasnt been harmed or drained by either of those things.

Nul never got knocked out we just see him in space holding on to the hammer which wouldn't be possible if he was KO'd and immediately falling and speaking and moving and everything, but after Hulk 3-shot Thor he was still not moving, laying in a awkward position and eventually SLOWLY and PAINFULLY as the comic says started to rise up only after Hulk had already casually walked away from him.

Now here are a few instances of Hulk 1-shotting Thor twice, 3-shotting and 4-shotting him.

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the one in the Avengers is kinda iffy since we don't see what happened later but it is presumed Thor was knocked out by Hulk there since the next time we see him he is captured.

its the same hulk, he was angry as ever in the zeus fight, the anger didnt help him nor save him.

Wrong as always, in fact this Hulk had trouble just getting angry prior to his fight with Zeus, Banner had to ask Hercules to punch him just to transform into the Hulk so he was at the bottom of his anger

you cannot use fan fiction stories as feats or evidence

Oh you are so adorable you poor thing, Hulk fans have been messing with you so much these past couple of years.

skyfathers use magic when they choose to do so, having access to magic power doesnt mean youre using magic power 24/7. zeus used absolutely no "magic" in his hulk fight, if you saw the fight you would have seen he beat hulk down physically with punches, because he is physically stronger and tougher.

actually it was, it was stated on panel by pak that hulk may be the strongest there is among mortals.

zeus shattering hulks entire ribcage and making him vomit then no selling all of hulks hits confirms that he is physically stronger than hulk as well as much tougher.

the fight was h2h. zeus never summoned magic or energy blasts. pak can claim whatever he wants in interviews yet the fact is other heroes can and have performed better against zeus than hulk did. author interviews dont matter especially not when the authors have a track record of being biased, inconsistent or illogical in their responses and interviews.

From Greg Paks interview

8. Some readers weren't too happy with the Hulk getting beaten up by Zeus. Any comments about that battle?

I think it’s important for every character to have a limit. That was a story about the Hulk going too far. No matter how strong you are, even if you’re the strongest mortal on the planet, you can’t force the hand of God. On another level, that story was all about the Hulk going for a shortcut. He wanted

That being said, no one on Earth could have done as well as the Hulk did in that fight.

And it’s also questionable whether Zeus kept his word in the end. It was supposed to be a purely mano-a-mano battle, right? But isn’t Zeus throwing a lightning bolt at the end?

Here Pak tells us that Zeus cheated as it was supposed to be H2H, but he used lightning.

Hephaestus also implies that Hulk will only heal fast enough just so that the vultures could eat him over and over.

which obviously implies his healing factor is tempered.

Even if you play the stubborn card and ignore the comic or the writers own words and so Hulks healing factor wasn't tempered with that still doesn't take away from the fact that Zeus did not fight him H2H and anyone that literally isn't blind can see that Zeus used lightning in virtually every punch he threw at Hulk

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The reason why the conclusion is that Hulks healing factor was tempered with is the fact that SEVERAL DAYS after the fight with Zeus it was shown to still be only at 7%

So seeing as you like to ask absolute and specific questions show me a scan that says "Hulks healing factor wasn't tempered with" or at least a more compelling argument as to how Zeus fought Hulk purely in H2H without the use of magic or tempering with his healing factor/durability. Because i don't care how hard Zeus beats up Hulk, you don't just suddenly get impaled by rocks or eaten by vultures unless some magic was involved that tempered with your body

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yes zeus was weakened. no on the contrary you've randomly invented excuses every time hulk loses a fight. your arguments are so easy to debunk because they are the same basic points just reworded or regurgitated in a different form. when hulks been beaten in a fight by anyone you either deny it ever happened, if that doesnt work youll say he was weakened by invisible magic, if that doesnt work youll say he wasnt angry or wasnt seeking vengeance and so on. zeus casually broke hulks ribcage with one blow while weakened by umar and in addition zeus wasnt exerting himself. the official statement was that hulks ribcage was shattered so it wasnt broken as in dislocated, shattered means it broke into a ton of small pieces that cannot be put back together.

Show proof where it was stated or shown Zeus was weakened? Comic? Scan? Citation?

Umm no the entire reason thanos put maestro as his pet was because maestro was extremely scared of him, didnt even fight him, and posed no threat to him unlike galactus and odinforce thor and other characters who posed a serious threat to thanos. you cannot use mental gymnastics to justify mental gymnastics.

you failed to provide a scan of maestro tanking the same attacks from thanos that he used to kill galactus or thor. you failed to provide a scan of hulk regrowing a ribcage or of him regrowing a head.

Thanos casually one-shot Thor and Galactus so they were no threat to him at all, but he couldn't kill Hulk that's why he kept him for millions of years

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Sure

it took hulk a year to heal the ribcage and he had to have a surgical operation performed on him so no he never "regrew" a new ribcage. that's false he never regrew a head, he had to find his chopped off head and reattach it to the rest of his body.

This is literal fanfiction, he healed the ribcage quite quickly actually despite his healing factor being down to 7% and there was no operation preforemd on him, he actually regrew Banners head and then reattached his own head to his body which just shows how ridiculously OP Hulks healing factor is when it can reattach perfectly with all the nerves and when he can't even die after his head gets chopped off.

umm no, people have cut off his head before and he couldnt heal. when his ribcage was shattered he couldnt regrow one. if he was able to regrow limbs he would have done it yet when his limbs or head was removed or cut off he failed to heal it which means anytime thanos rips a limb off it will prove fatal for hulk.

When? Comic? Citation? He literally regrew one despite his healing factor being dampened. Listen how utterly brainless you are, removing limbs would be fatal to Hulk yet in the same sentence you acknowledged he didn't die despite his head being chopped off, Hulk can't die.

Thanos casually one shots or kills hulk in every encounter they have. he also easily killed cancer verse hulk who is equal to 616 hulks and has the same feats as 616 hulk and has also been beaten and killed by the same characters who beat or killed him in 616.

Nope he never did unfortunately, even at the height of his own power when he was one-shotting abstract beings, he still couldn't kill Hulk.

the planet got vaporized due to the wish then the planet reformed due to the wish. hulks original wish was for everyone to fight, die, then fight again, yet the mechanism that was achieved through was via the entire planet and all its inhabitants dying then reforming along with the planet. if the planet getting destroyed had nothing to do with the wish then the planet would not have regenerated and reformed along with hulk and others. yet what happened was hulk, red she hulk and everyone else were vaporized and died, and then were reformed and brought back to life along with the planet.

Nope had nothing to do with the wish.

what pak said in an interview does not matter, interviews dont create feats, comics do. pak and anyone else can say whatever they want. pak might intend or wish for him to be a planet buster, yet in reality pak wrote tons and tons of hulk books yet failed to have him actually bust a planet on panel. statements are not feats. its flat out confirmed that the planet busted due to the wish, because after being busted the planet REFORMED. If the planet didnt get destroyed from the wish then how the hell did it magically come back into existence when hulk and everyone else came back to life? dont tell me hulk has some magical powers he used to regenerate the planet back into existence? no obviously not, clearly the planet both destroyed and came back to existence due to the wish and the wish alone. worldbreaker hulk can only bust a planet by repeatedly smashing and stomping through it. meanwhile thanos can bust one casually with a punch if he wants to.

Yes it does, at the very least it means more than what you say which is less then nothing since you are purposefully trolling and lying about things.

Yea none of them really have the strength to really block WWH, he is WAY stronger than them and as for durability, WWH has already turned peoples faces who are equal to Thors durability(and even higher) into pizza. Staggering someone and actually affecting them enough to take them out are 2 different things, Hercules has literally staggered Galactus of all people with his blows, doesn't mean he comes close to taking him out. The same thing with WWH who he sucker punched, this is the same WWH who was taking hits from ZomStrange powerful enough to blow holes through his stomach(he was literally hitting WWH so hard his fists came out the other side of Hulks torso, as well as shooting his magic inside his blown out torso and ZomStrange still didn't take him out as he was outhealing it all).

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Far too easy.

Thanos stomps.

@hellionvulcan: hulk smiled at him and charged thanos had one of his minions protect him.

and zeus would destroy thanos too and hulk threw the fight against zeus anyway

@gilneas: Hephaestus also implies that Hulk will only heal fast enough just so that the vultures could eat him over and over.

which obviously implies his healing factor is tempered.

Even if you play the stubborn card and ignore the comic or the writers own words and so Hulks healing factor wasn't tempered with that still doesn't take away from the fact that Zeus did not fight him H2H and anyone that literally isn't blind can see that Zeus used lightning in virtually every punch he threw at Hulk

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The reason why the conclusion is that Hulks healing factor was tempered with is the fact that SEVERAL DAYS after the fight with Zeus it was shown to still be only at 7%

So seeing as you like to ask absolute and specific questions show me a scan that says "Hulks healing factor wasn't tempered with" or at least a more compelling argument as to how Zeus fought Hulk purely in H2H without the use of magic or tempering with his healing factor/durability. Because i don't care how hard Zeus beats up Hulk, you don't just suddenly get impaled by rocks or eaten by vultures unless some magic was involved that tempered with your body.

>What happened on panel contradicts my feelings applies here<

Because Zeus hit Hulk so hard that his durability and healing factor could not cope with what was being done to him (hence why it took the Hulk so long to recover) and trying change the narrative to meet your deluded view of the fight won't change that Zeus is fully capable of murdering the Hulk any time he wants without an issue. "Because i don't care how hard Zeus beats up Hulk, you don't just suddenly get impaled by rocks or eaten by vultures unless some magic was involved that tempered with your body." not unless a skyfather dominates you in a physical fist fight leaving your body completely broken and weakened, which in turn would allow Zeus to impale and chain up the Hulk to be eaten by magical Vultures as it's all clearly shown on panel.

Hulk smiled when he recovered as he sent Glaive and Midnight to annihilate the Hulk while Thanos went after Thor and co instead, I do agree with you that Zeus would beat Thanos in a physical fight though and citation needed of the thrown fight comment.

@cull_obsidian: Listen here. Stop giving out commands like it's gospel. You speak for yourself, i speak for myself. That's what happens in an exchange.

Everything i have said is tranparent and fact. I keep images to a minimum unless apsolutley needed. At the moment, they are not needed IMO (i make that call), as nothing has been shown to me that disproves my points. The only facts that get thrown my way are that the Hulk takes some beatings. That's IT. What happens next, ah yes, the Hulk comes back stronger, never stays down and grows from every battle. Each and every comic that has exchanges between these two show that. Hulk smashes Thanos around and then Thanos chucks some hits back, mostly energy blasts which is like sending adamantium Wolverine in to solo Magnito i.e futile. It doesn't work, the Hulk just gets back up.

I have clearly stated that Thanos has the ability to push Hulk to far, that's the rub. FACT. I have clearly stated that the Hulks power and level have jumped up through the years from battle to battle. FACT. Consider Thanos, as the fule needed to set the Hulk alight because the purple man is the one guy, who time and time again has sought to attack everything the Hulk fights for, and everyone he cares for. He forces the green guys hand, it's inevitable here. There is only one winner for me, and it's the Hulk.

I suggest you get off of your high horse, stop using mob mentalitly and think for your self. I've had positive response since i joined this fun battle, not that i need to justifiy it. So chill and enjoy....jees. Look forward to your response.

@20damon: Whanking the hulk off, that made me chuckle.

Reading some of your later posts, i would disagree that the Hulk would eventually be put down. I would argue the flip side, that Thanos, after an epic battle ends up being the biggest thorn in the Hulks side, and gets plucked.

@thehierarchy: Haha why lock a battle that clearly isn't as straight forward as you're making out. I like how add in one final swipe for your chosen winner! Thanos can't keep the Hulk down.

How is it not straightforward? No feats Hulk has performed cannot be performed with much greater ease by Thanos. Thanos is just superior to Hulk.

Oh here comes the dude that thinks Gladiator is top tier, alternate Gambit who can't even blow up a planet is above SS and Apoc is someone close to Thanos among other ludicrous opinions he holds to tell me about feelings changing someones narrative, the irony in this is enough to kill a man. Zeus hitting Hulk hard to the point where his healing factor and durability almost completely stop working is nonsense, Hulk has LITERALLY even been KILLED and yet his healing factor has healed him and brought him back from death itself, so Hulks healing factor being turned off because he got a beating from Zeus that isn't even in the top 5 worst beatings Hulk has gotten makes no sense on top of that ZomStrange hit Hulk even harder to the point of literally showing his entire fist through Hulks stomach and breaking his bones and yet Hulk still recovered immediately.

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Hulk got a worse beating here but he still managed to recover and fight back

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Or how about when Hulk got his entire body shredded like Swiss cheese by adamantium bullets and Skaars old power and yet still recovered and fought back

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Or how about the fact that Hulks healing factor wasn't compromised even when the Void broke every single bone in Hulks body? Or when he got most of his flesh burnt off him by Vector? Or when he inhaled the Pandoras box that unleashed enough power INSIDE his body comparable to 133.45 Hercs(one Herc being the maximum energy Hercules can exert in a single punch) and yet Hulk heals from it

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And this is a "physical fist fight"(your exact words)

now using lightning with every attack is considered a "physical fist fight"???

Ok lets shut down this pathetic attempt at an argument from you and you trying to twist what i am trying to say

1. Yes Zeus can absolutely destroy Hulk this is not a debate about that.

2. As shown on panel and confirmed by the writer himself(so you can go and cry to him about "feelings") Zeus actually "cheated" as he did not fight Hulk exclusively in H2H, but used magic.

3. Show me a SINGLE time, i repeat A SINGLE TIME Hulk got his ass beat up so hard where his healing factor and durability got messed up and he couldn't recover as fast or tank things he previously could. This is your GOLDEN opportunity, if you provide me with just ONE instance of that you can completely shut my argument.

Otherwise don't come to me with your half assed attempt at an argument while literally ignoring on panel evidence and writers own words, if there is someone arguing here with their feelings and delusional views on the fight itself, it's you, for not providing a single argument to actually back up your claims as well as explaining to me why you call it a "physical fist fight" when Zeus used lightning constantly, why you accuse me of using "feels" when Greg Pak himself stated that Zeus had cheated in the fight and why you can't provide a single scan of Hulk getting his ass beat by someone else to the point of his healing and durability being compromised.

Your move.

@thehierarchy: It's not straight forward because opinions are divided, and rightly so. It's a good battle. If you think saying 3 or 4 words, followed by the end proves this, then you are sadly mistaken.

The Hulk goes from strenght to strenght. In one direction, he's pretty linear. Thanos on the other hand is troubled, conflicted, always wrong and has to aid his limited abilities. He fails.

One gets up scarily stronger, the other doesnt.

I don't know why anyone even gives you the time of day since to me you are an obvious troll but your arguments are absolute nonsense.

Linear what? What does that even matter, Thanos is conflicted, troubled? WHAT? The hell are you saying lol.

Thanos actually gets scarily stronger, Hulks own strength so far has brought him only as high as planet busting, Thanos on the other hand with his own power has taken down abstract beings and is meant to get more and more powerful as time goes on. Hulk is not beating Thanos, not even in a pure physical fight.

@gilneas: I'm no troll. I've never once called anyone names, or sent our accusations. Because i don't need to back up my arguments with this type of talk. It just proves me even more right. I'm here for the battle, and the winner i have picked is the correct one.

Thanos is limited. The Hulks abilities are not, and he can't be killed by this guy, and can take everything he can offer, plus more. Thanos knows this.

And are you kidding? In a pure physical fight, he gets owned before the hulk gets even remotley pissed off. I'm at least giving the guy a stand up chance, even if it sends the Hulk into overdrive.

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@hellionvulcan said:

@gilneas: Hephaestus also implies that Hulk will only heal fast enough just so that the vultures could eat him over and over.

which obviously implies his healing factor is tempered.

Even if you play the stubborn card and ignore the comic or the writers own words and so Hulks healing factor wasn't tempered with that still doesn't take away from the fact that Zeus did not fight him H2H and anyone that literally isn't blind can see that Zeus used lightning in virtually every punch he threw at Hulk

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The reason why the conclusion is that Hulks healing factor was tempered with is the fact that SEVERAL DAYS after the fight with Zeus it was shown to still be only at 7%

So seeing as you like to ask absolute and specific questions show me a scan that says "Hulks healing factor wasn't tempered with" or at least a more compelling argument as to how Zeus fought Hulk purely in H2H without the use of magic or tempering with his healing factor/durability. Because i don't care how hard Zeus beats up Hulk, you don't just suddenly get impaled by rocks or eaten by vultures unless some magic was involved that tempered with your body.

>What happened on panel contradicts my feelings applies here<

Because Zeus hit Hulk so hard that his durability and healing factor could not cope with what was being done to him (hence why it took the Hulk so long to recover) and trying change the narrative to meet your deluded view of the fight won't change that Zeus is fully capable of murdering the Hulk any time he wants without an issue. "Because i don't care how hard Zeus beats up Hulk, you don't just suddenly get impaled by rocks or eaten by vultures unless some magic was involved that tempered with your body." not unless a skyfather dominates you in a physical fist fight leaving your body completely broken and weakened, which in turn would allow Zeus to impale and chain up the Hulk to be eaten by magical Vultures as it's all clearly shown on panel.

Oh here comes the dude that thinks Gladiator is top tier, alternate Gambit who can't even blow up a planet is above SS and Apoc is someone close to Thanos among other ludicrous opinions he holds to tell me about feelings changing someones narrative, the irony in this is enough to suffocate a person. Zeus hitting Hulk hard to the point where his healing factor and durability almost completely stop working is nonsense because ZomStrange hit Hulk even harder to the point of literally showing his entire fist through Hulks stomach and breaking his bones and yet Hulk still recovered immediately.

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Hulk got a worse beating here but he still managed to recover and fight back

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Or how about when Hulk got his entire body shredded like Swiss cheese by adamantium bullets and Skaars old power and yet still recovered and fought back

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Or how about the fact that Hulks healing factor wasn't compromised even when the Void broke every single bone in Hulks body? Or when he got most of his flesh burnt off him by Vector? Or when he inhaled the Pandoras box that unleashed enough power INSIDE his body comparable to 133.45 Hercs(one Herc being the maximum energy Hercules can exert in a single punch) and yet Hulk heals from it

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And this is a "physical fist fight"(your exact words)

now using lightning is considered a "physical fist fight"???

Ok lets shut down this pathetic attempt at an argument from you and you trying to twist what i am trying to say

1. Yes Zeus can absolutely destroy Hulk this is not a debate about that.

2. As shown on panel and confirmed by the writer himself(so you can go and cry to him about "feelings") Zeus actually "cheated" as he did not fight Hulk exclusively in H2H, but used magic.

3. Show me a SINGLE time, i repeat A SINGLE TIME Hulk got his ass beat up so hard where his healing factor and durability got messed up and he couldn't recover as fast or tank things he previously could. This is your GOLDEN opportunity, if you provide me with one instance of that you can completely shut my argument, otherwise stick to wanking trash characters like Gladiator and do not for a second think to even presume you are gonna lecture me on Hulk.

Seems i hit a nerve with this one to bring up nonsense i have never stated and rely solely on ad hominems but hurt feelings does that to a person.

It took the Hulk days to a week (IIRC) to heal from what the Void did to him LOL and again keep using character's that are no where close to Zeus for your failed "arguments".

Trying to compare other character's to Zeus is hilarious considering none of them are skyfather level nor any where close to Zeus in overall power or physical might, Zeus hit Hulk with lighting before the fight (And threatened him with a missed shot during) as Hulk was down but got up unharmed, i can link the entire fight if you want full context as it's in reverse order.

In terms of physical might/striking Zeus>Thanos >>>>Hulk. Note nothing backs up any of your claims because they'll always be unfounded and illogical compared to what happened on panel.

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@bayman007: What? This makes no sense whatsoever. Thanos has always been incredibly smart and cunning, and has only gotten stronger throughout his career. I dont understand your argument here.

@gilneas: I agree with you on the outcome of this battle, but without prep Thanos has never taken down an abstract on his own as far as Im aware.

He still wrecks Hulk here though lol.

@thehierarchy: It makes perfect sense. He is super smart, but the issue here is his ego that goes along with it. He will always fail because of his hubris. He would go into another fight with the Hulk over confident as usual, and it will be his downfall in this battle.

@hellionvulcan: Seems i hit a nerve with this one to bring up nonsense i have never stated and rely solely on ad hominems but hurt feelings does that to a person.

You want me to dig up your posts where you think Gladiator can compete and beat guys like Thor or Hulk or saying Sun Gambit can beat both SS and Iceman together and Apoc is close to Thanos? I can do that for you if you want, or do you DENY actually holding those opinions? Think carefully what you wanna say here.

It took the Hulk days to a week (IIRC) to heal from what the Void did to him LOL and again keep using character's that are no where close to Zeus for your failed "arguments".

Nope it was never stated how long it took him to heal, just that Reed Richards said he will recover quickly thanks to his healing factor. The characters don't need to be on Zeus level, they only need to beat the crap out of Hulk, you are not gonna move the goalpost on this one. And as i already showed ZomStrange beat the crap out of Hulk much more then Zeus did, he literally made his entire massive fist go through Hulks stomach and go to the other side obliterating his inner organs and lighting up fireworks inside his body

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the giant fist sized wound can be seen from Hulks back

Trying to compare other character's to Zeus is hilarious considering none of them are skyfather level nor any where close to Zeus in overall power or physical might, Zeus hit Hulk with lighting before the fight (And threatened him with a missed shot during) as Hulk was down but got up unharmed, i can link the entire fight if you want full context as it's in reverse order.

Never compared any of them to Zeus, i compared the beating Hulk got from them to the beating Hulk got from Zeus. ZomStrange actually beat Hulk far more than Zeus did. Zeus hit Hulk with lightning SECONDS before the 2 started fighting and Hulk got up looking unharmend only because that's what his healing factor does, that does not mean he was UNHARMED as he got dropped immediately and the lightning was literally coming out/going in out of his eyes, nose and was cracking his skin

and i love how you try to downplay it as well as try to make it like he got hit by him a day before they fought and not literally seconds before they started fighting. Not to mention just how big the lightning itself was which was covering the entire top of mount Olympus

In terms of physical might/striking Zeus>Thanos >>>>Hulk. Note nothing backs up any of your claims because they'll always be unfounded and illogical compared to what happened on panel.

That's debatable because Zeus has so little in terms of feats compared to Thanos and i don't know why you put Hulk there as if Hulk is up for a debate. Actually everything i said is backed up by logic and what happened on panel as well as off panel with Greg Paks interview, you literally are full of nonsense as well as trying to blatantly downplay and ignore things as i've pointed out and curbstomped in your argumentt. In fact you barely even have an argument even in this post and you try to hide that fact by scan dumping the entire fight for literally no reason other than you just want to show to me that you too can post scans, even if they have no relevance to anything and are not tied to any of the arguments or points you are trying to make.

Seems you forgot about this part

Forgot about how? The part where Zeus blatantly contradicts himself saying he will kill Hulk with his own hands, yet he immediately proceeds to use magic with the second punch he throws at Hulk and then several others later? Did you also notice the part where i said Zeus CHEATED? The same thing Greg Pak said? Let me remind you

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8. Some readers weren't too happy with the Hulk getting beaten up by Zeus. Any comments about that battle?

I think it’s important for every character to have a limit. That was a story about the Hulk going too far. No matter how strong you are, even if you’re the strongest mortal on the planet, you can’t force the hand of God. On another level, that story was all about the Hulk going for a shortcut. He wanted

That being said, no one on Earth could have done as well as the Hulk did in that fight.

And it’s also questionable whether Zeus kept his word in the end. It was supposed to be a purely mano-a-mano battle, right? But isn’t Zeus throwing a lightning bolt at the end?

Also again i am not sure what scan dumping the entire fight to me is suppose to prove? You just posted the entire fight for literally no reason as some kind of a "gotcha" moment but you haven't shown on what exactly you got me other than you got yourself because you are the one that said it was "physical fist fight" and you can clearly see from either mine or your scans that it's not. You still haven't rebuked these things so i will post them again

2. As shown on panel and confirmed by the writer himself(so you can go and cry to him about "feelings") Zeus actually "cheated" as he did not fight Hulk exclusively in H2H, but used magic.

3. Show me a SINGLE time, i repeat A SINGLE TIME Hulk got his ass beat up so hard where his healing factor and durability got messed up and he couldn't recover as fast or tank things he previously could. This is your GOLDEN opportunity, if you provide me with just ONE instance of that you can completely shut my argument.

So show me in what way Zeus didn't "cheat" as in explain to me how Zeus DIDN'T use magic when there are a total of 4 pages of Zeus using lightning or lightning enhanced punches on Hulk and yet you called this a "physical fist fight".

And also show me a single other time Hulk got beaten up so badly his healing factor and durability were compromised, you've stated it took him a week to heal from the Void which is untrue unless you can show me scans that back that up?

He has and i am referring to Old King Thanos from his latest comics, he was one-shotting guys like OF Thor and Galactus as well as beat pretty much every abstract out there.

Of course there is also this version of Thanos that he is suppose to become one day

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In fact his own power is suppose to lead him to fall somewhere above characters such as Lord Chaos and Master Order but below Eternity and Infinity

@bayman007: Thanos is rarely overconfident, and his ego takes second place below logic. So I still don't understand what you mean with this.

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@thehierarchy said:

@gilneas: I agree with you on the outcome of this battle, but without prep Thanos has never taken down an abstract on his own as far as Im aware.

He still wrecks Hulk here though lol.

He has and i am referring to Old King Thanos from his latest comics, he was one-shotting guys like OF Thor and Galactus as well as beat pretty much every abstract out there.

Of course there is also this version of Thanos that he is suppose to become one day

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In fact his own power is suppose to lead him to fall somewhere above characters such as Lord Chaos and Master Order but below Eternity and Infinity

1. Yeah that one did have some power, but the story was pretty weird power wise so I take it with a grain of salt.

2. That's Death-Thanos, not really the one here.

3. "Eventually" as it would be pretty strange if Thanos was now an abstract being that is going to assemble the IG (in the newest comics).

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@gilneas said:

@thehierarchy said:

@gilneas: I agree with you on the outcome of this battle, but without prep Thanos has never taken down an abstract on his own as far as Im aware.

He still wrecks Hulk here though lol.

He has and i am referring to Old King Thanos from his latest comics, he was one-shotting guys like OF Thor and Galactus as well as beat pretty much every abstract out there.

Of course there is also this version of Thanos that he is suppose to become one day

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In fact his own power is suppose to lead him to fall somewhere above characters such as Lord Chaos and Master Order but below Eternity and Infinity

1. Yeah that one did have some power, but the story was pretty weird power wise so I take it with a grain of salt.

2. That's Death-Thanos, not really the one here.

3. "Eventually" as it would be pretty strange if Thanos was now an abstract being that is going to assemble the IG (in the newest comics).

The story had a lot of inconsistencies and blatant PIS, but still proves the point i was making as Thanos was beating the crap out of everyone from Earths heroes to abstract beings.

I know but we are talking about hypoethticals as that's what i was arguing with the other guy who keeps insisting that Hulk would become something more than Thanos.

Yes eventually.

@gilneas: I agree with all of it yeah.

This is still a mismatch.

@thehierarchy: His ego is a major weakness. The guy is mad, so logic with this guy disapears extremely quickly. He litterly self destructs, because he is a fraud. I could list these facts all day.

Maybe you can't accept he has limits and these weaknesses at all, or don't see them as such. I could go as far as saying you put it all down to a dad day at the office. We'll that's not true.

The Hulk will only take so much of him being so far up his own butt in this battle, pushing him over the edge. And I stand by the green winner.

1. Well Im interested, point out those instances that weren't later removed by character development.

2. He has limits for sure, but so far above Hulk's level of power it doesn't matter.

3. Nope, the only winner today will be purple with one hell of a chin.

@thehierarchy: You're starting to sound like Thanos youself there....limits that don't matter. Come on now. You're cherry picking. You think that character development, making tweaks, mean that all weaknesses mentioned no longer count?

The purple ballchinian gets tanned, with a faint whimper of 'nope, he didn't beat me' as he gets turned into to a pile of mush.

I still don't udnerstand your argument here, Thanos doesn't have a specific weakness, he has limits to his power (like everyone not omnipotent, which includes Hulk) but those limits don't even need to be mentioned as Thanos will exert practically no effort killing Hulk here. Thanos has beaten a starbuster in his very first appearance, Hulk has at his very best destroyed a planet.

Other way around my man.

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@hellionvulcan: Seems i hit a nerve with this one to bring up nonsense i have never stated and rely solely on ad hominems but hurt feelings does that to a person.

You want me to dig up your posts where you think Gladiator can compete and beat guys like Thor or Hulk or saying Sun Gambit can beat both SS and Iceman together and Apoc is close to Thanos? I can do that for you if you want, or do you DENY actually holding those opinions? Think carefully what you wanna say here.

It took the Hulk days to a week (IIRC) to heal from what the Void did to him LOL and again keep using character's that are no where close to Zeus for your failed "arguments".

Nope it was never stated how long it took him to heal, just that Reed Richards said he will recover quickly thanks to his healing factor. The characters don't need to be on Zeus level, they only need to beat the crap out of Hulk, you are not gonna move the goalpost on this one. And as i already showed ZomStrange beat the crap out of Hulk much more then Zeus did, he literally made his entire massive fist go through Hulks stomach and go to the other side obliterating his inner organs and lighting up fireworks inside his body

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Trying to compare other character's to Zeus is hilarious considering none of them are skyfather level nor any where close to Zeus in overall power or physical might, Zeus hit Hulk with lighting before the fight (And threatened him with a missed shot during) as Hulk was down but got up unharmed, i can link the entire fight if you want full context as it's in reverse order.

Never compared any of them to Zeus, i compared the beating Hulk got from them to the beating Hulk got from Zeus. ZomStrange actually beat Hulk far more than Zeus did. Zeus hit Hulk with lightning SECONDS before the 2 started fighting and Hulk got up looking unharmend only because that's what his healing factor does, that does not mean he was UNHARMED as he got dropped immediately and the lightning was literally coming out/going in out of his eyes, nose and was cracking his skin

and i love how you try to downplay it as well as try to make it like he got hit by him a day before they fought and not literally seconds before they started fighting. Not to mention just how big the lightning itself was which was covering the entire top of mount Olympus

In terms of physical might/striking Zeus>Thanos >>>>Hulk. Note nothing backs up any of your claims because they'll always be unfounded and illogical compared to what happened on panel.

That's debatable because Zeus has so little in terms of feats compared to Thanos and i don't know why you put Hulk there as if Hulk is up for a debate. Actually everything i said is backed up by logic and what happened on panel as well as off panel with Greg Paks interview, you literally are full of nonsense as well as trying to blatantly downplay and ignore things as i've pointed out and curbstomped in your argumentt. In fact you barely even have an argument even in this post and you try to hide that fact by scan dumping the entire fight for literally no reason other than you just want to show to me that you too can post scans, even if they have no relevance to anything and are not tied to any of the arguments or points you are trying to make.

Seems you forgot about this part

Forgot about how? The part where Zeus blatantly contradicts himself saying he will kill Hulk with his own hands, yet he immediately proceeds to use magic with the second punch he throws at Hulk and then several others later? Did you also notice the part where i said Zeus CHEATED? The same thing Greg Pak said? Let me remind you

From Greg Paks interview

8. Some readers weren't too happy with the Hulk getting beaten up by Zeus. Any comments about that battle?

I think it’s important for every character to have a limit. That was a story about the Hulk going too far. No matter how strong you are, even if you’re the strongest mortal on the planet, you can’t force the hand of God. On another level, that story was all about the Hulk going for a shortcut. He wanted

That being said, no one on Earth could have done as well as the Hulk did in that fight.

And it’s also questionable whether Zeus kept his word in the end. It was supposed to be a purely mano-a-mano battle, right? But isn’t Zeus throwing a lightning bolt at the end?

Also again i am not sure what scan dumping the entire fight to me is suppose to prove? You just posted the entire fight for literally no reason as some kind of a "gotcha" moment but you haven't shown on what exactly you got me other than you got yourself because you are the one that said it was "physical fist fight" and you can clearly see from either mine or your scans that it's not. You still haven't rebuked these things so i will post them again

2. As shown on panel and confirmed by the writer himself(so you can go and cry to him about "feelings") Zeus actually "cheated" as he did not fight Hulk exclusively in H2H, but used magic.

3. Show me a SINGLE time, i repeat A SINGLE TIME Hulk got his ass beat up so hard where his healing factor and durability got messed up and he couldn't recover as fast or tank things he previously could. This is your GOLDEN opportunity, if you provide me with just ONE instance of that you can completely shut my argument.

So show me in what way Zeus didn't "cheat" as in explain to me how Zeus DIDN'T use magic when there are a total of 4 pages of Zeus using lightning or lightning enhanced punches on Hulk and yet you called this a "physical fist fight".

And also show me a single other time Hulk got beaten up so badly his healing factor and durability were compromised, you've stated it took him a week to heal from the Void which is untrue unless you can show me scans that back that up?

Paks interview doesn't matter so stop bringing it up since we go by what's on panel not what you think happened or whatever excuse you want to make.

2. As shown on panel and confirmed by the writer himself(so you can go and cry to him about "feelings") Zeus actually "cheated" as he did not fight Hulk exclusively in H2H, but used magic.

The writer never said Zeus cheated as he just said it was questionable so stop trying to change words to meet your agenda.

3. Show me a SINGLE time, i repeat A SINGLE TIME Hulk got his ass beat up so hard where his healing factor and durability got messed up and he couldn't recover as fast or tank things he previously could. This is your GOLDEN opportunity, if you provide me with just ONE instance of that you can completely shut my argument.

Show me Hulk tanking another skyfather level attack('s) at any other time as it just shows that Zeus punched Hulk so hard his ability to heal was overloaded and didn't work properly for ages after.

So show me in what way Zeus didn't "cheat" as in explain to me how Zeus DIDN'T use magic when there are a total of 4 pages of Zeus using lightning or lightning enhanced punches on Hulk and yet you called this a "physical fist fight".

Considering Zeus's lighting one shot this Hulk so why wouldn't those lighting enhanced punches drop Hulk every single time ? as it was just for the display of power as it's the same thing Zeus did when he and Odin shared that moment arguing.

@hellionvulcan: Paks interview doesn't matter so stop bringing it up since we go by what's on panel not what you think happened or whatever excuse you want to make.

Paks interview ABSOLUTELY matters and it certainly matters more than the opinion of some random nobody on a random comicbook forum, the interview also does not contradict nor does it tell us something that already ISN'T in the comic, it just confirms what we already saw and that's the fact that Zeus cheated and used magic on Hulk.

The writer never said Zeus cheated as he just said it was questionable so stop trying to change words to meet your agenda.

Omg, does he need to spell it out for you, does he need to spoon feed it to you? Obviously he implies that Zeus did cheat otherwise why even ask the question himself in the first place? And how long are you gonna feign ignorance?? There are like 3 pages of Zeus whacking Hulk with lightning, obviously he cheated, what even argument are you trying to make that Zeus didn't use lightning the panels that obviously show him using lightning? What agenda am i trying to meet what's in the damn comic?

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look at those panels and tell me Zeus isnt using magic/lightning there on Hulk, otherwise drop this nonsensical act if it werent for the fact that i know you and your motives of hating and trying to downplay the Hulk, i'd think you were legitimately trolling right now.

Show me Hulk tanking another skyfather level attack('s) at any other time as it just shows that Zeus punched Hulk so hard his ability to heal was overloaded and didn't work properly for ages after.

You mean like from Galactus, Phoenix Force, Onslaught, amped Thanos, etc??? He tanked attack from all of them and his healing factor didn't give out or his durability. Hulks healing factor literally works when Hulk is DEAD, do you comprehend this? It's impossible to overload his healing factor because it works even when he is DEAD. So again show me where Hulk has taken a beating at all in his career that overloaded his healing factor, when even DEATH ITSELF can't stop his healing factor. So again stop trying to answer my question with another loaded question and just answer the damn thing, either you can prove your point or you cant.

Considering Zeus's lighting one shot this Hulk so why wouldn't those lighting enhanced punches drop Hulk every single time ? as it was just for the display of power as it's the same thing Zeus did when he and Odin shared that moment arguing.

Funny how you literally just 1 post prior said that Zeus lighting didn't do much to Hulk as he stood up unharmed but now it one-shot him, two contradicting statements yet surprisingly both wrong. Only you can pull this off, since neither is true, what Zeus did was drop Hulk with a single lightning bolt, not one-shot him as that implies he killed, KO'd him or harmed him to a point where Hulk couldn't get up. Finally you admit that those punches are lightning enhanced, took you a while to admit something thats literally shown on panel, so yes Zeus used magic against Hulk. And yes they dropped him or more accurately said harmed him in real way and messed with his healing factor as well as durability. The Zeus and Odin moment has nothing to do with any of this and i don't even know why you bring it up, he can display his power to Hulk by beating him in pure H2H without the use of lightning as that was literally cheating.

@thehierarchy: Thanos has never been able to wipe out the hulk for good before, and he can never kill the hulk now. He could take anything Thanos has got.

However, once the Hulk has been toyed around and pushed beyond belief, that's when the incredible thing happens. Thanos, blind with cockyness and misguided self belief and murderous ways, gets buried for good.