How are they gonna put Wolvie down?
Punch or Throw him really far
Electrocute him which he is weak to
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How many mountain busting punches can he tank to the face before he has to stop fighting
This is from the shockwave of her punch
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Storm morals off is a scary thing. She solos handily.
What would she do to Garnet. Lightning doesn't work, heat doesn't work, cold doesn't work. She could try stealing their breath but they don't breath.
Kitty phases their heads together.
That shouldn't kill them they can just fuse/defuse from their. Their body is made of energy they can manipulate nearly completely freely.
Nightcrawler teleports their heads off. Or just summon bamfs and take them to Neyaphem.
This should knock them out and BFR may work. Though I did say morals on he couldn't solo.
Iceman HAHAHAHAHA he goes absolute zero freezing the whole planet.
How would they win the morals on version
And Nighcrawler could blitz them.
Garnet reacted lightning from a few feet away
Not to mention the gems were able to fight a short fight in the time it took for some tables and chairs to fall a few feet
Jumped fast enough to catch Amethyst, when Amethyst was hit down she moved so fast she caught on fire (mach 5) so Garnet moved so fast that a mach 5 object took longer to hit the ground than she did to reach its height.
Punch or Throw him really far
That's what Nightcrawler is for.
How many mountain busting punches can he tank to the face before he has to stop fighting
What makes you think he'll just get punched without throwing a few of his own. Do you think they can take a few indestructible claw slashes to the face?
What would she do to Garnet. Lightning doesn't work, heat doesn't work, cold doesn't work. She could try stealing their breath but they don't breath.
Fly them to the atmosphere.
That shouldn't kill them they can just fuse/defuse from their. Their body is made of energy they can manipulate nearly completely freely.
Wha-? I gotta catch up on my Steven Universe.
This should knock them out and BFR may work. Though I did say morals on he couldn't solo.
He'll still teleport them to Neyaphem. Or Have the Bamfs teleport them to a different planet.
Only Bobby and Kurt will solo morals on
Yeah anyone who thinks the gems beat the X men clearly don’t know how powerful they are also wolverine slices garnet to pieces don’t care what anyone says his adamantium skeleton is way too durable for her
I don’t know what happened to my previous comment, but in a nutshell:
•X-Men win, but not because of Wolvie.
•Garnet is probably one of the most useful fighters on the gem team. Future Vision, strength, and speed outclasses Wolverine.
Looks like I am gonna have to step in.
@perfectperson21: It's not impressive to move your up 2 inches and anyone can do it. it takes you less than a second to do.
She has Precog and her body is insulated you talking like there is a level of precision involved it's just a hand raise.
it only tells possibilities but that does change anything if she raises it deflects.
It's a cartoon, Laser and Lighting would be trackable with human eyes it not an actual dude.
Pearl connect to the ship with her brain tho and she has been shown lower than that most of the time I highly doubt she all gems are using their eyes alone to pilot starships.
She causes it to collapse but again that because it's Ice likely the monster ice they even get buried in snow, If I hit the support beam of a large building with a sledge it's don't make me or the hammer build level. Also, the Ice monster would have some part in it but whatever.
It's a big jump.
Know this would come up.
That Jasper fight is so dumb cause people will act like the explosion was powerful even though it had 0 yield the sand on the beach is fine and no crater in the mountain and I assume the ship Poofed like they do cause the do show the damage the volleyball game did but not the ship.
The glass feat show she can get with enough to match re-enter that is good and well shown but not mountain level thing drop from space a lot dude and heating sand to glass isn't enough to destroy a whole town.
Where did Opal show that feat? can you link that?
1) “It's not impressive to move your up 2 inches and anyone can do it. it takes you less than a second to do”
It is when your moving fast enough to block a lightning bolt. Future Vision or not, she blocked a lightning bolt before it could hit either herself or Steven.
It doesn’t matter if she had to move a couple inches. She still stopped that lightning bolt before it could hit. She is faster than that lightning bolt.
2) ”She has Precog and her body is insulated you talking like there is a level of precision involved it's just a hand raise.”
She may be, but Steven is not. And who cares how simple the action was. She still reacted faster tHan the lightning bolt.
3) “It's a cartoon, Laser and Lighting would be trackable with human eyes it not an actual dude.”
Oh god. Cartoon or not, the feat is obvious and Garnet doesn’t have many anti-feats to say its an outlier.
We are not gonna write off the feat because it’s coming from a kids cartoon. Otherwise, we wouldn’t count the Powerpuff Girls as superhuman, despite the fact that they literally deal with kaiju’s on daily.
4) “Pearl connect to the ship with her brain tho and she has been shown lower than that most of the time I highly doubt she all gems are using their eyes alone to pilot starships.”
If she is piloting it with her brain, than all she needs is her eyes to see where her destination is.
That being said, I don’t remember Pearl doing anything impressive with the ship, so this point is moot in my opinion. So for this point in particular, I am on your side.
5) “She causes it to collapse but again that because it's Ice likely the monster ice they even get buried in snow, If I hit the support beam of a large building with a sledge it's don't make me or the hammer build level. Also, the Ice monster would have some part in it but whatever.”
The ice monster didn‘t do anything. It was just her hitting the ice monster into the ice wall. The monster contributed nothing to the feat.
If you hit a support beam, you are the one responsible for its collapse. You may not be building level, but you are strong enough to destroy whatever the support beam is made of. The sledge hammer didn’t contribute anything beyond its weight. You still applied the force necessary to destroy the beam.
6) “That Jasper fight is so dumb cause people will act like the explosion was powerful even though it had 0 yield the sand on the beach is fine and no crater in the mountain and I assume the ship Poofed like they do cause the do show the damage the volleyball game did but not the ship.”
You are being very nitpicky.
Yes, the damage wasn’t entirely accurate to the widespread damage, but that could have been likely due to timing or whatever.
Either way, you do see that there is widespread damage across Beach City after the crash, displaying that it was indeed a dangerous crash. And there was indeed damage to the ship.
7) I don’t know if Opal is stronger than the four laser light cannons, but here....
Both had no effect.
1.2:No still isn't lightning reaction speed, cause one it is a reaction its timing and Precog does invalidate it.
She didn't see it and acts she predicted it. Any normal people can raise their arm before lightning can travel from the sky to the ground literally take half a second. It's fast just not that fast athlete or anyone with fast hands and arm control can do it.
3. Not the point, it's inaccurate if it was accurate you wouldn't see it so measuring pixels mean nothing. It's misattributing.
If they do it accurate sure like that Glass feat but this isn't.
4.Doubtful but true not enough to go on.
5.Well physic says it does, I was pushed into the wall. It's weight+garnet's blow = impact force.
Causing heavy shaking resulting in an avalanche.
Either way,count that as Mountain level is very inaccurate
6. It's not nitpicky they don't do that stuff all the time and gems have poofed from less just being as accurate as possible.
Also, you see that it's mostly debris and most broken glass so, No high damage but given it might be due to the angle.
The image is a great example of yield I missed the picture but it's still isn't as good as people say. Very good tho.
The house right next to it is still intact.
7.I'd say less cause they block the cannon but no sell the arrows hard to say.
1) She foresaw a scenario (or perhaps multiple scenarios) of it happening. There is never a guarantee of it happening. It’s a possibility. She had to be ready for it.
Since when has any human reacted to lightning? I am positive you are reaching with this one.
2) That doesn’t change what it is. Your problem is the accuracy of you seeing it happen before your own eyes on tv show meant to display things for the viewer to see and understand. They most likely stylize it that way for dramatics or because it matches the shows style. You may not like it, but that is in the end what is being represented on the show. Electricity moving from point A to point B. As such, we will treat the way it was represented.
3) Then by all means, accurately say what the range of that feat is exactly and what would happen to that mountain if she did that same thing multiple times. (Which is entirely possible since it takes a lot to tire out a gem)
4) We are representing these characters at their baseline best. We are not applying anti-feats unless they are plentiful.
And you can’t exactly scale Garnet to your average gem. As a fusion, she is supposed to be not only stronger, but more durable than you average gem.
5) That is because the house is hugging the front of the mountain, out of reach of the giant hand off to the side of the mountain. None of the limbs were hanging over the house and there would be no possible way for any pieces to land on that house with the way it landed.
6) Yeah, that is where my confusion about their statement is on Opal’s arrows being more powerful than four laser cannons. Maybe they misremembered?
1. Precog is Precog level of accuracy isn't important on less you show there was a very low chance of her getting it right this time.
You're comparing the speed of raising "one arm" up in full 2 inches while prepped for it to strike you with lightning that travels 5 or 10 miles.
If a human had the same precog and insulation they could do the same thing.
2. But it's not comparable if it's not accurate.
Like it several shows i.e Ben 10, they dodge gunfire and laser normal people mind you. If it not done right then it's just fast and can be understood as such also that implies the animator thought about it before doing it which I can't say they didn't but highly doubt they meant it to be taken that way given the context of the episode.
3. Around Small building, the cave even gives time to send Steven away to which if Garnet was MT level it would collapse instantly most likely.
4. It's True, I just think some feat might be wrong based on the show. Just think some are overscaled and do track other showings.
5. If the blast was as strong as most say it should be gone. But again could be the angle shielding it.
6.No idea, but not perfect at remembering I'd say Obsidian, Alex and maybe Sugilite could.
in conclusion, I'd say there are strong but I take some feats with a grain of salt.
1) I really don’t believe a human is capable of moving that fast to block lightning, precog or not.
Maybe if they were to practice blocking things at high speed like maybe a soccer goalie or a baseball player, who specialize in anticipating fast moving objects, then there could be a possibility. Even then, these players are not handling the same speeds as a lightning bolt strike.
2) Except you are comparing normal humans to someone meant to be portrayed as an alien with superhuman qualities. Garnet is by no means Superman, but the skepticism of Garnet‘s speed should not be likened to human’s trying to dodge lasers. She is a one half of a sentient mineral species that can specifically run fast with the other half having super-strength. Unless something is clearly contradicting this kind of speed, there should be no reason to be so skeptical about it.
And I am positive Garnet’s capabilities was most certainly taken into account for this episode. Even if it’s something as simple as, “Garnet is super-fast and strong. She could totally block a lightning bolt!”
3) Hmm.....I’d say a little larger than building level, but I am not against saying it’s less than mountain size. After all, she shaved off a piece of a mountain. Whether it was a chain reaction or not, it still had to be a powerful enough blow to get a reaction like that. That is depending on the type of avalanche you are dealing with.
This reminds me of an episode of Film Theory talking about Avalanches. Theory aside, lots of info I never knew about it. So, I’m not adverse to saying Garnet’s punch is weaker than mountain levels.
4) That does tend to happen in any medium, but we would need an actual baseline before saying that feat is an outlier.
So then we establish: what is Garnet’s baseline? Cuz as I said before, at least one half of her specializes in her speed, which will be augmented when she fuses.
5) As I said before, the house is hugging the front of the cliff. It is basically shielded from the blast, unless the blast was to be strong enough to crumble the cliff completely, which doesn’t appear to be the case.
6) Debatable. The new gem vehicle was never really tested beyond its debut. And we can’t really scale to the diamond mech limbs. It’s more of a feat for the ships than it is for Opal.
1. Unless you know how much time it would take to raise your arm vs lightning, it probably just above average.
2. At that point, you might as well say they dodge laser so they are faster than light. This is even really helpful if you take that at face value I get it but I don't if it was casual sure but this is not consistent.
3. That a chain reaction, I'm sticky with around building level.
4. We gem differ depend on some factors but I haven't seen and that show off wild power level, Also Garnet has been helped by other fusion which suggests she isn't strong enough.
Tower especially can't be mountain and Garnet could do it.
as for speed, other Rubies do seem all that geared to speed or reaction.
Sapphire tho speed and reaction but in the baseball game speed misses before focusing and If they are near lighting level reaction she shouldn't distraction or no.
5. Same.
6.Same.
She didn't slow anything the plough through, the cannons were blocked suggest they were a minor threat.
as shown 1:39
Complete no sell.
Garnet's Universe My guy what?
Non-canon: That is literally not a real episode there is a talking frog and Rabbit, Ronaldo turns things into doughnuts.
Avalanche it's called a chain reaction like if you blow up part of a Water Dam the water will cause more damage till it falls.
also, The radio Tower is stronger than a mountain and she needed to be Suga to break it.
Xmen win, why talk about Lapis?
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