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#1 Edited by Frocharocha (6283 posts) - - Show Bio

Title says all. Can Captain Marvel defeat Thanos while he was in Infinity War?

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#2 Posted by Killermovies (1123 posts) - - Show Bio

Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?

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#3 Posted by Subline (8679 posts) - - Show Bio

Assuming that what Killermovies said is true, Thanos wins. She clearly wasn't that efficient at using her speed against individual targets such as Thanos.

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#5 Edited by Co-Boss (488 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos murks her. He was throwing her around till she started absorbing energy from the guantlet (she started glowing more and more).

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#6 Posted by Unlimited1 (1029 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel didn't absorb energy from the Infinity gauntlet, she is simply stronger than Thanos. She wins here.

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#7 Edited by azrael1973 (2970 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos was also weakened from wearing the gauntlet. It hurts enough that the Hulk was forced to knee.

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Thanos is feeling the pain in this scene too, giving IM the chance to steal the gems.

The only one who wasn't hurt is Tony , well it's his gauntlet, but even he felt it.

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#8 Edited by Nomar (1783 posts) - - Show Bio

@killermovies said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?

You're wrong. No such thing happens. It's head-canon by people who don't to accept what Marvel has been telling us about how strong live action CM was going to be. CM is going to be a powerhouse. It's why she's not in the vast majority of the movie. People on these forums just see in VS topic vision though and have little to no comprehension of what they are actually seeing/reading.

This brings me back to after IW when I had to keep repeating that Hulk wasn't afraid of Thanos and that anybody that isn't an idiot could see that it wasn't fear of Thanos that was keeping Hulk from coming out. Then because people (especially fanboys of a certain hero) like to interpret things in way that can diminish a character, that's what they do. Then the Russo brothers had to come outright and state that Hulk wasn't afraid. EVEN THEN PEOPLE STILL WENT WITH THEIR HEAD-CANON!

Captain Marvel was powering up. Something we already know she can do. It's just expanded upon in this movie. Instead people make up a far more extravagant excuse about absorbing the stones because apparently the only interesting villains are the ones that are stronger than all of the heroes. All the other attributes that make Thanos threatening be damned.

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#9 Edited by azrael1973 (2970 posts) - - Show Bio

@nomar said:
@killermovies said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?

You're wrong. No such thing happens. It's head-canon by people who don't to accept what Marvel has been telling us about how strong live action CM was going to be. CM is going to be a powerhouse. It's why she's not in the vast majority of the movie. People on these forums just see in VS topic vision though and have little to no comprehension of what they are actually seeing/reading.

This brings me back to after IW when I had to keep repeating that Hulk wasn't afraid of Thanos and that anybody that isn't an idiot could see that it wasn't fear of Thanos that was keeping Hulk from coming out. Then because people (especially fanboys of a certain hero) like to interpret things in way that can diminish a character, that's what they do. Then the Russo brothers had to come outright and state that Hulk wasn't afraid. EVEN THEN PEOPLE STILL WENT WITH THEIR HEAD-CANON!

Is that the reason why Hulk is still a joke in endgame? Sorry aren't you disappointed as a Hulk Fan? I know I am.

He didn't even get a chance to hit Thanos.

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@azrael1973 said:
@nomar said:
@killermovies said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?

You're wrong. No such thing happens. It's head-canon by people who don't to accept what Marvel has been telling us about how strong live action CM was going to be. CM is going to be a powerhouse. It's why she's not in the vast majority of the movie. People on these forums just see in VS topic vision though and have little to no comprehension of what they are actually seeing/reading.

This brings me back to after IW when I had to keep repeating that Hulk wasn't afraid of Thanos and that anybody that isn't an idiot could see that it wasn't fear of Thanos that was keeping Hulk from coming out. Then because people (especially fanboys of a certain hero) like to interpret things in way that can diminish a character, that's what they do. Then the Russo brothers had to come outright and state that Hulk wasn't afraid. EVEN THEN PEOPLE STILL WENT WITH THEIR HEAD-CANON!

Is that the reason why Hulk is still a joke in endgame? Sorry aren't you disappointed as a Hulk Fan? I know I am.

Oh I most definitely am. They had an amazing opportunity right in their faces to show us a truly savage Hulk form when the Ancient One smacked Bruce out of Hulk. We could have seen other Hulk personas try to fight for control of the vacant body, but nope. It was very very disappointing as a Hulk fan. I try to console myself with the IG feat but it's such an out of combat feat and tailored to Hulk due to Gamma that it doesn't help me feel much better.

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#11 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (17080 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel even though people don’t want to admit it.

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#12 Posted by phillip33 (4454 posts) - - Show Bio

While I did think they were nearly evenly matched in strength and neither could really damage the other in the movie, thanos’ blade was never tested against carol. I’d wager that thanos would be able to tag carol with the blade before she lands enough shots to KO him. I had not thought about the gauntlet weakening the user though as another poster mentioned.

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#13 Posted by azrael1973 (2970 posts) - - Show Bio

@nomar said:
@azrael1973 said:
@nomar said:
@killermovies said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?

You're wrong. No such thing happens. It's head-canon by people who don't to accept what Marvel has been telling us about how strong live action CM was going to be. CM is going to be a powerhouse. It's why she's not in the vast majority of the movie. People on these forums just see in VS topic vision though and have little to no comprehension of what they are actually seeing/reading.

This brings me back to after IW when I had to keep repeating that Hulk wasn't afraid of Thanos and that anybody that isn't an idiot could see that it wasn't fear of Thanos that was keeping Hulk from coming out. Then because people (especially fanboys of a certain hero) like to interpret things in way that can diminish a character, that's what they do. Then the Russo brothers had to come outright and state that Hulk wasn't afraid. EVEN THEN PEOPLE STILL WENT WITH THEIR HEAD-CANON!

Is that the reason why Hulk is still a joke in endgame? Sorry aren't you disappointed as a Hulk Fan? I know I am.

Oh I most definitely am. They had an amazing opportunity right in their faces to show us a truly savage Hulk form when the Ancient One smacked Bruce out of Hulk. We could have seen other Hulk personas try to fight for control of the vacant body, but nope. It was very very disappointing as a Hulk fan. I try to console myself with the IG feat but it's such an out of combat feat and tailored to Hulk due to Gamma that it doesn't help me feel much better.

I feel you bro!

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#14 Edited by phillip33 (4454 posts) - - Show Bio

@nomar: I think the best get out thanos has here a is that the infinity gauntlet damages the individual user. Now that I think about it, they did fight twice, and in one instance thanos seemed to get the upper hand and in the other instance carol seemed to be getting the upper hand. The only difference being that thanos didn’t have the gauntlet in one instance and did have on the gauntlet on in the other instance.

Kinda makes sense. Outside of this one instance, there’s nothing that she has done that Thor could not replicate. People overrate her feat of destroying thanos’ ship. She didn’t actually destroy the ship. She just flew through the explody parts.

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@phillip33 said:

@nomar: I think the best get out thanos has here a is that the infinity gauntlet damages the individual user.

The gauntlet certainly does that as proven by the Hulk scene. If someone like the Hulk can't stand and is screaming because of pain , it is definitely a thing. Thanos screamed when he put the power gem back as well and he stopped when the gems were stolen.

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#16 Posted by Sy8000 (35707 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos cuts her.

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#17 Posted by NathanTheCynic (130 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel.

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#18 Posted by TheVVitchKing (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel in binary has a force field serrounding her I’m not even sure Thanos can get past it she also casually dodged two of his punches in close combat and brought him down with one hand she wins easily

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#19 Edited by rem (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos.

He didn’t have the sword and she probably caught him off-guard. Really hard to tell though because they were basically evenly matched.

The only one who was definitely above him is Wanda

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#20 Posted by Tony_Shark (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

@rem: Only because he has no counter to her abilities or ranged attacks.

Her ability is hax against him and only amped because she was blood lusted.

He still outranks in every stat department.

Anyway, Thanos wins. Carol's feats are nice but he was still able to get the upper hand and throw her even when weakened.

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#21 Posted by icec0ld (1365 posts) - - Show Bio

@killermovies:

No, that was never stated nor implied.

She is outright stronger than him. She overpowered him on the farm as well.

In their second fight she beat him back with ease while he couldn't even budge her. She had him scared, his face had clear and obvious look of fear right before she dropped him to his knee. If it wasn't for the Stone she would have ended him.

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#22 Posted by Buckstop (115 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos. I thought it was pretty clear he's the superior of any one hero.

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#23 Posted by Crunch5481 (1331 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Thanos. Captain Marvel was using all her strength on Thanos in that particular scene (as well as her flying) , and Thanos was only using that one arm and upperbody strength he didn't use all his strength and she was barely winning.

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#24 Posted by crazyjax84 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

I find it upsetting that a character who derives her powers from a fragment of a fragment of an infinity stone is even able to be debated in strength against someone who was more powerful than characters wielding full infinity stones.

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#25 Posted by FirstFirmament (407 posts) - - Show Bio

The gauntlet weakens Thanos as someone already stated and he was already tired fighting the trio among others.

Base Thanos wins in an entertaining fight.

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#26 Posted by BleachHub (261 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos low difficulty. He was matching her while she was enraged, with one hand, in severe pain from the gauntlet, weakened from fighting the other heros before her, and while she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet.

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#27 Posted by Greysentinel365 (6338 posts) - - Show Bio

Carol wins without issue. This whole "weakened Thanos" thing is a pipe dream contradicted by onscreen evidence.

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#28 Posted by TheVVitchKing (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

So the infinity gauntlet now weakens Thanos? Lol what?

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#29 Posted by Emanresu_20 (3113 posts) - - Show Bio

It was never stated or implied she was absorbing energy from the Gauntlet.

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#30 Edited by azrael1973 (2970 posts) - - Show Bio

@greysentinel365 said:

Carol wins without issue. This whole "weakened Thanos" thing is a pipe dream contradicted by onscreen evidence.

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So why does Thanos shout when he put the powerstone back? Actually this is onscreen evidence that it hurts him. Why was Tony so easily able to grab the gauntlet?

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#31 Edited by Greysentinel365 (6338 posts) - - Show Bio

@azrael1973: Because controlling the gems is a matter of will. You only need tank the initial burst. See the guardians use of the power stones. He's calling out as an exertion of will not pain.

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#32 Posted by Kidolio (1152 posts) - - Show Bio

@azrael1973: That doesn’t really prove anything it just shows that it hurts at first. Grabbing him isn’t hard, he wasn’t ready, besides immediately after Tony was hit back.

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@killermovies said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?

I think so as well. She was clearly not overpowering Thanos that much in other instances, but that one time. Plus, she's an energy absorber who got her power from space gem, so it makes total sense. The gems possess a very powerful energy, and it'd also make sense that she draws power from her source of power. Tbh, not everything has to be outright stated. These stuffs are strongly implied.

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#34 Posted by Losemonitor (41 posts) - - Show Bio

Carol easily win.

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#35 Edited by Lan_Fan (15877 posts) - - Show Bio

That said, Carol would win. While I think Thanos is stronger, strength isn't everything.

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#36 Posted by geekryan (5022 posts) - - Show Bio

Base Thanos absolutely loses to Carol

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#37 Edited by deactivated-5cc88dc0cd01c (422 posts) - - Show Bio

Carol - Better feats and arguably and definately had the edge in their battle until Thanos grabbed the power stone. Only problem will be putting him down.

It'd be a really close fight

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#38 Posted by AvatarOfDeath (383 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos should win, someone mentioned the Russo brothers saying that Thanos cannot be beaten 1v1. Also breaking Vibranium gives him the greatest striking feat in the MCU as no one has done that before without Vibranium.

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#39 Posted by ImMadNice (1394 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets put it this way - other than Galactus idk who they could realistically bring to the big screen that Carol can’t fodderize

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#40 Posted by RuinedUrGurl (132 posts) - - Show Bio

Carol wrecks

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#41 Posted by StellatedColt (928 posts) - - Show Bio

Man I don't even know. If this was IW Thanos I would say Thanos wins, but in EG, Carol brought this man to his knees dawg. The man had to get power stones just to fend off her. There's no doubt in my mind that Carol stomp.

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#42 Posted by blackpantherisb (7336 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos stomps, she overpowered him when he was using one arm, so we can't definitively say that she is stronger, he also has a oneshot weapon, better combat ability, better striking, and great enough durability to tank whatever she puts out. Honestly she wasn't all that impressive, Doctor Strange, Wanda, IW Thor, and Composite Iron Man are all more powerful Avengers than she is.

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#43 Posted by KingLouie (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

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#44 Posted by AlexTheBoss (18436 posts) - - Show Bio

Title says all. Can Captain Marvel defeat Thanos while he was in Infinity War?

Title says Endgame, yet you say Infinity War here, so I'm confused.

In Endgame we see them fight, and it seemed Captain Marvel was overpowering Thanos, but he overpowered her with the power stone. So any version of Thanos in IW would beat her due to the gems. She would mostly likely beat any version of Thanos without the gems, though he has a chance fully armored up with his weapon.

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#45 Posted by newyorkjetsarecool (621 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

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#46 Posted by APEX_pretador (21255 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll give Thanos a very very small advantage without the sword

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#47 Posted by BrownZeus (980 posts) - - Show Bio

People are wanking Capitain Marvel like they had taken a viagra pill. Capitain Marvel is not fodderizing Thanos. She is not fodderizing Ego and would be fodderized by Dormammu.

Right now CM is indeed the strongest on the hero side so far if we ignore IW Thor's Stormbreaker feat.

Carol was shown to be on Thanos's league and this is not debatable. However as the wank gets rough and the mind goes numb as I hear the "oh CM overpowered Thanos" there is a very convenient dismissal of details as it is very easy to see that this "overpowering" was a clash consisting of Carol using her full body strength and powers to only prevent Thanos from closing his hand.

I can see base Thanos losing against Capitain Marvel in a fight however Thanos still gets the slight mayority from me.

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As per OP's topic I get confused because the title says Endgame Thanos while the description says Infinity War Thanos.

In Infinity War Thanos at his earliest allready had the power gem so I can see this going to Thanos mid-easy diff.

If we are talking about Base Thanos still Thanos 6/11 with extreme diff.

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#48 Edited by azrael1973 (2970 posts) - - Show Bio

So many delusional people. Dr Strange himself said that he used the timestone and he saw just one way to win from 14 million alternate realities.

And even in endgame he told Stark that if he revealed the future to him it wouldn't happen. There was just one way to win and it wasn't Captain Marvel beating Thanos. So in the realities shown by the timestone Captain Marvel lost over and over again and failed to prevent Thanos from wearing the IG.

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#49 Posted by Magneto1995 (32 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel would win in a long drawn out battle, its clear that she is slightly more powerful than Thanos without the stones.

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#50 Posted by eri123 (1687 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos.