Nolanverse Bats had a fair bit of trouble with TDKR Bane. Could the Batman from The Dark Knight Returns fare better?
Setting: Amusement Mile
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Nolanverse Bats had a fair bit of trouble with TDKR Bane. Could the Batman from The Dark Knight Returns fare better?
Setting: Amusement Mile
Versus
A comic character Vs a movie character? No prizes for guessing wins this!
A comic character Vs a movie character? No prizes for guessing wins this!
A comic character Vs a movie character? No prizes for guessing wins this!
I see that people are writing Bane off like he's nothing, but this is not entirely the case.
A comic character Vs a movie character? No prizes for guessing wins this!
This quote for example, isn't entirely correct. Batman in Year One was an okay street-fighter at best and could barely escape a S.W.A.T team, while Batman in The Dark Knight was able to dispatch of a S.W.A.T team in a matter of minutes. I'd say the Batman in The Dark Knight could beat the Batman in Year One.
The Batman pictured in the OP is the Earth-55 DKR Batman. He was basically in two states:
The version that fought the mutant leader the first time, and lost - didn't have his robotic enhancements and he didn't fight smart, he was a crude slugger. He had given up his stealth abilities for strength.
I would say that the version of Batman that fought the mutant leader the first time would have a good fight with Bane (this version of Bane displayed superhuman strength).
I would love to see this in the battle fourm lol
I would love to see this in the battle fourm lol
It would be a good battle actually.
@frozen: I agree.
If this was the Batman pre-Mutant leader fight, Bane could win.
What do you mean? He didn't change afterwards.... he was fighting like a brawler on purpose because he wanted to see if he could win, the second time when he was fighting like himself he curbstomped the Leader. @ultrastarkiller
If this was the Batman pre-Mutant leader fight, Bane could win.
What do you mean? He didn't change afterwards.... he was fighting like a brawler on purpose because he wanted to see if he could win, the second time when he was fighting like himself he curbstomped the Leader. @ultrastarkiller
Yes he did, he changed his entire approach to the fight. Pretty sure he clarified that he couldn't beat The Mutant in a head on brawl.
So you are telling me that this battle is basically between:
Someone who gave SUPERMAN the beating of his life vs Bane from a movie....
I don't know... i mean really? Does this even need an answer?
I thought that was Dark Knight Rises Batman, too.
Comic Batman would stomp Movie Bane.
@frozen: firstly TDKR batman completely and utterly stomps
secondly can you show me clips from TDK where Batman brought down pillars and trees with one kick, with a broken leg in the first case. or durability to the point where he took a constant barrage of blows while holding on to a man on a ledge. or for that matter him tanking bullet after bullet with basically a threadbare nylon suit? or dodging bullets at point blank range?
only edge Baleman has is his suit And tech although year one bruce carries tranquilizer darts among other things. the suit aint saving balemAn from a kick that could bring down the roof with a broken leg
comic characters ALWAYS stomp movie characters
secondly can you show me clips from TDK where Batman brought down pillars and trees with one kick, with a broken leg in the first case
Bane in TDKR was able to shatter pillars with his bare fists. The closest Nolanverse Batman got was when he acquired the knee-brace (0:15):
or durability to the point where he took a constant barrage of blows while holding on to a man on a ledge.
Y1 Batman is not the master fighter he later becomes. He was a crimefighter who struggled with street thugs. The part you're referring to is when Batman fights a couple of thieves who try and steal a T.V, and he struggles with them.
Batman in The Dark Knight was shot point black by Dent, then hung from a cliff with Gordon's boy in one hand while suffering from injuries, and ultimately falling. He had some other notable durability feats.
or for that matter him tanking bullet after bullet with basically a threadbare nylon suit?
Nope. But we saw durability feats such as Batman falling from a skyscraper and then saving Rachel by landing on a car.
or dodging bullets at point blank range?
The closest Batman (Nolanverse) got was in the sewer scene in TDKR, where he dodges continuous fire.
only edge Baleman has is his suit And tech although year one bruce carries tranquilizer darts among other things. the suit aint saving balemAn from a kick that could bring down the roof with a broken leg
Y1 Batman was very incosistent. Yes, he was able to bring down a tree - but then struggled with street thugs (and only a few) and he barely escaped a S.W.A.T team. There are another few instances where he struggled with people on the street.
I'm not saying TDK Batman could beat New-Earth Batman, but he has a chance against the Y1 version. The Y1 version was very watered down.
comic characters ALWAYS stomp movie characters
Wrong.
If this was the Batman pre-Mutant leader fight, Bane could win.
What do you mean? He didn't change afterwards.... he was fighting like a brawler on purpose because he wanted to see if he could win, the second time when he was fighting like himself he curbstomped the Leader. @ultrastarkiller
Yes he did, he changed his entire approach to the fight. Pretty sure he clarified that he couldn't beat The Mutant in a head on brawl.
That's exactly what I said. :l He brawled on purpose to see if he could win, that's a choice he made. His fighting ability, his power, his strength, nothing changed imbetween fights.
If this was the Batman pre-Mutant leader fight, Bane could win.
What do you mean? He didn't change afterwards.... he was fighting like a brawler on purpose because he wanted to see if he could win, the second time when he was fighting like himself he curbstomped the Leader. @ultrastarkiller
Yes he did, he changed his entire approach to the fight. Pretty sure he clarified that he couldn't beat The Mutant in a head on brawl.
That's exactly what I said. :l He brawled on purpose to see if he could win, that's a choice he made. His fighting ability, his power, his strength, nothing changed imbetween fights.
Technically, he did change.
@frozen: Bane in TDKR was able to shatter pillars with his bare fists. The closest Nolanverse Batman got was when he acquired the knee-brace (0:15):
And how, repeat HOW is that even COMPARABLE to kicking down a pillar in half( which looks quite a bit like the pillar Bane broke...except he didnt just crack a small chunk, he pulverized the whole thing in half) AFTER getting shot in the leg, arm, barely surviving a car crash and having a bomb dropped on him?
Y1 Batman is not the master fighter he later becomes. He was a crimefighter who struggled with street thugs. The part you're referring to is when Batman fights a couple of thieves who try and steal a T.V, and he struggles with them.
Struggles with them? Sure when he is yknow, not actually fighting them but trying to save a guy from falling over. While another keeps kicking him on the arm he's holding the guy with
Batman in The Dark Knight was shot point black by Dent
Survived because of his suit. Y1 dodged a point blank shot and was hit from behind in the leg , then peppered with machine gun fire in a small room. Oh and he was shot in the shoulder before he even became Batman. He tanked it all to walk on his own feet to that classic "Yes father I shall become a bat scene"
, then hung from a cliff with Gordon's boy in one hand while suffering from injuries,
Wait a second, how were those injuries inflicted? Was it by any chance because of dogs and the Joker?
And (failing to) hold a little boy is comparable to holding a grown man while two others are kicking him and smashing a TV on his head?
and ultimately falling. He had some other notable durability feats.
Well duh...he has a kickass suit. Good for blunt damage, less likely to work against Y1's pillar smashing kick given that a weaker dude in Bane could smash his suit to pulp
Nope. But we saw durability feats such as Batman falling from a skyscraper and then saving Rachel by landing on a car.
First of all he didnt fall, he slid most of the way.
Secondly that's his suit again and not his own durability.
Thirdly they specifically make a point of noting that the suit will be no good for close range, concentrated attacks. As evidenced by Joker and his dogs hurting him and of course Bane beating him to pulp in the next movie
The closest Batman (Nolanverse) got was in the sewer scene in TDKR, where he dodges continuous fire.
Really? the scene where he keeps moving in an out of the dark against a scared guy as opposed to sitting right in front of a policeman who can only shoot through his cape?
Y1 Batman was very incosistent. Yes, he was able to bring down a tree - but then struggled with street thugs (and only a few)
Wait you mean struggled to hold onto a man's leg so he wouldnt die while other people kicked him and smashed a TV on his head, through his homemade suit? And the fact that he still beat them and hauled up the other guy to boot
and he barely escaped a S.W.A.T team. There are another few instances where he struggled with people on the street.
Barely escaped a SWAT team after he barely survived a car accident, had a bullet put through his leg, had a bomb dropped on the building he was in, losing most of his equipment to the fire, was shot again in daylight with no place to hide, STILL managed to break a pillar in half with his wounded leg and dropped a beam with another blow that the entire SWAT team was struggling to lift, before sending another crashing out of the building with ONE punch , before yes, finally escaping with a detour...
You mean "barely escaping" like that , right?
I'm not saying TDK Batman could beat New-Earth Batman, but he has a chance against the Y1 version. The Y1 version was very watered down.
Oh sure. Except he could kick down trees and tank bullets with a homemade suit. And kick down pillars AFTER tanking bullets with a homemade suit. Yeah that guy didnt ignore TVs smashing on him and send people crashing through brick walls with one punch after being shot and bombed AT ALL, did he?
Wrong.
So you think TDK Baleman who was knocked out after his motorcycle crash vs Joker could actually even beat Y1 Bruce Wayne, who took a bullet , THEN a car crash , then still had enough power left to walk home , sit and contemplate before finally calling his butler?
Yeah, right....
If this was the Batman pre-Mutant leader fight, Bane could win.
What do you mean? He didn't change afterwards.... he was fighting like a brawler on purpose because he wanted to see if he could win, the second time when he was fighting like himself he curbstomped the Leader. @ultrastarkiller
Yes he did, he changed his entire approach to the fight. Pretty sure he clarified that he couldn't beat The Mutant in a head on brawl.
That's exactly what I said. :l He brawled on purpose to see if he could win, that's a choice he made. His fighting ability, his power, his strength, nothing changed imbetween fights.
Technically, he did change.
*scratches head*
1. He was brawling on purpose.... He was fighting kids with guns before that, he was just as skilled before and after.
2. ....... I don't remember this at all..... Unless you mean in DKR2 where he had a robotic suit to help him fight Superman, or if you mean in The Dark Knight Rises where put a brace on his knee.
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