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this thread sums it up
" Not really fair. HOTU Thanos is close to TOAA, even more closer than Living Tribunal, I believe, and Thought Robot ain't beating that. "The Thought Robot might beat LT. That is debatable. But I definitely see the HotU overcoming the Thought Robot.
That is Thought Robot(Superman cosmic armor), and that little disk is the whole DC multiverse.
And this is him walking in the overvoid, which is beyond the DC multiverse.
TR is either at the level of Presence, Beyonder, TOAA, or even above them. HoTU and TR are both plot devices, and probably the most powerful ones in their respective universes. But TR is strong than HoTU thanos, in a sense that he can think the HoTU out of existence, or he can crush the entire Marvel multiverse along with HoTU Thanos inside it, with his hands.
Thanos with HoTU was nigh-omnipotent, he was able to absorb the entire of the Marvel multiverse within him, but not anything beyond that. But, he did not achieve much in sense of the omniscience, as he was told by Adam Warlock how he was tricked and then he had to reconstruct the whole multiverse.
Now Thoans' biggest achieve in this was absorbing the multiverse with LT inside, who is said to be second only to TOAA, and HoTU is said to be a fraction of TOAA's power. But we have seen previously how LT has been overpowered by other cosmic beings, such as PR Beyonder(LT shitted his pants when he saw beyonder) and protege, and was superseded by Scathan the Approver, who was easily able to contain the protege.
OTOH, the monitors in DC are considered to be representations of the writers. And they exist beyond the creation. And Mandrakk(dark monitor) even kept the whole of creation in a jar and Mandrakk was beaten by TR.
Whereas Thanos(HoTU) is just nigh-omnipotent, Thought Robot otoh is omnipotent and omniscient. Because, he can feel the narrative progressing around him(omniscient) and can manipulate it(omnipotent). He is not of matter, he is purely an abstract being, a Though, not even energy. He can manipulate the story of the comics, and not just the creation, whereas Thanos(HoTU) can only manipulate the creation. And TR is aware of the readers and can hear their breathing and them grabbing the pages of the comic.
So, TR can just blink the HoTU out of existence or Thanos with HoTU out of existence.
@mega6382: He absorbed the main Marvel Universe, he didn't absorb the Marvel Multiverse and he was fully omniscient because he figured it out way before Adam told him.
He absorbed the Marvel Universe..and LT was beaten by characters that would blink TR out of existence so I don't get why you would lowball LT like that.
We're not debating hearsay, we're debating actual on-panel feats and The Monitors including Mandrakk get stomped by Thanos with HoTU.
Yeah nah, Thanos became omnipotent with HoTU, he says so himself and being aware of the readers isn't a combat feat, you're using so much speculation. He has no feats to suggest he can damage Thanos and Thanos has the feats to actually blink him out of existence.
No he can't, just stop, take a breather, read your own post again, and never, ever, call TR Omnipotent or Omniscient.
Thanos blinks with absolute ease.
Monitors see the 52 Universes rotating through the Bleed as "Germs" and infinitesimal objects to the Monitors are described as being large inside our Universe, indicating through size scaling that Monitors are infinitely larger than 52 Universes during the Final Crisis one shot, so they may be Multiversalx52 through highballing.
The problem with Monitors is the constant discontinuous back and forth retcons of the DC Multiverse configuration. Actually, damn near every Cosmic in DC suffers from this issue that makes them susceptible to Marvel sider semantical nitpicks, except for Mxyzptlk and Anti-Monitor of course to name a few.
DC's Multiverse is retconned back from Multi-Universe to infinite again, but the configuration of Hypertime in relation to the rest of shown DC Multiverse Map is unknown for example. Most of what we know there is based on Flash's assessment.
@rampagethefirst:Also, as you stated, that Thanos with HoTU only absorbed the main universe and not the whole multiverse, that just means he is even less powerful than I stated. So, HoTU is universe level, or multiverse level at best. Whereas Mandrakk is so far beyond multiverse level, he literally kept the whole multiverse in a JAR. and TR defeated him.
@mega6382: If you're going to ignore my questions, don't bother replying and Thanos is easily Multiversal since he defeated Multiversal beings with ease. Mandrakk has no feats to suggest he's beyond Multiversal and TR defeated him by pushing him in the void, even then, he was still alive.
Sorry, I missed that message of yours. Anyway, as it is said that Mandrakk can evolve to overcome the story he is in, and Thought Robot was constantly changing to keep up with Mandrakk. Also, Superman's and Ultraman's(anti matter) stories combined to form RT(and superman was the main driving force of the RT), and this was because Superman's story is the greatest(as he is the first superhero).
So, yes, when RT was evolving, he was changing the story, or at least the narrative of the story.
HOTU fans and their "omnipotence' arguments. I wanna throw up from it. HOTU isn't even mightest form of Thanos. There are Regulator Thanos or Lazy chair Thanos. Even Shamballa form Dr Strange is above HOTU Thanos.
Monitors or Limbos are places where stories ends. THis is overally sth beyond TOAA or equal to him oblivion or Regulator Thanos.
As much as i love Thanos CAS spanks him with extreme ease
Regulator Thanos slaps, Lazy Chair Thanos slaps HOTU, also King Thanos has beaten tribunal ( off screen but has beaten ). Also there is oblivion, True form of Chaos King etc.
Oblivion with TOAA lives in dimensionless ( outside dimensional bound creation ) where story ends overally.
THat place in dc fiction are limbos and CAS as monitor sphere being perceives Limbos as a toy.
CAS claps HOTU Thanos
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