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#1 Edited by Big_DD (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Arrow + Team Flash + Legends of Tomorrow + Supergirl vs. Team Cap + Team Iron Man

This is the first time I’ve posted on this forum, but in anticipation of the huge crossover in the Arrowverse next week, I’d like to put all the heroes form that event against the Avengers from the MCU (I’ve chosen for the entire crew during Civil War movie).

I’ll propose two scenarios: a hero-versus-hero battle, in which I’ll try to match individual heroes in the best way I can and a team-versus-team battle.

Setting:

Some interdimensional beings fed the heroes lies to let them battle: the Avengers believe the DC heroes are trying to destroy their earth with their dimension rifts, while the DC heroes believe that the Avengers are coming to invade their earth. So morals on, but they’ll all fight to win. (KO or Death or BFR, depending on the characters morals)

It’ll take place in an abandoned sawmill in Central City, where the Avengers enter through a dimensional rift. None of both parties knew where the fight would take place.

Both teams had a day to prep, but without any knowledge of their opponent and nothing out of normal. (So for example Natasha can bring her shock-sticks, but she can’t bring Loki’s scepter.)

Info: http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Characters, http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/675889-captain-america-civil-war-characters-guide

Scenario one:

Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) - Captain America (Steve Rogers)

The Flash (Barry Allen) - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff)

Supergirl (Kara Danvers) - Iron Man (Tony Stark)

White Canary (Sara Lance) - Black Widow (Natasha Romanov)

The Atom (Ray Palmer) - Ant-man (Scott Lang)

Firestorm (Jefferson Jackson/Martin Stein) - Vision

Spartan (John Diggle) - The Winter Soldier (Bucky Barnes)

(Speedy (Thea Queen) - Hawkeye (Clint Barton)

Vixen (Amaya Jiwe) - Black Panther (T’Challa)

Steel (Nate Heywood) - War Machine (James Rhodes)

Vibe (Cisco Ramon) - Spiderman (Peter Parker)

Heat Wave (Mick Rory) - Falcon (Sam Wilson)

Who’d win? And let me know if you'd have paired them different and for what reason.

Scenario two:

Team versus team, Overwatch (Felicity Smoak) and Nick Fury will both oversee the fight from a distance. No time travel and backup allowed. Who’d win?

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#2 Edited by APEX_pretador (18939 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) - Captain America (Steve Rogers)

The Flash (Barry Allen) - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff) - Flash if bloodlusted and competent. Otherwise Wanda.

Supergirl (Kara Danvers) - Iron Man (Tony Stark)

The Atom (Ray Palmer) unlezs antman needs to go between molecular size - Ant-man (Scott Lang)

(Speedy (Thea Queen) - Hawkeye (Clint Barton)

Steel (Nate Heywood) - War Machine (James Rhodes)

Don't know about others

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#3 Edited by RBT (26286 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) - Captain America (Steve Rogers)-- With prep. Oliver will definitely have upper hand.

The Flash (Barry Allen) - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff)-- Barry, rather easily.

Supergirl (Kara Danvers) - Iron Man (Tony Stark)-- Mismatch.

White Canary (Sara Lance) - Black Widow (Natasha Romanov)-- Sara.

The Atom (Ray Palmer) - Ant-man (Scott Lang)-- Ant Man if he uses his discs properly. Otherwise Ray.

Firestorm (Jefferson Jackson/Martin Stein) - Vision-- Vision.

Spartan (John Diggle) - The Winter Soldier (Bucky Barnes)-- Bucky.

(Speedy (Thea Queen) - Hawkeye (Clint Barton)-- This could go either way. If Clint manages to snipe her before she closes in, he wins. Otherwise, Thea would annihilate him in h2h.

Vixen (Amaya Jiwe) - Black Panther (T’Challa)-- T'Challa.

Steel (Nate Heywood) - War Machine (James Rhodes)-- Steel.

Vibe (Cisco Ramon) - Spiderman (Peter Parker)-- Peter, most likely.

Heat Wave (Mick Rory) - Falcon (Sam Wilson)-- Sam.

Team versus team, Overwatch (Felicity Smoak) and Nick Fury will both oversee the fight from a distance. No time travel and backup allowed. Who’d win?-- Team Arrowverse. With Kara being a huge MVP.

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#4 Posted by ConnorDorian (1320 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) - Captain America (Steve Rogers) - Olie

The Flash (Barry Allen) - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff) - Barry

Supergirl (Kara Danvers) - Iron Man (Tony Stark) - Civil War armour Tony loses.

White Canary (Sara Lance) - Black Widow (Natasha Romanov) - Sara

The Atom (Ray Palmer) - Ant-man (Scott Lang) - Ray stomps

Firestorm (Jefferson Jackson/Martin Stein) - Vision - Firestorm

Spartan (John Diggle) - The Winter Soldier (Bucky Barnes) - Buck

(Speedy (Thea Queen) - Hawkeye (Clint Barton) - Tie

Vixen (Amaya Jiwe) - Black Panther (T’Challa) - T'Challa

Steel (Nate Heywood) - War Machine (James Rhodes) - Steel

Vibe (Cisco Ramon) - Spiderman (Peter Parker) - Peter

Heat Wave (Mick Rory) - Falcon (Sam Wilson) - Sam

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#7 Posted by Green_Tea (10270 posts) - - Show Bio

@connordorian: and steve isn't beating Ollie with better feats fom his movies?

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#8 Posted by TheSuperor (5794 posts) - - Show Bio

@solid_snake97: In standard gear and with prep, there is a decent chance that Ollie is beating Cap

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#9 Posted by mrmonster (13636 posts) - - Show Bio

Scenario 1

Winners are Captain America, Flash, Supergirl, Black Widow, Atom, Vision, Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, Vixen, War Machine, Spider-Man, Heatwave

Scenario 2: Team DC. Even though team Marvel won more individual rounds, they have no one in their entire roster that could go up against Supergirl.

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#10 Edited by uugieboogie (13017 posts) - - Show Bio

Scenario 1

Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) - Captain America (Steve Rogers) - Still Steve

The Flash (Barry Allen) - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff) - Competent Barry should stomp

Supergirl (Kara Danvers) - Iron Man (Tony Stark) - Kara stomps

White Canary (Sara Lance) - Black Widow (Natasha Romanov) - Maybe Sara for a slim majority

The Atom (Ray Palmer) - Ant-man (Scott Lang) - Ray

Firestorm (Jefferson Jackson/Martin Stein) - Vision -Vision

Spartan (John Diggle) - The Winter Soldier (Bucky Barnes) - Mismatch Bucky stomps

(Speedy (Thea Queen) - Hawkeye (Clint Barton) - Toss up. Thea takes it in H2H but Clint takes a long range battle

Vixen (Amaya Jiwe) - Black Panther (T’Challa) - I'd back T'Challa for a majority

Steel (Nate Heywood) - War Machine (James Rhodes) - Citizen Steel unless War Machine's sonics can effect him

Vibe (Cisco Ramon) - Spiderman (Peter Parker) - Spidey

Heat Wave (Mick Rory) - Falcon (Sam Wilson) - Sam stomps

Scenario 2

Probably CW team with Kara as MVP. Although she has shown trouble with an opponent with phasing capabilities and it could be possible that Rhodey's sonics could effect the CW teams heavy hitters (they should easily effect the street level characters). And if Wanda isn't taken out immediately she could be a big problem for the CW team as well. If Wanda is taken out immediately and Rhodey's sonics have no effect on the heavy hitters the CW team should take a comfortable majority.

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#11 Edited by ArthurCurry89 (1657 posts) - - Show Bio

Scenario one:

Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) - Captain America (Steve Rogers): Ollie like he has beaten Flash but with more traps

The Flash (Barry Allen) - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff): Mismatch

Supergirl (Kara Danvers) - Iron Man (Tony Stark): Another Mismatch

White Canary (Sara Lance) - Black Widow (Natasha Romanov):Sara is superior to BW and she can take hax amulet to become magician

The Atom (Ray Palmer) - Ant-man (Scott Lang): Scott is much butter fighter, but Ray is a genius, he can shrink to erythrocite size and better versatility with suit + he himself invited costume and he has electric blasts

Firestorm (Jefferson Jackson/Martin Stein) - Vision: He is much more consistent

Spartan (John Diggle) - The Winter Soldier (Bucky Barnes): Poor Dig loses due to massive brute strenght inferiority

(Speedy (Thea Queen) - Hawkeye (Clint Barton): More feats, fights smarter, faster, better Martial arts, equal in archery

Vixen (Amaya Jiwe) - Black Panther (T’Challa): After Watching Vixen animated series she takes it

Steel (Nate Heywood) - War Machine (James Rhodes): With ease

Vibe (Cisco Ramon) - Spiderman (Peter Parker) IDK

Heat Wave (Mick Rory) - Falcon (Sam Wilson): No comment

Who’d win? And let me know if you'd have paired them different and for what reason.

Scenario two:

Team versus team, Overwatch (Felicity Smoak) and Nick Fury will both oversee the fight from a distance. No time travel and backup allowed. Who’d win?

Overwatch is more reliable and has shown greater teamwork

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#13 Posted by SupremeGeneration (10615 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap still beats Ollie.

Wanda shitstomps that overrated dumbass.

Kara spitestomps, tf is this.

Toss-up, leaning Sara.

Toss-up, leaning Scott.

Vision.

Bucky stomps.

Clint handily.

T’Challa stomps.

Steel eventually, though I don’t remember his explosive durability that well.

Spidey.

Falcon.

As for the team battle, Kara literally solos.

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#15 Posted by ANTHP2000 (23947 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve for the majoriry, decent fight.

Barry has the potential to one shot her, but he is so incompetent IC that he might get rekt.

Kara with no real effort.

Widow in a good one. Better gear and similar or superior skill/physicality.

Scott's superior.

Vision mops the floor with him.

Bucky stomps him.

Clint teaches her the basics.

Vixen seems too hax IIRC. T'Challa would win hand to hand.

Rhodey, his CW and I feats are beasty. Steel can't really touch him, and he has sonics and building scale explosives.

I don't know.

Sam flies up and shoots him.

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#16 Posted by ArthurCurry89 (1657 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve for the majoriry, decent fight. Captain cannot beat Ollie with prep. He just puts tons of automatic arrow launching traps like he fooled Flash 2 times.

Barry has the potential to one shot her, but he is so incompetent IC that he might get rekt.

Kara with no real effort.

Widow in a good one. Better gear and similar or superior skill/physicality.

Scott's superior.

Vision mops the floor with him.

Bucky stomps him.

Clint teaches her the basics.

Vixen seems too hax IIRC. T'Challa would win hand to hand.

Rhodey, his CW and I feats are beasty. Steel can't really touch him, and he has sonics and building scale explosives.

I don't know.

Sam flies up and shoots him.

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#17 Posted by ANTHP2000 (23947 posts) - - Show Bio

@arthurcurry89:

Yeah good luck with that when OP states specifically how neither team knows where the fight takes place.

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#18 Posted by SupremeGeneration (10615 posts) - - Show Bio

@eobard21: I didn’t say beats, I said spitestomps, so yea you’re right. Wanda doesn’t beat Barry, she spitestomps him.

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#19 Posted by ElderElijah190 (1852 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry or Cara could one-shot the marvel team here quite easily. Lol @ Wanda beating Barry in her wildest omnipotent dream though.

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Scenario one:

Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) - Captain America (Steve Rogers): With prep Oliver stomps without Cap very hard

The Flash (Barry Allen) - Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff): Barry jobs too many times. Kid Flash is much more competent

Supergirl (Kara Danvers) - Iron Man (Tony Stark): Stark extinction lool Stark don't know anything about Kryptonite or red sun .

White Canary (Sara Lance) - Black Widow (Natasha Romanov): Not holding back Sara wins with Mid difficulty + she can take mystical totem of death.

The Atom (Ray Palmer) - Ant-man (Scott Lang): Ray no contest. He himself is genius and i think London 2146 version is too much

Firestorm (Jefferson Jackson/Martin Stein) - Vision: Vision is weak in MCU

Spartan (John Diggle) - The Winter Soldier (Bucky Barnes): Bucky with mid difficulty

(Speedy (Thea Queen) - Hawkeye (Clint Barton): Speedy stomps. Too fast, too strong, too durable, shots are much faster. True clint is much better by feats marksman but it doesn't suffice to beat oliver's sister. In martial arts she trumphs + better senses. Thea can also get Arrows identical to Clint's one. In random encounter Speed easily wins

Vixen (Amaya Jiwe) - Black Panther (T’Challa): Not holding back Amaya stomps via spirit summoning, holding back loses from Vibranium claws ( she is badass but glass canon ) and BP is very smart and competent

Steel (Nate Heywood) - War Machine (James Rhodes): S2 Nate stomps no question but absurdly nerfed Nate from S3 and S4 is weak AF so idk.

Vibe (Cisco Ramon) - Spiderman (Peter Parker): Cisco too smart.

Heat Wave (Mick Rory) - Falcon (Sam Wilson): i have heard his gun can reach Planck temperature so i think Mick wins + fire totem

Who’d win? And let me know if you'd have paired them different and for what reason.

Scenario two:

Team versus team, Overwatch (Felicity Smoak) and Nick Fury will both oversee the fight from a distance. No time travel and backup allowed. Who’d win?

Felicity can hack S.H.I.E.L.D. easily + better team work

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#22 Posted by Eobard21 (4059 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry solos