Rules:
- Same army that Hela fought, except Asagrd doesn't get ships
- No Warrior Three/Valkyries
- No Gems
- Thanos has his armor and blade
- No Prep
- No Morals
Wont be anywhere as close to as fast as Hela did it (blade spam) but he can more or less casually take his time stomping them until the job is done like hes supposedly done on countless planets.
Thanos wins, and it's not a close fight. Prime thor as confirmed by the Russos is hundreds of times more durable than average asgardians, and he was essentially wrecked from no more than 10 hits from Thanos. He one shots until they all are gone. Piercing weapons is what he has to worry about, but his armor should help him with that.
Thanos snaps and everything is fixed.
3-4 asgardians dog piled a kurse who should be around thanos level, they Hav arrows , weapons and so much more
Thor in cqc could only take on 3 despite holding back
Each asgardians is roughly 500-1k tonner
No way thanos is getting past 10000 asgardians even hela with her spams was tagged few times and wild Hav died if not due to regen
Army stomps 10/10
@el-kun: Kurse didn't have a massive sword nor notable skill. Plus, those Asgardians were from a different time, before Odin. We didn't see Asgardians during Thor's time dual wielding and cutting down enemies one after another. Thor's Asgardians were mostly living in peace with occasional skirmishes like in TDW. Not seasoned to the degree of Asgardian warriors in constant war like in Bor and Prime Odin's time.
Thor could take only 3 based on? And no way is each Asgardian a 500 tonner...where did you even get that from?
I don't see Asgardian weapons going straight through Thanos's armor on top of his natural durability. He can already catch blades bare-handed and there's no evidence the skin on his palms are any tougher than skin anywhere else. It's also shown that Stormbreaker amped with Thor's lightning allows the weapon its one-shot potential, not just the plain blade itself. Thor concentrated his lightning powers into it every time he used it against Thanos, making it way more powerful than normal Asgardian blades. Past films established that lightning charged Mjolnir does way more damage than an uncharged strike. Hela has no piercing durability much like Wolverine (minus his bones), but Thanos can no sell bullets and vibranium shields without armor. The armor has many scratches and cuts indicating blades or pointed attacks have failed against it in the past. The armor also did withstand a graze from SB, saving Thanos's arm from a serious wound.
Thanos, eventually.
Don't think standard Asgardian metal would pierce him , and the Asgardians don't have the strength to do it even if it could
Thanos hacks them all to death with his double-edged sword. That thing destroyed Captain America's vibranium shield as if it was made of porcelain.
In the Thanos novel (originally canon and written as such, think they changed their minds after) when it was just relying on his physicals (before he got his combat training) he got basically brought to near death by a few Asgardians and one Valk tier warrior, their weapons had no issue cutting into him. He'd be stomped by 50 of them let alone the entire force.
Lol the nonsense in this thread.
He bulldozes through them easily it will just take a while, they have zero way of getting through his armour and skin and hes capable of one shotting every single one of them.
The kurse beasts from TDW battle are lesser formed versions of the actual Kurse nvm being Thanos level haha!
In the Thanos novel (originally canon and written as such, think they changed their minds after) when it was just relying on his physicals (before he got his combat training) he got basically brought to near death by a few Asgardians and one Valk tier warrior, their weapons had no issue cutting into him. He'd be stomped by 50 of them let alone the entire force.
What novel?
Thanos, eventually.
In the Thanos novel (originally canon and written as such, think they changed their minds after) when it was just relying on his physicals (before he got his combat training) he got basically brought to near death by a few Asgardians and one Valk tier warrior, their weapons had no issue cutting into him. He'd be stomped by 50 of them let alone the entire force.
What novel?
In the Thanos novel (originally canon and written as such, think they changed their minds after) when it was just relying on his physicals (before he got his combat training) he got basically brought to near death by a few Asgardians and one Valk tier warrior, their weapons had no issue cutting into him. He'd be stomped by 50 of them let alone the entire force.
What novel?
Thanks, is it worth buying?
Thanos wins, and it's not a close fight. Prime thor as confirmed by the Russos is hundreds of times more durable than average asgardians, and he was essentially wrecked from no more than 10 hits from Thanos. He one shots until they all are gone. Piercing weapons is what he has to worry about, but his armor should help him with that.
Source?
@el-kun: Isnt algrim(?) a special Kurse? IIRC He was a monster even before absorbing the stone in the asgard prison.
No he was a regular named Dark Elf. He was wearing a Marauders disguise which is why he looked different when he was in prison.
@samjackson: @nwname: if anything he was a weaker kurse,based on tdw we know the kursed are powered by the reality stone, and aligrim was powered by a very small one ,
Alrgrim was alive during bore time and he wasn't even chosen to be one, my guess those guys were physically stronger than him, he was only selected as a last choice
Dont know if u get my point
@samjackson: @nwname: if anything he was a weaker kurse,based on tdw we know the kursed are powered by the reality stone, and aligrim was powered by a very small one ,
Alrgrim was alive during bore time and he wasn't even chosen to be one, my guess those guys were physically stronger than him, he was only selected as a last choice
Dont know if u get my point
Where’d you get that from? There’s only one reality stone, it wasn’t only shards of it after Thor shot it with lightning.
Thanos, eventually.
Also I'm fairly sure Algrim is an actual name villain in Thor's lore, so equating him to regular Kursed elves would be like equating Heimdall to the average Einherjar.
He’s an actual named villain in the comics yeah, but he’s done nothing to separate himself from your standard Dark Elf in the MCU.
@el-kun: Kurse didn't have a massive sword nor notable skill. Plus, those Asgardians were from a different time, before Odin. We didn't see Asgardians during Thor's time dual wielding and cutting down enemies one after another. Thor's Asgardians were mostly living in peace with occasional skirmishes like in TDW. Not seasoned to the degree of Asgardian warriors in constant war like in Bor and Prime Odin's time.
Yea it will affect skill wise, striking ability, but strength and durability are a go, and sowrd will only get u so far whem facing 10000 asgardians,
Thor could take only 3 based on? And no way is each Asgardian a 500 tonner...where did you even get that from?
Based on a deleted scene in tdw where he was attacked by 3 soldiers, I know he was holding back a lot but he had his hand full for about a minute, during dat period he was punching and headbutting
Okay sure I did exaggerate their strength level to some level
I don't see Asgardian weapons going straight through Thanos's armor on top of his natural durability. He can already catch blades bare-handed and there's no evidence the skin on his palms are any tougher than skin anywhere else. It's also shown that Stormbreaker amped with Thor's lightning allows the weapon its one-shot potential, not just the plain blade itself. Thor concentrated his lightning powers into it every time he used it against Thanos, making it way more powerful than normal Asgardian blades. Past films established that lightning charged Mjolnir does way more damage than an uncharged strike. Hela has no piercing durability much like Wolverine (minus his bones), but Thanos can no sell bullets and vibranium shields without armor. The armor has many scratches and cuts indicating blades or pointed attacks have failed against it in the past. The armor also did withstand a graze from SB, saving Thanos's arm from a serious wound.
So far asgardian metal has not fail to cut anything to say it can't take thanos down
It pierced Thor, cut Leviathan like butter, can go Thor force fields and reinforced steels, can tear space ships, at the very least it can cause some degree of harm to thanos
@samjackson: @nwname: if anything he was a weaker kurse,based on tdw we know the kursed are powered by the reality stone, and aligrim was powered by a very small one ,
Alrgrim was alive during bore time and he wasn't even chosen to be one, my guess those guys were physically stronger than him, he was only selected s a last choice
Dont know if u get my point
Where’d you get that from? There’s only one reality stone, it wasn’t only shards of it after Thor shot it with lightning.
Odin said so , and I quote: "so we took their weapon and so their army fell " as the bifrost teleported the reality gem, the kursed started to fall and die , and them when Jane awoken it, malekieth and his people woke up,
The one powering algrim was but a little one,
Also I'm fairly sure Algrim is an actual name villain in Thor's lore, so equating him to regular Kursed elves would be like equating Heimdall to the average Einherjar.
He’s an actual named villain in the comics yeah, but he’s done nothing to separate himself from your standard Dark Elf in the MCU.
Who's to say Malekith didn't choose him because he was the most competent of the Dark Elves? There were a bunch of other options at the time. He has better feats than the rest of the Kursed, he has a name and he's a powerful antagonist of Thor in the source material.
If Skurge hypothetically returns and does some stuff better than what the Einherjar have done, are we just going to scale them to the Einherjar because he hasn't done anything to separate him from them?
Also I'm fairly sure Algrim is an actual named villain in Thor's lore, so equating him to regular Kursed elves would be like equating Heimdall to the average Einherjar.
And the same hiemdall was overwhelmed by 3+ asgardians soldiers
Also I'm fairly sure Algrim is an actual name villain in Thor's lore, so equating him to regular Kursed elves would be like equating Heimdall to the average Einherjar.
He’s an actual named villain in the comics yeah, but he’s done nothing to separate himself from your standard Dark Elf in the MCU.
Who's to say Malekith didn't choose him because he was the most competent of the Dark Elves? There were a bunch of other options at the time. He has better feats than the rest of the Kursed, he has a name and he's a powerful antagonist of Thor in the source material.
And why wasn't he chosen in the great battle against bor, my guess was there were more elf's more stronger than him, and he was only choosen because he trusted him nd as a last resort
If Skurge hypothetically returns and does some stuff better than what the Einherjar have done, are we just going to scale them to the Einherjar because he hasn't done anything to separate him from them?
Also I'm fairly sure Algrim is an actual named villain in Thor's lore, so equating him to regular Kursed elves would be like equating Heimdall to the average Einherjar.
And the same hiemdall was overwhelmed by 3+ asgardians soldiers
1. Heimdall got eventually overwhelmed fending off hordes of Hela's undead army alone with a bunch of non-combat ready fugitives. Loki hadn't arrived at the time and Valkyrie hadn't landed. In the beginning of the movie he also slaughters numerous of the same soldiers.
2. This is irrelevant with the topic in question in the first place.
@el-kun: Your guess might work for you but it's not valid evidence, it's merely a theory based on guesswork. I can just as easily explain that by saying he was too valuable to sacrifice at the time since Malekith already burned down the Asgardian troops at the end.
The truth of the matter is, he's a named Dark Elf unlike all the other soldiers, he's a competent being in the source material and he has better feats than his fellow Elves. And this is evidence, not guesswork. Why equate him to them?
Who's to say Malekith didn't choose him because he was the most competent of the Dark Elves? There were a bunch of other options at the time. He has better feats than the rest of the Kursed, he has a name and he's a powerful antagonist of Thor in the source material.
If Skurge hypothetically returns and does some stuff better than what the Einherjar have done, are we just going to scale them to the Einherjar because he hasn't done anything to separate him from them?
Being more competent doesn’t necessarily make you any stronger or more powerful. There’s nothing in the films, script or tie in’s that indicate the Kursed Stones affect Dark Elves differently. Kurse is also different from the source material. In the comics he was empowered by the Beyonder and in the movies he’s powered by a magic stone. There’s multiple “Kurse“ warriors in the movies and in the comics Algrim is the only one iirc.
Skurge is no different than your average Einherjar imo. If he magically revived and was operating on a different level I would assume he was amped after resurrection considering how he performed against the Berserkers.
@samjackson: @nwname: if anything he was a weaker kurse,based on tdw we know the kursed are powered by the reality stone, and aligrim was powered by a very small one ,
Alrgrim was alive during bore time and he wasn't even chosen to be one, my guess those guys were physically stronger than him, he was only selected s a last choice
Dont know if u get my point
Where’d you get that from? There’s only one reality stone, it wasn’t only shards of it after Thor shot it with lightning.
Odin said so , and I quote: "so we took their weapon and so their army fell " as the bifrost teleported the reality gem, the kursed started to fall and die , and them when Jane awoken it, malekieth and his people woke up,
The one powering algrim was but a little one,
That’s not what he said. What he said was....
ODIN:
But Asgard ripped
the weapon from his grasp.
Without it, the Dark Elves fell.
@samjackson: @nwname: if anything he was a weaker kurse,based on tdw we know the kursed are powered by the reality stone, and aligrim was powered by a very small one ,
Alrgrim was alive during bore time and he wasn't even chosen to be one, my guess those guys were physically stronger than him, he was only selected s a last choice
Dont know if u get my point
Where’d you get that from? There’s only one reality stone, it wasn’t only shards of it after Thor shot it with lightning.
Odin said so , and I quote: "so we took their weapon and so their army fell " as the bifrost teleported the reality gem, the kursed started to fall and die , and them when Jane awoken it, malekieth and his people woke up,
The one powering algrim was but a little one,
That’s not what he said. What he said was....
ODIN:
But Asgard ripped
the weapon from his grasp.
Without it, the Dark Elves fell.
U think it was a mistake all their weapons and stuffs glowed red, and as soon as they took the stuff they all started to die
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