Team Prepers vs Lucifer Morningstar

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Vril Drox
Dexter 
 
 
Probably two of the most smartest chracter I know
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 Ironman
 Batman
 
Really? I know they are prep kings, but against the others they are nothing.

"Doctor Doom did steal the Beyonder's power... "

" Add:  Vril Drox Dexter     Probably two of the most smartest chracter I knowRemove:  Ironman  Batman  Really? I know they are prep kings, but against the others they are nothing. "

They don't stand a chance.

" They don't stand a chance. "

"@_Courage_ said:

"Doctor Doom did steal the Beyonder's power... "

Lucifer has 2 things that the Beyonder didn't though... Imdominible willpower and the abilty to reason with anyone and make them do anything. "

" @Susanoo said:

"@_Courage_ said:

"Doctor Doom did steal the Beyonder's power... "

Lucifer has 2 things that the Beyonder didn't though... Imdominible willpower and the abilty to reason with anyone and make them do anything. "

That is true, but I was more referring to the power levels of the two characters. If Doom or the team came up with something and Lucy couldn't use these techniques or had no choice in the matter, the team would succeed, hence the reference to Beyonder. "

"@Susanoo said:

"@_Courage_ said:

"Doctor Doom did steal the Beyonder's power... "

Lucifer has 2 things that the Beyonder didn't though... Imdominible willpower and the abilty to reason with anyone and make them do anything. "

That is true, but I was more referring to the power levels of the two characters. If Doom or the team came up with something and Lucy couldn't use these techniques or had no choice in the matter, the team would succeed, hence the reference to Beyonder. "

" @_Courage_ said:

"@Susanoo said:

"@_Courage_ said:

"Doctor Doom did steal the Beyonder's power... "

Lucifer has 2 things that the Beyonder didn't though... Imdominible willpower and the abilty to reason with anyone and make them do anything. "

That is true, but I was more referring to the power levels of the two characters. If Doom or the team came up with something and Lucy couldn't use these techniques or had no choice in the matter, the team would succeed, hence the reference to Beyonder. "

Doesn't Lucifer carry some Omniscience with him or something? "

" @Susanoo said:

" @_Courage_ said:

"@Susanoo said:

"@_Courage_ said:

"Doctor Doom did steal the Beyonder's power... "

Lucifer has 2 things that the Beyonder didn't though... Imdominible willpower and the abilty to reason with anyone and make them do anything. "

That is true, but I was more referring to the power levels of the two characters. If Doom or the team came up with something and Lucy couldn't use these techniques or had no choice in the matter, the team would succeed, hence the reference to Beyonder. "

Doesn't Lucifer carry some Omniscience with him or something? "

He, might? I think he has semi-Omnisciene not sure what all that includes. Although, might take that out of battle or else this would be pointless. XD "

" @OmegaDynasty said:

" @Susanoo said:

" @_Courage_ said:

"@Susanoo said:

"@_Courage_ said:

"Doctor Doom did steal the Beyonder's power... "

Lucifer has 2 things that the Beyonder didn't though... Imdominible willpower and the abilty to reason with anyone and make them do anything. "

That is true, but I was more referring to the power levels of the two characters. If Doom or the team came up with something and Lucy couldn't use these techniques or had no choice in the matter, the team would succeed, hence the reference to Beyonder. "

Doesn't Lucifer carry some Omniscience with him or something? "

He, might? I think he has semi-Omnisciene not sure what all that includes. Although, might take that out of battle or else this would be pointless. XD "

Haha yeah. I believe that will affect his power of reasoning as well as other areas as well. "

Also remember that even Death of the Endless has no claim on Lucifer...well, at least that's what Lucifer said=P

" Also remember that even Death of the Endless has no claim on Lucifer...well, at least that's what Lucifer said=P "

" @_Courage_ said:

" @Susanoo said:

"@_Courage_ said:

"Doctor Doom did steal the Beyonder's power... "

Lucifer has 2 things that the Beyonder didn't though... Imdominible willpower and the abilty to reason with anyone and make them do anything. "

That is true, but I was more referring to the power levels of the two characters. If Doom or the team came up with something and Lucy couldn't use these techniques or had no choice in the matter, the team would succeed, hence the reference to Beyonder. "

Despite Beyonder's powers he really seem like the sharpest tool in the shed to me. Unlike Lucifer, perhaps it's the way that he carried himself. "

/facepalm

Yup, zero chances.

an even if joker or Dr Strange was added they still lose Lucifer knows how to read anyone no matter how smart, insane or powerful they are.

lucfier is said to god smarts and beautiful creation so he wins

Add The Doctor and John Constantine then I'd say the team has a chance. Remember Lucifer doesn't have his wings here, he'd have to rely solely on his words and manipulation to stop them. Basically, if the team can keep his mouth shut they could win.

@scoop316: keep his mouth shut? i do not mean to sound like a fanboy, but he can beat them easily. here: http://www.comicvine.com/lucifer-morningstar/4005-24232/forums/dread-lord-and-new-52-lucifer-respect-thread-1514774/#13

Thanos, Doom, and Richards could possibly pull something off with enough prep... Say about 2 weeks to a month

Without wings he loses. With them it would take Beyonder Doom or HOTU Thanos to win

It's something of a misconception that him not having his wings affects his(Lucifer's) power-levels. His wings are for traversing dimensions and realms he otherwise wouldn't be able to AKA transportation.

He's just as powerful without them.

@bronze_surfer: nope, his most fearsome power is not his will, or reality bending, it is his mind. he is the ultimate manipulator. it is hard to find so powerful a being, normally it is like, the guy is going to be either really smart, or ridiculously powerful. the dread lord is both.

http://www.comicvine.com/lucifer-morningstar/4005-24232/forums/dread-lord-and-new-52-lucifer-respect-thread-1514774/#13

and for the record, beyonder is kind of retarded, lucifer will easily trick him. and if the HOTU only gives omnipotence, not omniscience, then lucifer wins too. not by power, but again by his intellect

Welp. Batman + prep time = Win

Chew force Batman solos

Otherwise team gets destroyed

@artyom

Lucifer doesn't even use his powers, he simply tricks them into committing suicide.

you forgot john constantine and lucy will kill them all with ease

Morningstar erases.

You could literally give the team a millenium of prep and Lucy would win 10/10

Their only chance is to pray to Batgod for help..

i´m just imagine all those work together and prepare something really big, while lucifer watch them from a far and does nothing. then the day of the battle is come and Lucifer blows up their universe, then he laughs like a mad man :D

Actually it'd be far more in character for him to simply adjust his tie, take a sip from his champagne/wine-glass, and casually continue whatever he was doing beforehand.

Lucifer doesn't give a sh!t, haha.

Lucifer stomps them.

Lack of John Constatine in this thread...disturbs me..

Jmarshmallow

Like this

@omegadynasty: why would something like say the original gauntlet not work in DCU?

That being said, without something on the scale of the gauntlet, they don't stand a chance

@thegrayghost:People have a tendency of believing so due to this instance.

@xiix: well a) thats non canon ( for marvel) and b) the gauntlet had already been retconned at this point to " one in each universe and does not work outside its home universe" iirc though still some way away from the modern day " may explode from trying to move a single planet" version

That being said , the original gauntlet worked just fine everywhere, specific examples being the ultraverse and Magus merging two separate universes with a thought from the incomplete gauntlet. .....while he himself is in a completely different universe

Add constantine

@starheart_alan_scott999: Lucifer without his wings is still a formidable foe physically, and if he decides to fight, he still would be formidable

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/lucifer-morningstar-1755/lucifer-morningstar-respect-thread-1514774/

But that is useless when he's facing someone like Thanos, who can slap his brain out of his head. And I doubt he would be foolish enough to use physical power.

His mind is literally the greatest barring omniscients, but here, I really don't know whether he'll win or not. These are pretty powerful preppers and minds, the greatest, so for now, I think lucifer loses.

@starheart_alan_scott999: Wait, no. Lucifer wins. I just went over his comics and remembered what he'd done. I shouldn't have forgotten, but its been a while since I debated for him.

Batman out-wills him.