@captainsweatpan: @byondeon: Byondeon, I’m not sure I agree with your analysis
My main topic was that WBH would beat thanos at that time period and thanos before he died and even after the virus he fought thane who was amped by pheonix who wasn’t even planet level as their fight didn’t threaten planets or destroy continental levels of land but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong this is from memory but I’ll read and confirm shortly if I’m telling the truth or not
WB/HoM was roughly early 2000's right? At this point, Thanos would have rekt this in a single punch.
Also, this is Thanos vs Phoenix Thane:
This is why if possible I’d like it if people would include the point in continuity of the character.
Base Thanos is literally the current one, and Current one is dead so I guess that by that, team wins by default. However Thanos have the power of King Thanos, who is above Galactus.
It’s like saying who wins Odin or thanos.
It's always current versions of characters if no specific one is mentioned. What has this to do with anything at all in this thread even?
Well Odin is street level currently in war of realms and Thanos is deceased. See my point.
Actually, Current Odin is literally his classic version that is Universal, just that he has less power because.. Reason.
Thanos before he died had just time travelled back from King Thanos or Thanos wins saga he appeared in infinity wars and defender and was someone who could be killed by a WBH if we take thanos’s own physical feats and energy feats into consideration.
Thanos after travel back was above Maestro Hulk, who I would put above WBH. Also, Thanos is close to King Thanos in powers, who was at universal+ levels. I don't think Thanos is universal, however I would put him high-skyfather level after God Quarry arc.
WBH is weak compared to any version of Thanos. WBH wouldn't be able to do anything to Surfer. Thanos is FAR above Surfer. The only reason Thanos died was Thanos had planned it all along.
As in no surtur sword that killed dark surfer. And not scaling him to king thanos since king thanos didn’t use energy beams on he’s young self which was what killed the abstracts logically speaking it definitely wasn’t those below planet level punches.
Thanos would scale to Fallen One, who was a match for King Thanos, who was above abstracts. However I wouldn't put Thanos at abstract level. Also, Thanos was hit by energy beams from King Thanos and was completely fine. However I do believe that King Thanos didn't use full powers considering that he wanted to die so that he could be with Death.
All I’m saying is that taking physical feats and energy blast feats from thanos alone he really isn’t that strong even in the thanos wins saga he never caused harm to dark surfer himself that was the sword, thanos only throw one lucky punch and even that paled in comparison to maestro hulk punching him through the building. And arcs before that arc confirm that thanos didn’t get miraculously stronger.
You will not see a planet get destroyed even though a character punch with force enough to do that. Beta Ray Bill, Thor have destroyed planets before without actually being amped. And Thor have actually the best striking power of the team. Then WBH then Bill. I would say Bill > WWH in terms of striking powers though.
Thanos is strong enough to pummel Surfer into submission. Fallen One Surfer is WAY stronger than normal one, and that isn't counting the fact that he is worthy.
Something that Hulk can't do. The only one that could do that other than Abstracts and Skyfathers was Thanos, and Thor with the PG.
Thanos could also take hit's from PG Thor, who are WAY above WBH in physical strength and striking powers. Heck, Thor alone could match WBH for a while until Hulk grow stronger.
However if we used thanos from say 4 years ago 2015 and below we a thanos that survives in ego’s stomach, and ego ate stars. So yeah I’m knowledgeable on thanos he has gotten weaker with the rest of the marvel universe even the IG has gotten weaker if compared to IG in infinity guantlet.
Thanos in the 80's when he fought Thor was WAY above star level. Thor was one-shotting Surfer, who can take starts exploding in his face and be fine. Thor one-shot that guy and Thanos still took his hit's like it was nothing and only giving him a nose-bleed. Later, he took several attacks from Odin and wasn't really hurt. And Odin had later one-shotted Surfer. That I think was after his first ressurection. His first incarnation was matching Classic Drax in strength and even surpassed him, and Drax had star level strength.
Thanos have only grown stronger. Thanos have been low Skyfather level ever since his fight with Odin. Never changed until he got God Cancer.
Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t remember thanos wins saga thanos doing any energy blast or physical damage himself that put him at king thanos level heck not even Cosmic ghost rider level.
Thanos admitted that he couldn't kill Cosmic Ghost Rider, he was definitely way more powerful than him. But just because you are more powerful doesn't mean you can kill someone. I mean, Iron Man is more powerful than Deadpool but he can't kill him. He can beat the crap out of Cosmic Ghost Rider, but he can't kill him because he is immortal.
I mean do you remember energy blast from thanos hurting dark surfer or cosmic ghost rider. Do you remember thanos surviving King thanos energy blasts.
I remember that Thanos beat King Thanos and that Thanos took energy attacks from King Thanos. He also fought King Thanos in h2h and held his own. King Thanos was WAY above the abstracts of Marvel universe.
Let me put this into perspective. Thanos and King Thanos punch each other no air or continents shake but their punches cause each other to bleed. WBH steps and causes and earthquakes. WBH fights She-hulk that causes a planet to be destroyed and there not hitting it directly.
So what? Thor punching Gorr caused planets to be destroyed miles away. But Thor punching Hulk doesn't cause the planet they fight on to explode. Just because you don't see much collateral damage doesn't mean that they are not punching with star system levels of strength..
Also, let's just put this out there, this is Thanos first fight IIRC (Similar to WBH vs Red She-Hulk, planet got destroyed as a sideeffect of their battle):
WBH would solo Thanos from 2016 onward I though we were using thanos before he died in which was I AM CORRECT.
No, because that Thanos was Skyfather level, which no Hulk will ever reach. Hulk would get one-shot from that Thanos. With ease
WBH solos unless we specify the thanos
Any Thanos that doesn't have God Cancer wins. God Cancer Thanos loses.
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