Terminator (The Terminator) vs Tai Lung (Kung Fu Panda)

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From the 1st movie.
It was T-800 right? I don't remember it very well.
The fight takes place at Shifu's temple.
Bonus Round: They team up to fight MCU Thor.
Who wins the fights?

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Welcome to comic vine.

This is not a very good matchup.

Arnold is not a martial arts oriented fighter, so he will give very little resistance to any KFP character, let alone a top tier fighter like Tai Lung.

Besides difference in skill, their stats are not even comparable too. Terminator is barely above human level in anything, I'd say quantifying his strength as above wall level would be already a stretch. His speed seems to be even inferior to humans. And his durability is decent, but if a small homemade explosive can kill him, it's still nothing to brag about. Meanwhile, Tai Lung leaps hundreds of meters into the air, tanks a thousand feet fall on the face, moves faster than Shifu can blink, uses several tons of rock as a football and one shots 10 adult, armored rhinos with a single punch.

If a human would be level 1, and Terminator would be level 5, Tai Lung would be level 70 or something. I know these are asspull numbers but yeah... this is simply not close at all.

Tai Lung one shots.

I'd advise you look for matchups that can be compared closely to each other when it comes to stats and skill.

For example, a live actin character much closer to someone like Tai Lung when it comes to stats and skill would be the Beast from Kung Hu Hustle. An animated character much closer in stats and skill to someone like Terminator would be Wreck it Ralph.

All the best!

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Yeah, Tai Lung in a not-so-close fight.

Thor takes them like a champ in the bonus round.

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#4  Edited By Universenumber1  Online

@thoromdil: Thanks for your help. I'll try my best next time 😀

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@gangorca: What about nerve point?

I assume you want Thor at his strongest who is surrounded by his lightning cloak. It isn't enough to say that alone beats Tai Lung but it is enough to make CQC difficult for him. Add in his superior physicals (except for speed) and Stormbreaker and Thor takes it.

If you meant this for the actual fight, T-800 shouldn't be affected by the nerve strikes in terms of being paralyzed.

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@gangorca: I wasn't talking about T-800, he shouldn't be affected.
Thor is not fat to have defense against that. We saw it work against Tai Lung himself who is bulky. After that, he can easily rip his eyes off, or cut his throat.

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@gangorca: I wasn't talking about T-800, he shouldn't be affected.

Thor is not fat to have defense against that. We saw it work against Tai Lung himself who is bulky. After that, he can easily rip his eyes off, or cut his throat.

Thor would still be surrounded by lightning. Oogway manipulated Tai Lung's chi vs using nerve strikes. Not saying it wouldn't work on Tai Lung or Thor (and Tai Lung doesn't go for nerve strikes from the start).

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Spite. Lung one shots.

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@gangorca: Shouldn't Tai Lung have some kind of resistance to lighting? He beat up Shifu with fire. True, he doesn't go for nerve strike from the start, but he is too skilled.

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@universenumber1 said:

@gangorca: Shouldn't Tai Lung have some kind of resistance to lighting? He beat up Shifu with fire. True, he doesn't go for nerve strike from the start, but he is too skilled.

Tai Lung has never shown resistance to regular lightning, much less that of Thor's lightning. His skill and speed might be troubling enough to last him some time (whereas T-800 gets one-shotted by Thor and by Tai Lung for that matter).

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Tai lung could use one finger.

He beats thor.

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tai lung stomps. Not close

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@rawsos said:

Tai lung could use one finger.

He beats thor.

yeah no

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@darkthunder: you have an oogway pfp you know the feats.

There are no thor feats that put thor above Tai Lung except the star one.

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@darkthunder: you have an oogway pfp you know the feats.

There are no thor feats that put thor above Tai Lung except the star one.

haha. The dragon one alone puts him above tai lung

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this is A1 thor who was weakened. The guidebook states he LEVELED a mountain.

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I know his feats. I asked you for feat that put him even close to weakened thor

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@darkthunder: Blah Blah Blah here you go again

[Punches a rhino guard hard enough to knock him back and K.O. the rest of his squad.] (http://imgur.com/u9qX00M.gifv) (The average Sumatran Rhino weighs between 500–800 kg (1,100–1,800 lb), Also busts through a door being reinforced by two of said rhinos.

[Deadlifts boulders chained to his arms.] (http://imgur.com/vI6TGrK.gifv)

all of the above feats occur after twenty years of immobilization (that lock around his torso was an eight-point acupuncture lock. "The move you move the tighter they get." -Po, Kung Fu Panda 2)

Throws the tnt at the rhinos. one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle. The approximate radiant heat energy released during 3-phase, 600 V, 100 kA arcing fault in a 0.5 m × 0.5 m × 0.5 m (20 in × 20 in × 20 in) compartment within a 1-second period. The fact that the tnt didnt turn the rhinos to dust make the rhinos durability close to Iron mans. The fact that Tai lung one shot those rhinos makes his striking close to mjolnirs.

[Falls down a loooong flight of stairs while fighting Po.] (http://imgur.com/4uuFd2E.gifv)

based on this tiny scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYetyvy5dk the stairs are about 1.5 miles long. Falling down while being crushed by po (based on how he crushes the stair steps, id say he was about 290 pounds.

[Uses a feather to unlock his restraints.] (http://imgur.com/c9agEHL.gifv)

[Nerve strikes:] (http://imgur.com/eMw3AGq.gifv) Tai Lung's secret technique that immobilizes foes via pressure points.

[Uses a feather to unlock his restraints.] (http://imgur.com/c9agEHL.gifv)

unlocking a lock with a feather is genius level intellect.

Based on his skill alone he could easily beat thor. Add that with his speed and veryyyyy impressive striking he will never get hit by the slow thor and could very well oneshot.

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The leopard turns the robot into a metal pile although Terminator can probably kill Tai lung by detonating his hydrogen fuel cells, which would be a draw

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@darkthunder: U little wanker it says he leveled A MOUNTAIN TOP. Dont try to con me ever again u liar.

As you can see in the gif you posted right after the forest nor the mountain top was even scathed.

You think that just because you copy and paste feats from some other battle thread I wouldnt notice you have no idea what your talking about I have that mf book. Im done debating with you.

Also that isnt a f**king guide book its a book full of concept art and how the visuals came to be. feels bad now huh.

“featuring stunning concept art; full-color photographs from the set, as well as the finished film”

-The art of Marvels the Avengers

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@darkthunder: U little wanker it says he leveled A MOUNTAIN TOP. dont try to con me ever again u liar. As you can see in the gif you posted right after the forest nor the mountain top was even scathed. You think that just because you copy and paste feats from some other battle thread I wouldnt notice you have no idea what your talking about I have that mf book. Im done debating with you. Also that isnt a f**king guide book its a book full of concept art and how the visuals came to be. feels bad now huh.

haha resort to insults because you don't have an argument? He was on the ground, that shockwave couldn't have leveled the mountain top if he was on the ground LOL. You lack common sense. Your word<the guidebook. Concept art? LOL your an idiot

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@darkthunder: look at the post above #23 and 20. Dont post a scan that youve never read through yourself. you'll end up embarrassing yourself.

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@darkthunder: U little wanker it says he leveled A MOUNTAIN TOP. Dont try to con me ever again u liar.

As you can see in the gif you posted right after the forest nor the mountain top was even scathed.

You think that just because you copy and paste feats from some other battle thread I wouldnt notice you have no idea what your talking about I have that mf book. Im done debating with you.

Also that isnt a f**king guide book its a book full of concept art and how the visuals came to be. feels bad now huh.

“featuring stunning concept art; full-color photographs from the set, as well as the finished film”

-The art of Marvels the Avengers

and you thank that change anything? KK88 showed me this I'll ask him if its canon. Still doesn't change anything

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Tai Lung stomps.

Tai Lung vs The T-1000 or The T-X would be a better match-up.

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@darkthunder: U little wanker it says he leveled A MOUNTAIN TOP. Dont try to con me ever again u liar.

As you can see in the gif you posted right after the forest nor the mountain top was even scathed.

You think that just because you copy and paste feats from some other battle thread I wouldnt notice you have no idea what your talking about I have that mf book. Im done debating with you.

Also that isnt a f**king guide book its a book full of concept art and how the visuals came to be. feels bad now huh.

“featuring stunning concept art; full-color photographs from the set, as well as the finished film”

-The art of Marvels the Avengers

and you thank that change anything? KK88 showed me this I'll ask him if its canon. Still doesn't change anything

Proof you literally have never read over that scans you post and that you get your feats from other people. Thats straight up embarrassing dude.

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@rawsos said:
@darkthunder said:
@rawsos said:

@darkthunder: U little wanker it says he leveled A MOUNTAIN TOP. Dont try to con me ever again u liar.

As you can see in the gif you posted right after the forest nor the mountain top was even scathed.

You think that just because you copy and paste feats from some other battle thread I wouldnt notice you have no idea what your talking about I have that mf book. Im done debating with you.

Also that isnt a f**king guide book its a book full of concept art and how the visuals came to be. feels bad now huh.

“featuring stunning concept art; full-color photographs from the set, as well as the finished film”

-The art of Marvels the Avengers

and you thank that change anything? KK88 showed me this I'll ask him if its canon. Still doesn't change anything

Proof you literally have never read over that scans you post and that you get your feats from other people. Thats straight up embarrassing dude.

do you even have an argument? or are you going to cry over a little mistake I made? You are truly retarded

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@darkthunder: hey no hate dude, you do you, just saying it aint good. just dont con people ever again or itll come back around...

I did post feats im not going to bother reposting them again. look at post 20.

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@darkthunder: Blah Blah Blah here you go again

[Punches a rhino guard hard enough to knock him back and K.O. the rest of his squad.] (http://imgur.com/u9qX00M.gifv) (The average Sumatran Rhino weighs between 500–800 kg (1,100–1,800 lb), Also busts through a door being reinforced by two of said rhinos.

[Deadlifts boulders chained to his arms.] (http://imgur.com/vI6TGrK.gifv)

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no strike from tai lung comes close

all of the above feats occur after twenty years of immobilization (that lock around his torso was an eight-point acupuncture lock. "The move you move the tighter they get." -Po, Kung Fu Panda 2)

Throws the tnt at the rhinos. one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle. The approximate radiant heat energy released during 3-phase, 600 V, 100 kA arcing fault in a 0.5 m × 0.5 m × 0.5 m (20 in × 20 in × 20 in) compartment within a 1-second period. The fact that the tnt didnt turn the rhinos to dust make the rhinos durability close to Iron mans. The fact that Tai lung one shot those rhinos makes his striking close to mjolnirs.

did you factor in the armor?

[Falls down a loooong flight of stairs while fighting Po.] (http://imgur.com/4uuFd2E.gifv)

based on this tiny scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYetyvy5dk the stairs are about 1.5 miles long. Falling down while being crushed by po (based on how he crushes the stair steps, id say he was about 290 pounds.

[Uses a feather to unlock his restraints.] (http://imgur.com/c9agEHL.gifv)

[Nerve strikes:] (http://imgur.com/eMw3AGq.gifv) Tai Lung's secret technique that immobilizes foes via pressure points.

[Uses a feather to unlock his restraints.] (http://imgur.com/c9agEHL.gifv)

unlocking a lock with a feather is genius level intellect.

Based on his skill alone he could easily beat thor. Add that with his speed and veryyyyy impressive striking he will never get hit by the slow thor and could very well oneshot.

based on his physicals alone, thor STOMPS Tai Lung

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@rawsos said:

@darkthunder: Blah Blah Blah here you go again

[Punches a rhino guard hard enough to knock him back and K.O. the rest of his squad.] (http://imgur.com/u9qX00M.gifv) (The average Sumatran Rhino weighs between 500–800 kg (1,100–1,800 lb), Also busts through a door being reinforced by two of said rhinos.

[Deadlifts boulders chained to his arms.] (http://imgur.com/vI6TGrK.gifv)

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no strike from tai lung comes close

all of the above feats occur after twenty years of immobilization (that lock around his torso was an eight-point acupuncture lock. "The move you move the tighter they get." -Po, Kung Fu Panda 2)

Throws the tnt at the rhinos. one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle. The approximate radiant heat energy released during 3-phase, 600 V, 100 kA arcing fault in a 0.5 m × 0.5 m × 0.5 m (20 in × 20 in × 20 in) compartment within a 1-second period. The fact that the tnt didnt turn the rhinos to dust make the rhinos durability close to Iron mans. The fact that Tai lung one shot those rhinos makes his striking close to mjolnirs.

did you factor in the armor?

[Falls down a loooong flight of stairs while fighting Po.] (http://imgur.com/4uuFd2E.gifv)

based on this tiny scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYetyvy5dk the stairs are about 1.5 miles long. Falling down while being crushed by po (based on how he crushes the stair steps, id say he was about 290 pounds.

[Uses a feather to unlock his restraints.] (http://imgur.com/c9agEHL.gifv)

[Nerve strikes:] (http://imgur.com/eMw3AGq.gifv) Tai Lung's secret technique that immobilizes foes via pressure points.

[Uses a feather to unlock his restraints.] (http://imgur.com/c9agEHL.gifv)

unlocking a lock with a feather is genius level intellect.

Based on his skill alone he could easily beat thor. Add that with his speed and veryyyyy impressive striking he will never get hit by the slow thor and could very well oneshot.

based on his physicals alone, thor STOMPS Tai Lung

no strike from tai lung comes close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-UE7Et9OMskip to when tai lung strikes po from the sky. Keep in mind he did this after the fight, meaning at his weakest from the 20 years inprisonment+fight with the five

did you factor in the armor?

its already factored in because they took it point blank

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@rawsos said:
@darkthunder said:
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@rawsos said:

@darkthunder: Blah Blah Blah here you go again

[Punches a rhino guard hard enough to knock him back and K.O. the rest of his squad.] (http://imgur.com/u9qX00M.gifv) (The average Sumatran Rhino weighs between 500–800 kg (1,100–1,800 lb), Also busts through a door being reinforced by two of said rhinos.

[Deadlifts boulders chained to his arms.] (http://imgur.com/vI6TGrK.gifv)

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no strike from tai lung comes close

all of the above feats occur after twenty years of immobilization (that lock around his torso was an eight-point acupuncture lock. "The move you move the tighter they get." -Po, Kung Fu Panda 2)

Throws the tnt at the rhinos. one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle. The approximate radiant heat energy released during 3-phase, 600 V, 100 kA arcing fault in a 0.5 m × 0.5 m × 0.5 m (20 in × 20 in × 20 in) compartment within a 1-second period. The fact that the tnt didnt turn the rhinos to dust make the rhinos durability close to Iron mans. The fact that Tai lung one shot those rhinos makes his striking close to mjolnirs.

did you factor in the armor?

[Falls down a loooong flight of stairs while fighting Po.] (http://imgur.com/4uuFd2E.gifv)

based on this tiny scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFYetyvy5dk the stairs are about 1.5 miles long. Falling down while being crushed by po (based on how he crushes the stair steps, id say he was about 290 pounds.

[Uses a feather to unlock his restraints.] (http://imgur.com/c9agEHL.gifv)

[Nerve strikes:] (http://imgur.com/eMw3AGq.gifv) Tai Lung's secret technique that immobilizes foes via pressure points.

[Uses a feather to unlock his restraints.] (http://imgur.com/c9agEHL.gifv)

unlocking a lock with a feather is genius level intellect.

Based on his skill alone he could easily beat thor. Add that with his speed and veryyyyy impressive striking he will never get hit by the slow thor and could very well oneshot.

based on his physicals alone, thor STOMPS Tai Lung

no strike from tai lung comes close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-UE7Et9OMskip to when tai lung strikes po from the sky. Keep in mind he did this after the fight, meaning at his weakest from the 20 years inprisonment+fight with the five

again not close to the one I posted. He is wrecking concrete. Much better feat. THe shockwave was bigger too

did you factor in the armor?

its already factored in because they took it point blank

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Tai lung one shots

thor 7/10

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@darkthunder: it is close. in fact it may be even higher. Based on the height of the dust and the length

The value is 8 joules per Cubic centimeter. the area damaged was about 764554.858 cubic centimeters. thats about 6116438.864 joules, or about 1 Kilogram of TNT. puts it closer

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Tai Lung.

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T-800 will never be able to tag Lung. He turns it into trash.

Thor stomps.

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@rawsos:how does getting ko'd by a small blast translate to "close to Iron Man" level durability for fodder Rhinos?

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Tai Lung low diff.

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#44  Edited By rawsos

@kryptonianking88: they took it point-blank. Those explosions are able to blow up cars.

not bleeding edge like iron man 1

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#45  Edited By KryptonianKing88

@rawsos: that'd only be close to the first couple armors. His Mark VI from Avengers tanked 47 gj worth of energy, which is nearly 10,000 kg of tnt.

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@kryptonianking88:

His Mark VI from Avengers tanked 47 gj worth of energy

Do you mean Jericho no selling feat or those bulding seized supersonic blades or maybe something else ?

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@eredin12: Thor's lightning which shot his armor to 475% capacity

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@rawsos: when you put the rhino's durability at IM level, which armor do you mean?

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Throws the tnt at the rhinos. one kilogram of TNT can destroy (or even obliterate) a small vehicle. The approximate radiant heat energy released during 3-phase, 600 V, 100 kA arcing fault in a 0.5 m × 0.5 m × 0.5 m (20 in × 20 in × 20 in) compartment within a 1-second period. The fact that the tnt didnt turn the rhinos to dust make the rhinos durability close to Iron mans. The fact that Tai lung one shot those rhinos makes his striking close to mjolnirs.

you got this from wikipedia... LOL. Now, I don't understand much of the calc other than energy of 600 V, 100 kiloampere being released, but based on what you wrote, one kg TNT obliterates vehicles.

1 you have no way of knowing it was 1 kg of TNT

2 a vehicle busting explosion doesn't make them IM lvl LOL. IM ha tanked much more and a weakened thor dented him with a headbutt. Even IM 1 tanked a vehicle busting explosion and was still conscious

@rawsos said:

@darkthunder: it is close. in fact it may be even higher. Based on the height of the dust and the length

The value is 8 joules per Cubic centimeter. the area damaged was about 764554.858 cubic centimeters. thats about 6116438.864 joules, or about 1 Kilogram of TNT. puts it closer

how'd you calculate the height of dust? Thor's strike was much more powerful than 1 kg TNT