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#251 Edited by baph (1705 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby: Surfer is known for having inconsistent speed, and not using it in most of his fights, other characters Thanos has tagged are nowhere near Midora in speed.

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#252 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph: You think when he was charging toward Thanos he didn’t use it?

And that is fine we have another instances.

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Let’s not forget he reacted to Mjonir rocketed at him and Hulk charging toward him as well.

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#253 Posted by baph (1705 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby: There's a difference between reacting to someone that is traveling towards you than someone who is moving around you.

How fast was the Mjolnir going in that instance?

Hulk is bug compared to Midora, in every category.

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#255 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph: Eh How? You have to react to them and then estimate the speed they are moving. In fact even if Thanos can’t hit him he is not going to do anything. Midora would finally run out of stamina and then...

Mjolnir while carrying Thor normally travels at light speed or faster. It wasn’t obstructed by Thor’s weight in that instance so it should be faster than usual. Also Thor knew how dangerous Thanos was so he should have had landed his best blow. I will argue it is ftl.

Not really.

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#256 Posted by GrandTOAA (911 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Thanos stronger than Galactus and can Midora beat Galactus?

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#257 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio
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#258 Edited by baph (1705 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby: Example:

If Floyd Mayweather is running towards, you can react to him, right?

But you'd get blitzed/have a hard time reacting to his punches in a boxing match.

Another example is when Batman said, who is faster, Usain Bolt or Bruce Lee?

Thanos has 0 feats to suggest he'd be able to keep up with someone as fast as Midora in close combat.

You forgot to mention that Thanos was literally in front of Thor, he saw him building up before throwing the hammer, he had time to embrace for it, something Midora won't give him, and it doesn't look like a FTL attack at all.

Yes, Hulk is outmatched in striking power, speed, durability and arguably in regen.

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#259 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph: Not if you actually pay attention at his fists, something Thanos always did when faced his opponents.

? I don’t think using Dc is a good counter here.

Despite all of those feats I mentioned and posted to show you?

When something is charging at you at FTL speed would you really have time to point out your hand in front of it and activate your shield if you are not that fast yourself?

Does Midora normally blitz?

We have not even talked about Stamina. Midora is never going to affect Thanos but he is going to get exhausted.

Strking is arguable. Durability is arguable. Regeneration? No IMO Hulk regenerates faster.

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#260 Posted by GrandTOAA (911 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph: So to you, does Midora beat Galactus and odin?

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#261 Posted by baph (1705 posts) - - Show Bio

@grandtoaa: Huh? When did i say that Midora can beat Galactus or Odin?

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#262 Edited by MindingMuffin (350 posts) - - Show Bio

@grandtoaa: Thanos isnt on Galactus or Odin's level so this is irrelevant.

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#263 Posted by baph (1705 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby:

Not if you actually pay attention at his fists, something Thanos always did when faced his opponents.

Paying attention is not enough when your opponent is massively faster than you.

? I don’t think using Dc is a good counter here.

What do you mean by DC?

Despite all of those feats I mentioned and posted to show you?

Which have some context.

When something is charging at you at FTL speed would you really have time to point out your hand in front of it and activate your shield if you are not that fast yourself?

Which scans are you talking about? Mjolnir?

Thanos had time to prepare for the attack, something Midora won't give him, Thanos can't tag someone moving around him that fast because he has 0 feats to suggest he can.

Does Midora normally blitz?

Yes, he did so against Joie and Acacia.

We have not even talked about Stamina. Midora is never going to affect Thanos but he is going to get exhausted.

Never said that Midora wins, that's not what i'm arguing.

Strking is arguable. Durability is arguable. Regeneration? No IMO Hulk regenerates faster.

I agree, Hulk's regen is better. But it's not a huge gap, Midora's heals by using Minority World, which basically reverses the damage done to him.

But striking power and durability is not debatable.

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#264 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph: When a mfl alien charged in you in rage and you teleported that punk to a galaxy far far away proved that you are really fast on your own and Thanos is in the case that blitzing him wouldn’t work unless Midora is faster than he currently is.

“Another example is when Batman said...” I am referring to that. Not sure why you brought Batman.

Context that they are pretty much charging at him and also enraged?

Mjolnir.

I explained why he was fast enough to prepare for it. In fact he just raised his hand.

Ok that is fair enough.

Sure but you said Midora won’t be tagged by Thanos which he finally will even though it may take years.

Ok.

Why do you think they are not debatable?

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#265 Posted by Psy-Scarlet (791 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

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#266 Edited by baph (1705 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby:

When a mfl alien charged in you in rage and you teleported that punk to a galaxy far far away proved that you are really fast on your own and Thanos is in the case that blitzing him wouldn’t work unless Midora is faster than he currently is.

As i said, while that feat is impressive, it's not the same as reacting to a character that is moving around and attacking you at MFTL speed.

Midora IS far faster than Thanos.

“Another example is when Batman said...” I am referring to that. Not sure why you brought Batman.

I don't see why using DC as an example is bad, Marvel and DC usually have the same physics and other stuff.

Context that they are pretty much charging at him and also enraged?

Exactly, charging being the keyword.

I explained why he was fast enough to prepare for it. In fact he just raised his hand.

I already explained why this feat is not impressive and does not prove that he can tag Midora.

Sure but you said Midora won’t be tagged by Thanos which he finally will even though it may take years.

Ok.

Nope.

Why do you think they are not debatable?

Midora is superior to characters who are capable of matching WBH Hulk in strength and durability.

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#267 Posted by GrandTOAA (911 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph: Was just asking to know how strong Midora is compared to the Marvel heavyweights

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#268 Posted by baph (1705 posts) - - Show Bio

@grandtoaa: Oh.

Well he's pretty much above all Marvel teambusters aside from Dr. Strange, who beats him handily.

He gets shitstomped by Skyfathers though.