Team 7, Jigen and Toneri vs Team War arc Otsutsuki

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  • All is bloodlusted
  • All Feats
  • All at their strongest
  • Perfect Teamwork
  • Immortality is retricted
  • Random Encounter-No Knowledge
  • Wins by Death or K.O

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Kaguya solos 🙃

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With immortality restricted Jigen Kills everyone.

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Yea, Kaguya spanks.

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Kaguya doesn't have a chance here not with everyone Bloodlusted and no knowledge on Jigen.

He can shrink off the bat and let his team distract then kill all 3 of them. He's faster and stronger by feats.

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Team 7 and Jigen stomps

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Jigen solos. Naruto and sasuke could solo too.

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The Jigen wank is unreal. Kaguya changes to the high gravity world and ash bones them.

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All feats

Kaguya onebangs the solar system, in the video games it took litterally everything they had plus errenous plot to stop her. Litterally, Video game Naruto and Sasuke are multi-continental with punches alone and they cant even hurt her.

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@braindrain: the same attack that everyone in team 7 can tank in the games?

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Team 1

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@adam2 said:

@braindrain: the same attack that everyone in team 7 can tank in the games?

I seriously hope you arent speaking on TSB, because that level of ignorance will result in me immediately invalidating anything you say and ending the conversation with you.

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All blood lusted? Any of the 3 cast IT right off the bat.

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@adam2: Clearly you do bud if you took the time to tag me and hear my opinion; you're dismissed.

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@braindrain: I tagged you because you made a stupid claim all feats are allowed, Naruto beats Kaguya in the games story and tanks her attacks.

Bye bye

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Team 2 stomp

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Team 2 easily.

Juubito > Toneri

Juubidara > Adult Naruto Or Sasuke

Kaguya > Jigen

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The Jigen wank is unreal. Kaguya changes to the high gravity world and ash bones them.

Jigen and Sasuke transport somewhere else, Kakashi goes intang.

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@hstgoddess said:

The Jigen wank is unreal. Kaguya changes to the high gravity world and ash bones them.

Jigen and Sasuke transport somewhere else, Kakashi goes intang.

Jigen and Sasuke have to physically move through their wormholes to teleport. They won't be able to move on the planet with such high gravity; she will simply open up a portal while they are pinned down and disintegrate them. Naruto and Toneri both get one-shotted. Kaguya ignores Sakura. DMS Kakashi would be a nuisance because of his intangibility. However, he cannot remain dematerialised while he uses Kamui to teleport, the trio will eventually catch him when he materialises and kill him.

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Everyone at there strongest???

The Biggest threat on team 1 is Toneri and DMS Kakashi. Toneri because at his strongest in the movie he was going to destroy the Earth with his Chakra Sphere. Kakashi because of intangibility hax. with that being said...

Kaguya solos with TSB.

Madara Solos because he is comparable to Kaguya.

Obito can spam Multi-continental Busters casually.

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#24  Edited By Anomalous

@braindrain said:

in the video games

Yikes. Imagine thinking video game animations mean anything

OT: team 1. Juubito is a complete non-factor by speed scaling and Adult Sasuke counters Kaguya BFR. Team 7 alone would get stomped but with Jigen and Toneri it's too much

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@braindrain said:

in the video games

Yikes. Imagine thinking video animations mean anything

OT: team 1. Juubito is a complete non-factor by speed scaling and Adult Sasuke counters Kaguya BFR. Team 7 alone would get stomped but with Jigen and Toneri it's too much

How would he Counter Her BRF? Especially if she Sends them to Gravity dimension where None of them can move.

No, Naruto gets one Shotted by Genjutsu from Rinne-Sharingan.

same with Jigen or Limbo simply stomps him and rips his soul out.

Toneri was one-shotted by continental Attack from Naruto which the Ten tails alone can spam out constantly. each member of team 2 is above the 10 tails which Completely shits on the 9 tails in chakra to the point it dwarfs him many times over.

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@mygod000 said:

How would he Counter Her BRF?

He's learned how to create portals with his rinnegan

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Especially if she Sends them to Gravity dimension where None of them can move.

Kakashi and Obito were able to move (run even). I think Naruto and Sasuke (who won't be fatigued from an entire war's worth of fighting this time) should be able to also.

@mygod000 said:

No, Naruto gets one Shotted by Genjutsu from Rinne-Sharingan.

What?

  1. Infinite Tsukuyomi is the only genjutsu that works on a perfect jinchuriki
  2. Sasuke has already reacted to it and protected others from it before. No reason he can't do it again
  3. We've never seen it used without the moon as a conduit, so it's not only 100% out of character but may even be impossible
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same with Jigen or Limbo simply stomps him and rips his soul out.

Limbo can only use taijutsu. And again, soul rip is something we've never seen Madara or Kaguya do. It's not completely illogical to assume they could, but since they haven't it probably shouldn't be an argument for how they win.

@mygod000 said:

Toneri was one-shotted by continental Attack from Naruto which the Ten tails alone can spam out constantly. each member of team 2 is above the 10 tails which Completely shits on the 9 tails in chakra to the point it dwarfs him many times over.

Kaguya is the only one above Juubi's DC by feats, and Naruto has a portion of each tailed beast's chakra. Not just Kurama. It's also worth considering that even though Madara's strongest jutsu are more powerful than Naruto's punch, it's not like EVERY strike Madara makes has country-busting force.

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#27  Edited By MyGod000

@anomalous said:
@mygod000 said:

How would he Counter Her BRF?

He's learned how to create portals with his rinnegan

@mygod000 said:

Especially if she Sends them to Gravity dimension where None of them can move.

Kakashi and Obito were able to move (run even). I think Naruto and Sasuke (who won't be fatigued from an entire war's worth of fighting this time) should be able to also.

@mygod000 said:

No, Naruto gets one Shotted by Genjutsu from Rinne-Sharingan.

What?

  1. Infinite Tsukuyomi is the only genjutsu that works on a perfect jinchuriki
  2. Sasuke has already reacted to it and protected others from it before. No reason he can't do it again
  3. We've never seen it used without the moon as a conduit, so it's not only 100% out of character but may even be impossible
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same with Jigen or Limbo simply stomps him and rips his soul out.

Limbo can only use taijutsu. And again, soul rip is something we've never seen Madara or Kaguya do. It's not completely illogical to assume they could, but since they haven't it probably shouldn't be an argument for how they win.

@mygod000 said:

Toneri was one-shotted by continental Attack from Naruto which the Ten tails alone can spam out constantly. each member of team 2 is above the 10 tails which Completely shits on the 9 tails in chakra to the point it dwarfs him many times over.

Kaguya is the only one above Juubi's DC by feats, and Naruto has a portion of each tailed beast's chakra. Not just Kurama. It's also worth considering that even though Madara's strongest jutsu are more powerful than Naruto's punch, it's not like EVERY strike Madara makes has country-busting force.

He's learned how to create portals with his rinnegan

I don't see how this is even helpful since Sasuke using this Move drops his powers to almost half.

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Moreover, 2 of the opponents have Rinne-Sharingan which is the strongest Dojutsu and can do the same thing but instead of creating portals, they drag everyone near them into another dimension.

Kakashi and Obito were able to move (run even). I think Naruto and Sasuke (who won't be fatigued from an entire war's worth of fighting this time) should be able to also.

Okay. Madara can Hit Kakashi with Rinne-Sharingan Genjutsu. the Moon was needed to Genjutsu to world Madara can, in fact, hit Normal I.T one individual without the Moon.

What?

  1. Infinite Tsukuyomi is the only genjutsu that works on a perfect jinchuriki
  2. Sasuke has already reacted to it and protected others from it before. No reason he can't do it again
  3. We've never seen it used without the moon as a conduit, so it's not only 100% out of character but may even be impossible

Not really, Obito hit the 3rd Mizukage who was a perfect Jinchuriki.

Limbo can handle Sasuke, also Madara only needed the Moon to cast I.T on the world. he doesn't need it to cast it on you individually.

We see Kaguya hit Hamura with it without using the Moon. Idk about it being impossible since we are talking about a Series where people can fly to the moon without any type of help. However, I do agree with you about it being out of character for him to do it. My response to that is who to say he wouldn't have done that next since Naruto and Sasuke was the last few people not trapped? We saw Madara show Obito the Move right before his death.

Madara literally Restricted by the plot, Otherwise, he would have Had Limbo clones walk up to Naruto and Just hit him with Light Fang.

Limbo can only use taijutsu. And again, soul rip is something we've never seen Madara or Kaguya do. It's not completely illogical to assume they could, but since they haven't it probably shouldn't be an argument for how they win.

We yeah, while Restricted by the Plot. Explain what Makes Limbo Different from Shadow Clones? it stated that Limbo clones have all of Madara abilities.

Kaguya is the only one above Juubi's DC by feats, and Naruto has a portion of each tailed beast's chakra. Not just Kurama. It's also worth considering that even though Madara's strongest jutsu are more powerful than Naruto's punch, it's not like EVERY strike Madara makes has country-busting force.

Not entirely true at all. The 10 Tails was spamming out continental level attacks.

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Not only that SM Hashirama Was able to immobilize the 10 tails pretty easily, while Juubi Obito broke out of the same blindings that immobilized the 10 tails Casaully while not even in full control of the 10 tails. Killer Bee even states that uncontrolled Juubiobito is more powerful than the Juubi by itself and saying the Juubi is stronger goes against what has been established in the series that JJ host is more powerful than non-host JJ.

You wouldn't say 9 tails is more powerful than Naruto+9 tails would you?

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This was from an Uncontrolled 10 tails Obito.

Madara is leagues and leagues more powerful which is why Kishimoto was nerfing him each chapter so that Naruto and Sasuke would stand a chance. By the time Naruto fought him Madara no longer had 9 TSB as he did in the Guy fight.

Madara at his strongest is comparable to Base Revived Kaguya who is much more powerful than Kaguya from the past.

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#28  Edited By Anomalous

@mygod000 said:

He's learned how to create portals with his rinnegan

I don't see how this is even helpful since Sasuke using this Move drops his powers to almost half.

Where was it ever stated that Sasuke is 50% weaker after creating a portal??? Even if you don't like the Sasuke BFR counter argument, Jigen can also create space-time portals.

@mygod000 said:

Moreover, 2 of the opponents have Rinne-Sharingan which is the strongest Dojutsu and can do the same thing but instead of creating portals, they drag everyone near them into another dimension.

Lol Madara can't create dimensions or teleport everything in large radius between them. That is a Kaguya exlusive ability not directly linked to Rinne-sharingan.

@mygod000 said:

Okay. Madara can Hit Kakashi with Rinne-Sharingan Genjutsu. the Moon was needed to Genjutsu to world Madara can, in fact, hit Normal I.T one individual without the Moon.

Based on what? Your opinion? It's not completely out of the question, but we don't have canonical proof of it.

@mygod000 said:

We see Kaguya hit Hamura with it without using the Moon.

The confrontation you're talking about was filler in the anime (and even there I don't remember Kaguya attempting to use IT directly on Hagoromo). She flexed on Hamura with her byakugan / chakra pressure or something if that's what you're talking about? Either way it isn't canon.

@mygod000 said:

We saw Madara show Obito the Move right before his death.

Madara couldn't have possibly used IT on Obito before his first death.... he didn't have rinne-sharingan. It was a generic genjutsu to explain the concept of his "perfect world".

@mygod000 said:

  1. Infinite Tsukuyomi is the only genjutsu that works on a perfect jinchuriki
  2. Sasuke has already reacted to it and protected others from it before. No reason he can't do it again

Not really, Obito hit the 3rd Mizukage who was a perfect Jinchuriki.

Limbo can handle Sasuke

  1. Where in the MANGA do we see that Yagura was a perfect jinchuriki. I think it was shown in anime filler or something but 99% sure that's not accurate.
  2. Sasuke can see limbo with his rinnegan, and it's been established already (in the manga) that Naruto can hold them off with only 1 clone each. Limbo aren't as strong as you want them to be.
@mygod000 said:

it stated that Limbo clones have all of Madara abilities.

When? Show me the officially translated scan where this was said. I find it hard to believe that Madara would say that and proceed to have them not use a single ability. you sure you're not thinking of his wood clones?

@mygod000 said:

Kaguya is the only one above Juubi's DC by feats, and Naruto has a portion of each tailed beast's chakra. Not just Kurama. It's also worth considering that even though Madara's strongest jutsu are more powerful than Naruto's punch, it's not like EVERY strike Madara makes has country-busting force.

You wouldn't say 9 tails is more powerful than Naruto+9 tails would you?

My point isn't that Juubi has more overall power inside it than Juubi jins. My point is that they don't put Juubidama levels of power into their attacks.

Think of it this way: someone can be a decent fighter irl just by being big and strong and hitting hard right? But if that strong guy is trained in combat he can be more dangerous by attacking with precision rather than just swinging as hard as he can.

That's sort of what we see with the Juubi jins. Yes the raw power is a factor, but you're being dishonest with yourself if you say that every ability they use has country-continent level power.

What we're really talking about here is "could Madara effortlessly 1 shot Toneri"? No. If Naruto was able to put up at least a decent fight against Madara then Toneri should be able to as well.

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This was from an Uncontrolled 10 tails Obito.

Not nearly as powerful as this

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@mygod000 said:

Madara at his strongest is comparable to Base Revived Kaguya

who is much more powerful than Kaguya from the past.

1. uhhh no, he isn't. The only comparable thing to Kaguya that Madara ever did was use IT. Other than that her chakra level, jutsu, etc. are in a different league.

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2. It's completely illogical to assume resurrected Kaguya is stronger than past Kaguya. She's missing chakra from not only every tailed beast but also thousands of shinobi. The Kaguya that fought team 7 was very much incomplete. And it's not like she was able to develop some crazy new jutsu while her body was a husk.

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Immortality restricted ? Team adult Naruto clears bruh. Jigen would slaughter Kaguya. This dude speedblitz adult Naruto when teen Naruto was too fast for madara and Kaguya.

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@mygod000 said:

He's learned how to create portals with his rinnegan

I don't see how this is even helpful since Sasuke using this Move drops his powers to almost half.

Where was it ever stated that Sasuke is 50% weaker after creating a portal??? Even if you don't like the Sasuke BFR counter argument, Jigen can also create space-time portals.

@mygod000 said:

Moreover, 2 of the opponents have Rinne-Sharingan which is the strongest Dojutsu and can do the same thing but instead of creating portals, they drag everyone near them into another dimension.

Lol Madara can't create dimensions or teleport everything in large radius between them. That is a Kaguya exlusive ability not directly linked to Rinne-sharingan.

@mygod000 said:

Okay. Madara can Hit Kakashi with Rinne-Sharingan Genjutsu. the Moon was needed to Genjutsu to world Madara can, in fact, hit Normal I.T one individual without the Moon.

Based on what? Your opinion? It's not completely out of the question, but we don't have canonical proof of it.

@mygod000 said:

We see Kaguya hit Hamura with it without using the Moon.

The confrontation you're talking about was filler in the anime (and even there I don't remember Kaguya attempting to use IT directly on Hagoromo). She flexed on Hamura with her byakugan / chakra pressure or something if that's what you're talking about? Either way it isn't canon.

@mygod000 said:

We saw Madara show Obito the Move right before his death.

Madara couldn't have possibly used IT on Obito before his first death.... he didn't have rinne-sharingan. It was a generic genjutsu to explain the concept of his "perfect world".

@mygod000 said:
  1. Infinite Tsukuyomi is the only genjutsu that works on a perfect jinchuriki
  2. Sasuke has already reacted to it and protected others from it before. No reason he can't do it again

Not really, Obito hit the 3rd Mizukage who was a perfect Jinchuriki.

Limbo can handle Sasuke

  1. Where in the MANGA do we see that Yagura was a perfect jinchuriki. I think it was shown in anime filler or something but 99% sure that's not accurate.
  2. Sasuke can see limbo with his rinnegan, and it's been established already (in the manga) that Naruto can hold them off with only 1 clone each. Limbo aren't as strong as you want them to be.
@mygod000 said:

it stated that Limbo clones have all of Madara abilities.

When? Show me the officially translated scan where this was said. I find it hard to believe that Madara would say that and proceed to have them not use a single ability. you sure you're not thinking of his wood clones?

@mygod000 said:

Kaguya is the only one above Juubi's DC by feats, and Naruto has a portion of each tailed beast's chakra. Not just Kurama. It's also worth considering that even though Madara's strongest jutsu are more powerful than Naruto's punch, it's not like EVERY strike Madara makes has country-busting force.

You wouldn't say 9 tails is more powerful than Naruto+9 tails would you?

My point isn't that Juubi has more overall power inside it than Juubi jins. My point is that they don't put Juubidama levels of power into their attacks.

Think of it this way: someone can be a decent fighter irl just by being big and strong and hitting hard right? But if that strong guy is trained in combat he can be more dangerous by attacking with precision rather than just swinging as hard as he can.

That's sort of what we see with the Juubi jins. Yes the raw power is a factor, but you're being dishonest with yourself if you say that every ability they use has country-continent level power.

What we're really talking about here is "could Madara effortlessly 1 shot Toneri"? No. If Naruto was able to put up at least a decent fight against Madara then Toneri should be able to as well.

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This was from an Uncontrolled 10 tails Obito.

Not nearly as powerful as this

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@mygod000 said:

Madara at his strongest is comparable to Base Revived Kaguya

who is much more powerful than Kaguya from the past.

1. uhhh no, he isn't. The only comparable thing to Kaguya that Madara ever did was use IT. Other than that her chakra level, jutsu, etc. are in a different league.

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2. It's completely illogical to assume resurrected Kaguya is stronger than past Kaguya. She's missing chakra from not only every tailed beast but also thousands of shinobi. The Kaguya that fought team 7 was very much incomplete. And it's not like she was able to develop some crazy new jutsu while her body was a husk.

It was shown in that whenever he opens portals he loses a massive amount of chakra. did you forget shin Uchiha was able to fight hand to hand with Sasuke right after he came back from traveling a dimension?

Lol Madara can't create dimensions or teleport everything in large radius between them. That is a Kaguya exlusive ability not directly linked to Rinne-sharingan.

But Madara did Create a Dimension.

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stated the user Creates an EMPTY Dimension under their Control.

Dimension Travel isn't Kaguya exclusive, Sasuke can do, Momoshiki can do it, Kinishiki can do it, even Boruto can travel a dimension with his new eye in one of the episodes.

Saying Madara can't when you don't have proof of that and there are at least 3 people outside of Kaguya who did. I see no reason to believe Madara can't do it.

Based on what? Your opinion? It's not completely out of the question, but we don't have canonical proof of it.

Just saying he could since Rinne-Sharingan is Rinnegan+Sharingan. it just not a Fair Assessment to assume he forgot how to use Sharingan abilities, just from being the Sage of Six paths.

My only proof that he could do it is that Kaguya was able to do it and she isn't even a Genjutsu specialist at least we can't assume she is better than Madara.

Anyways I am in no way saying Madara 100% off the Back is going to use that move, just saying he could use it. he actually doesn't need to use it because of he out powers everyone on team naruto anyways.

The confrontation you're talking about was filler in the anime (and even there I don't remember Kaguya attempting to use IT directly on Hagoromo). She flexed on Hamura with her byakugan / chakra pressure or something if that's what you're talking about? Either way it isn't canon.

He used I.T just on Hamura, but she just didn't use the moon, like she did the first time. I know, Byakugan can't cast Genjutsu to my knowledge, but if I am wrong kindly correct me. The only way she would have done this is with Rinne-Sharingan. Which Madara has and is better with Genjutsu than Kaguya since he is an Uchiha and all, plus it their specialty.

Madara couldn't have possibly used IT on Obito before his first death.... he didn't have rinne-sharingan. It was a generic genjutsu to explain the concept of his "perfect world".

not saying he used I.T I am saying he showed him the dream world that he was going to make and said it wasn't filled with anything yet.

  1. Where in the MANGA do we see that Yagura was a perfect jinchuriki. I think it was shown in anime filler or something but 99% sure that's not accurate.
  2. Sasuke can see limbo with his rinnegan, and it's been established already (in the manga) that Naruto can hold them off with only 1 clone each. Limbo aren't as strong as you want them to be.

Okay, I know it was anime filler. Yea...sasuke Can see Limbo, and that inconsistant feat since 1 Limbo clone was able to knock the Real Naruto back and it took 2 of his Shadow clones to hold one limbo clone who was weaker than the 4 New ones he created later on.

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Before all this was stated and Established:

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Creating Shadow clones Separates your chakra. Logically if 1 Limbo from a far weaker Madara was able to send Naruto back into next Weak 4 Much stronger one should be stronger than the real Naruto.

When? Show me the officially translated scan where this was said. I find it hard to believe that Madara would say that and proceed to have them not use a single ability. you sure you're not thinking of his wood clones?

It called Plot Restriction or being restricted by the plot. the point was naruto and Sasuke had to live so they had to Nerf Madara. Otherwise, why what was stopping Madara from just Absorb all of Naruto's Attack?

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it said Limbo is a Duplicate of himself. so what makes him different than Shadow clones which are Also Duplicates who can use all of Naruto's Abilities?

My point isn't that Juubi has more overall power inside it than Juubi jins. My point is that they don't put Juubidama levels of power into their attacks.

Think of it this way: someone can be a decent fighter irl just by being big and strong and hitting hard right? But if that strong guy is trained in combat he can be more dangerous by attacking with precision rather than just swinging as hard as he can.

That's sort of what we see with the Juubi jins. Yes the raw power is a factor, but you're being dishonest with yourself if you say that every ability they use has country-continent level power.

What we're really talking about here is "could Madara effortlessly 1 shot Toneri"? No. If Naruto was able to put up at least a decent fight against Madara then Toneri should be able to as well.

Obito did. didn't you forget he had used quad-Juubidama's from 3rd Form of the ten tails which was much stronger than the one you just posted? Not only that, but his TSB tanked that same attack like it was nothing as well as his shield that he made.

it's actually stated the TSB holds 10x more power than a Bijuu bomb. I'll have to look for that if you want to see it. That is plot restriction, Obito had used it 1 time and then they never let it happen again because it was going to kill everyone.

Yea, Madara can actually. Naruto from the Last One punched Toneri by Pooling in all his chakra into 1 fist and knocked him out. Madara is massively above Naruto, not only that he has over a planet worth of Chakra so I don't see why he wouldn't be able to do that when Naruto from the last was going to by from a moon busting attack which Kakashi begged for more time.

Not nearly as powerful as this

Well, I just went off that it was plot restriction just like how they were nerfing Madara down right before Naruto fought him.

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Obito takes a bit of Madara powers.

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Minato Teleporting away a lot of Madara's TSB.

If plot wasn't restricting MAdara I don't see why he can't just absorb all of Naruto's Spammable Jutsu like he did while he was Edo.

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Stated he can absorb Ninjutsu, and he just was able to Absorb Hashirama's Senjutsu.

1. uhhh no, he isn't. The only comparable thing to Kaguya that Madara ever did was use IT. Other than that her chakra level, jutsu, etc. are in a different league.

2. It's completely illogical to assume resurrected Kaguya is stronger than past Kaguya. She's missing chakra from not only every tailed beast but also thousands of shinobi. The Kaguya that fought team 7 was very much incomplete. And it's not like she was able to develop some crazy new jutsu while her body was a husk.

Yeah, Different Level. At best Kaguya is only 2x Madara, Maybe 3 if you count Rabbit Goddess.

Kaguya was only Missing 50% Chakra from the 9 tails that Naruto had, which is pretty irrelevant by the way.

because the God Tree had Absorbed BSM Naruto's Chakra+BM Minato's Chakra.

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As you can see BSM Naruto in the Right bottom corner.

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BM Minato Stated that the God Tree Absorbed his Chakra. Naruto on the Left Bottom Corner nearly drained Dry.

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Now, to your other Part. Kaguya never truly had all chakra back then because she shared it with her Kids who had a Good Chunk of her power. She never truly had all Chakra.

Lastly, Kaguya Back then was the Ten tails.

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The Ten-Tails is Kaguya as well.

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At the end, Madara had Just taken in Chakra that was greater than the Juubi's. So the 9 tails Chakra at that point is irrelevant when the Juubi Dwarfs the 9 tails by many times.

Yes, Madara at his stronger was Comparable to Kaguya.

Jigen doesn't have any feats close to Kaguya. adult Naruto and Sasuke in one of the Novels was said to be continental, which is not even incompletely Juubi Level since he can spam that level of power out casually. so I have a hard to believe Jigen does anything here when Kishimoto has ranked Adult Naruto and Sasuke in the Continental level power which is weaker than Juubi. Everyone on team 2 is above juubi especially Kaguya and Madara who took an extra Juubi Level power up at the end.

Kaguya is the Past didn't have ESTB, she wasn't spamming dimension-hopping. With Hagoromo statement about Kaguya in the past being the Juubi and the I.T chakra stated to be more than The Juubi. Revived Kaguay is definitely More powerful than she was in the past, Madara is too.