Thanos and company break into the DC universe.

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#1  Edited By chris_t3258c0

Thanos with HOTU enters the DC universe and brings with him Pre retcon Beyonder, Pre retcon Molecule Man, Galactus (fully fed),Tyrant (full power), Dark Phoenix, Viod Sentry, Trion Juggs, and PA Surfer. With the intension of ending the universe completely (call it a gift for death). Without bringing the Presence into the equation what characters could prevent this from happening?

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No one. This is a mismatch. Omnipotent vs. not omnipotent.

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It seems to be Thanos with the HOTU is basically TOAA. If you give him the IG I'm pretty sure he loses. BUT DC does have the Worlogog so shouldn't they cancel each other out?

But until not stalemate.

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thought robot solos them and sends them crying back to marvel

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@the_last_son_of_czarnia said:

No one. This is a mismatch. Omnipotent vs. not omnipotent.

HOTU Thanos was not fully omnipotent.

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The hotu gave him part of the power of the OAA. That means diddly in DC. CoiE Anti Monitor would manhandle Tyrant and Galactus, Trigon would have a featless fight with Cyttorak, Darkseid (DS) with ALE would slap Thanos around and The Justice League (pre 52) would slaughter the rest cept Dark Phoenix who is immediately expunged by Nekron because I can't league him out.

There's no reason power of the God of marvel would have any effect whatsoever in DC. Just like DC stated about the IG.

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This scenario is under the assumption that the power of the characters will translate to the dc universe

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#9  Edited By chris_t3258c0

what about characters like superman prime 1mil, parallax, imperiex, spectre, anti-monitor, darksied ale, and lucifer morningstar could they prevent it?

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If the infinity gauntlet holds any value in this confrontation then it isn't a hard outcome to determine. Galactus alone is a task with potential to occupy the entire JL (seeing how they're main priority is to protect innocents). Galactus has the ability to end a single planet quite quickly, making him center of focus for high ranking leaguers. Tyrant would be a hypothetical notch below Galactus among the characters named. Created in Galactus' image, he rules an empire that spans galaxies and posseses abilities/attributes similar to that of Galactus to the point where they've stalemated before. A universal threat level at worst (that makes two). Dark Phoenix, again another vicious threat of universal scale. Dark Phoenix has shown us feats such as manipulating matter, altering time, rebirth of course and raising the dead just to name a few. A cosmic entity with the presence to bring a universe to its knees (multiple times), that feeds on living stars, melded with an omega level telepath/telekinetic named Jean Grey. With excellent control over unimaginable power, and in her form, she can easily go planet to planet causing more than enough trouble for heroes to deal with (trouble=protecting, evacuating, preventive measures, even actually fighting) if she chooses to be so tedious. In actuality she can target main stars of solar systems to swallow, leaving the orbiting planets in peril. The Void: counterpart to the man with the power of 1,000,000 exploding suns. The void was created by Reynolds' subconscious as the result of newton's third law. For every act of valor undergone as the Sentry there is an equal and opposite deed committed by the void. Reynolds fears the void with each of these passing transactions making the void stronger each time. Because his powers are held together by his mental abilities the more mentally stable Sentry is the more powerful he is. The more Sentry fears, frets, and worries of the Void the more powerful the void becomes. A planetary threat level at best, the Void will pose difficult and confusing to defeat for any opponent (if Superman had the chance to engage the Void manu y manu--no holds barred--he can be dealt with. Not too educated on Juggernaut's full abilities as Trion from the crimson gem. However I understand his abilities of enhanced superhuman strength and endurance, resistance to mental attacks and his virtually unstoppable momentum. Under the full effects of the crimson gem he achieved power to consistently rip through dimensions (momentum) and it has been noted that he can "take down" Galactus. Though his travel isn't limited to one plane, I'll deem him a planetary threat. He will have to be calmed/slowed down to have a chance at defeating him. Telepathic attempts are null so he'll need to be stopped with pure force alone (good luck with that). Most ppl are unfamiliar with an accurate depiction of the Silver Surfer, Galactus' personal favorite and preferred herald. Embued with the power cosmic the Surfer is completely enhanced to a level above regularly conceived "life." Cosmic awareness grants him knowledge and cognition far beyond comprehension. His energies are fueled and replenished by the cosmos and his relationship with Galactus only amplifies what they are capable of. A planetary (/universal with Galactus) threat level capable of going toe to toe with the best of both (MU and DCU) universes and the ability of making the decision to end planet Earth. The surfer more than likely wont be leaving Galactus' side so that they may better assist each other. 

Its hard to be descriptive on possible counteractive measures the DC universe could take to best take this situation (I'd love to, just to be fair) but the outcome in my opinion won't be affected by it.

Mind you, all of these atrocities are being carried out at once. Assuming genius level tactics--courtesy of Thanos--are carried out to ensure maximum efficiency of each character's ability, it will be an overwhelming scenario for DC heroes to combat. Way too many universal threat levels for one universe. 

Bye-bye, DCU.

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#11  Edited By Chibio

It seems to be Thanos with the HOTU is basically TOAA. If you give him the IG I'm pretty sure he loses. BUT DC does have the Worlogog so shouldn't they cancel each other out?

Nah, he is not. Thanos with HOTU stands below TOAA of of course, most likely even below pre-retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man.

The question is if Michael und Lucifer would be able to stop him. If not, the Marvel team wins, because of Thanos.

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what about characters like superman prime 1mil, parallax, imperiex, spectre, anti-monitor, darksied ale, and lucifer morningstar could they prevent it?

Not against the guy who ate the LT. I could see some what of an argument made for thought robot, amped Spectre, or COIE Anti-Monitor, but I would still probably say Thanos takes it all.

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#13  Edited By rolldestroyer

there are other supreme entities in DC, like the great evil beast, over monitor, etc... all of whom could possibly beat thanos

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#14  Edited By Iragexcudder

Spectre, Lucifer Morningstar and the Great Evil Beast.

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Spectre, Lucifer Morningstar and the Great Evil Beast.

Also Mandrakk, Thought Robot Supes and Mr Mxzyptlk.

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#16  Edited By OverLordArhas

Spectre, Lucifer Morningstar and the Great Evil Beast.

Great Evil Beast maybe but Specter and Lucy, Nah!

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Lucifer and Michael are Omniversal. They stomp with ease.

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Lucifer and Michael are Omniversal. They stomp with ease.

The HOTU will just absorb them.

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#19  Edited By GhostRider2

If Morningstar can't do a trick, DC is doomed.

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If Morningstar can't do a trick, DC is doomed.

Thanos tricks>Morningstar tricks

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Maybe the Presence, but I'd imagine The One Above All interferes and stops them

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Heart of the Universe is only universal level, Lucifer is multiversal+ and Omniversal level, thus he is above the effects of HOTU period. He stomps as does Michael.

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#23  Edited By Djangophile

Someone activates Thought Robot or askes Mandrak to smack the universe itself and kill those pests before they try to come into the DC beyond place where Mandrakk is.

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#24  Edited By reikai

HotU Thanos is 2nd only to TOAA. Anyone short of that loses. Crossover comics are non-canon, so don't bother with them.

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Great Evil Beas, Lucifer Morningstar, Superman Prime One Million and God Swamp Thing could each send hm packing, even with his silly HOTU.

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@sog7dc said:

thought robot solos them and sends them crying back to marvel

No.HOTU Thanos is destroying TR.

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@darkraiden: HOTU is not Universe.The HOTU is Omniverse level.

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It's not Omniverse level, cause people in a certain universe weren't affected, at best it's Multiverse level. Either way Lucifer is ABOVE the Omniverse and exists outside of it and all of creation as does Michael. It will not affect them.

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Either way Lucifer is ABOVE the Omniverse and exists outside of it and all of creation as does Michael. It will not affect them.

no he isn't, he couldn't escape yahweh's creation (which is a multiverse not omniverse), that's why he accepted to do heaven's bidding in return for the letter of passage which granted him a way outside God's creation.

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Over-Monitor and Great Evil Beasts are DC's only hope.

Everyone is screwed.

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I really dont know but, what about the 5d imps? just to know more, why would they be useless/useful?

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Bye bye DC

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the spectre/fanthom stranger solos

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@ghostrider2 said:

If Morningstar can't do a trick, DC is doomed.

Thanos tricks>Morningstar tricks

Actually no, Lucifer is far more smarter and devious then Thanos.

Don't believe me do research.

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Beyonder and Molecule Man have been added to the OP. Is it now impossible for DC to survive without using the presence?

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@reikai said:

HotU Thanos is 2nd only to TOAA. Anyone short of that loses. Crossover comics are non-canon, so don't bother with them.

Someone is going to mention Pre-Retcon Beyonder, but I agree with you.

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@dondave: what about the great evil beast

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DC will lose, in fact i believe that HOTU Thanos, Beyonder, Galactus and Dark Phoenix are more than enough to finish the job.

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@dondave said:

@spidermanandsuperman: He was absorbed into the Presence

no, a couple of issues later, in swamp thing v2 #76, it was revealed they were balancing each other:

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and it makes sense, considering what was originally portrayed.

DC will lose, in fact i believe that HOTU Thanos, Beyonder, Galactus and Dark Phoenix are more than enough to finish the job.

these won't really make a difference

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God Swamp Thing, Lucifer Morningstar (with the Demiurgic power), The Great Evil Beast and The Spectre (at a full power), could make a difference for the DC universe.

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WF Mxzyptlk?

good day

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Mxy laughs at the pathetic HoTU

Also HoTU would even work as this is set in DC and HoTU only works in Marvel.

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Mxy laughs at the pathetic HoTU

Also HoTU would even work as this is set in DC and HoTU only works in Marvel.

So by that logic a Green Power Ring only works in DC?

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If Thanos + HOTU is below TOAA, that means he is not omnipotent, correct? If so, Michael/Lucifer team up should be able to beat him. Michael has infinite creative/destructive power and Lucifer has infinite ability to manipulate that power + infinite reality warping.

Plus, the IG stories showed us that Thanos always wants to lose deep down. LM could probably solo through manipulation.

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@mysticmedivh:

Depends if it's charged of not. The ring would work whilst it's charged and the power battery would hold another charge but cut off from Oa thays max

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here we go

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