Symbiotes vs DCEU Superman

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#51 Posted by Oreoghoul (2655 posts) - - Show Bio

Symbiotes

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#52 Posted by Warlockmage (9548 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom solos

Carnage solos

Toxin solos

Anti-Venom... solos

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#53 Posted by TheKinfing (11906 posts) - - Show Bio

LMAO.

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#54 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18964 posts) - - Show Bio

LMAO.

You playing on contributing to the thread and giving an argument or is this all you have to say?

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#55 Posted by deactivated-5c1614a825ad8 (85 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman easily

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#56 Posted by Apocofist (3028 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure with Venom and Anti-Venom but Carnage and Toxin can definitely beat Superman.

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#57 Posted by xMangog__Beastx (4802 posts) - - Show Bio

Symbiotes.

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#58 Posted by felgrim (1117 posts) - - Show Bio

@kamigan: that's in extreme doubt.

OT: symbiotes

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#59 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

Lmao at venom soloing a multi thousand tonner with causal multi-building level striking power and hypersonic combat speed.

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#60 Posted by deactivated-5c1614a825ad8 (85 posts) - - Show Bio
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#62 Edited by Tenguswordsman (1891 posts) - - Show Bio

Team takes this.

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#63 Posted by Emanresu_20 (3113 posts) - - Show Bio

Carnage’s fight with Adam Alexander is is leagues above DCEU Supes is enough to give him the win.

Don’t know to much about the other symbiotes however.

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#64 Posted by Cerberus369616 (2174 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how the Symbiotes win against a person who creates sonic booms just by casually moving and punching and who has heat vision when they have a known weakness to extreme heat and Sonics. A superman who can move at a pace fast enough to render people who casually catch or deflect bullets as statues. Maybe I just don't know bout symbiotes anymore but this seems like it's practically a mismatch.

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#65 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

Did someone seriously just compare Sentry to DCEU Superman? Now that's funny.

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#67 Posted by BalancedTruth (1451 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman godstomps

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#68 Posted by panda_emperorix (4243 posts) - - Show Bio

He gets eaten

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#69 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman stomps.

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#72 Posted by Omandtellor (207 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom can solo dceu universe.

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#73 Posted by EternalDarkFury (3428 posts) - - Show Bio

Symbiotes in a massive stomp.

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#74 Posted by Bayman007 (2884 posts) - - Show Bio

None of these beat Clark

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#76 Posted by deactivated-5d3b5ee4922c4 (917 posts) - - Show Bio

superman blitz and throw them into the sun before they control him (legit). superman 15/15. gg for symbiotes

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#77 Posted by hopz7 (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman doesn’t have the feats to beat them. He can’t defend against the symbiote itself as he doesn’t have resistance feats to something like that. It’s only a matter of time. Not to mention that these guys are like nothing he has encountered. He’s probably faster, but he hasn’t faced a foe that can see and has awareness 360 degrees around its body. Nor one that can literally attack from any angle. As soon as he grabs one, it’s pretty much over. If for some reason they can’t affect him, then yea, he stomps. He’s massively stronger than them and it would just be a matter of time since they can’t defend against being dragged into space.

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#78 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom solos

Carnage solos

Toxin solos

Anti-Venom... solos

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#79 Edited by Nomar (1827 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll add this to the list. Just more comic book over everything else wanking. I blame the writers. They write everybody fighting everybody and have very high end characters fighting with low end characters. All while forgetting they could end the fight the second it starts. So we end up with topics like these where people actually believe the symbiotes stand any chance against DCEU Supes probably becaue XYZ didn't turn them into mist in a fight. You could post scene after scene of DCEU feats that the symbiotes couldn't come close to contending with (without amps) and it won't matter. You can't contend with nostalgia and bad writing.

If I could change on thing about Marvel/DC it's that people would stay in their lanes and let high/very high tier characters cut loose. Especially when they have no reason to hold back.

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#80 Posted by Warlockmage (9548 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent said:
@warlockmage said:

Venom solos

Carnage solos

Toxin solos

Anti-Venom... solos

adorable... thats about the max level of argument i expect from you, doesn't change anything and they all still solo.

good talk

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#81 Edited by Tony501 (714 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins and that’s it

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#82 Posted by arqe (983 posts) - - Show Bio
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#83 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

adorable... thats about the max level of argument i expect from you, doesn't change anything and they all still solo.

good talk

The only way they solo is if part of the symbiote gets on to superman and then takes him from there.

Venom and Carnage aren't out muscling someone with hypersonic combat speed who is also a 40,000 plus tonner with multi-building level striking power.

Idk anything about toxin but if you have strength feats from him that stack up to Superman's lmk.

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Also venom got his ass blasted by this punch, what do you think Superman, who punches WAY harder than this and is way faster than Spider-Man is gonna do?

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#84 Edited by TheSpartanB345T (5229 posts) - - Show Bio

Most people here have no comic knowledge at all apparently...

Carnage became immune to sonic attacks in his (latest?) run after using the Darkhold. That amped him overall. He's tanked much worse than heat vision as well.

Sonic also caught a blitzing Nova and has fought Sentry (though he got clapped pretty bad) and is far superior most symbiotes in general.

He puts a spike into Clark's eye, though he might just be able to cut him in half.

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#85 Posted by ShadowRazer24 (908 posts) - - Show Bio

Let me think... there is an image of a guy with an S on him that did something to one of these... what was it? Ah yes:

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anyways I bet there is someone who is going to tell us why that move is bollocks, to which I am going to say Superman could also just leave them up there to freeze to death, or take them back to Earth at reentry speeds and burn them off the host.

Or he can just use HV on them.

did this guy seriously compare DCEU Superman to 616 Sentry......?

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#86 Edited by Eredin12 (1376 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can stomp all of them with hands behind his back and using one leg

Strength :

Clark is MUCH strogner than all of them combined

Zod who is weaker than Clark can easily throw Superman 1 kilometer through 5 skyscrapers

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And we see how he goes through thick concrete and through the entire floors destroying them like paper without slowing down

Throwing somone like this, through this much concrete and floors, is more impresive than throwing them through 20 kilometers of air

And best strength feat from Change who is strongest here is throwing venom few kilomters

Then here Zod tears his armor apart like paper

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Same armor can no sell Superman punches and being smashed through few large silos much thicker and denser than buildings at hypersonic speed with enough force to destroy them, they are far more durable than normal skyscrapers

Clark has overpowered Zod and is stronger and he can easily break his neck

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Note: To breakneck of normal human you need 500 kg of force, Zod has no solled tens of tousends of tons of force in the head without any harm at all and is comperable to MOS Superman who has no solled impact that destroyed the top of montian , so it is clear that Kryptonains ar far more durable than normal humans, at least tens of tousends of times more durable becase 1,5 tons of force would easily punch through you yet Zod has no solled tens of tousends of tons without any harm, this should put Clark at least in 100 000 tons range

Wich is pretty consistent, even nearly dead superman and extremly weakened to the point that Batman with armor can beat him can easily throw 500 kg through 12 meters of thick concrete

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And one thick concrete wall can no sell car hitting it with full speed

Throwing 500 kg through 15 meters of concrete is much better than throwing person through few kilometers through air

And This is extremly weakened Superman, prime Superman is at tousends of times Stronger

He has also effortlessly overpowered Steppenwolf who has overpowered Aquaman underwater and Aquaman is at least 200 000 toner underwater

He also easily ovepowered Namek when he stopped holding back and it took both namek and faora just to hold him for litle time and that was holding back Clark and Namek can throw 166 tons train across multiple city blocks at great speed

This means that Clark is so much stronger than them that he can overpower them all with one finger or can just effortlesly tear then apart, none of them is more durable than Zods armor

He is also much stronger them in striking strength

Clark has also effortlesly create a wall-sized crater in Kryptonian ship with casuall punch while weakened

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And Kryptonian ships are extremely durable. They can no sell reentry impact on the earth and flying through city block worth of skyscrapers like paper with enough force to destroy all of them easily, so it no sold city block level destruction and Clark effortlesly made wall-sized crater with casuall punch

Or when he bltized namek and punched him at super-speed so hard that he send him ( and he wights 500 kg ) 350 meters away with enaguh force to easily flip 3 155 tons locomotives

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Venom was very hurt by tousends of times weaker punch from Spiderman so Clark one-shots

A punch sends Venom ripping through the street

Clark also scales from Zod who can send iron safe into orbit with a strike and Clark himslef has punched 500 kg Doomsday 25 kilomters away

Then we have a Clark one shooting WW with one hit when he got serisous

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Daiana was unharmed after tanking exsplosion that not only destroyed but vaporized most of bulding with ease

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Venom was knocked out by the much weaker explosion and she tanked it without harm yet Clark one shoted her

She can also tank hits from Steppenwolf who did this

Destroys the ground with a single strike

Hell Zod can overpower Superman flight which is very impressive( Clark was unmoved by GAU 8 bullets and powerful hellfire missles when he used flight and they hit with 100 tons of force and Zod did not just move him but sned him flying few miles through 3 skyscrapers destroying 2 of them and shaking third)

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Clark was unharmed by this of course but this proves how strong is Clark

Clark blitzes Doomsday at hypersonic speed with such force that he is sent flying through a city blocks worth of buildings, destroying all of them

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So Clark destoryed city block just by hitting somone into it

Clark destoryed world engine while very weakened

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Even tiny legs of world engine can no sell hitting ground at Mach 25 speed and world engine weights milions of tons , it is larger than skyscrapers, something like that hiting earth at that speed is montian+ level, hell even shockwaves from world engine destroyed soundings and mountains like an asteroid, now i am not saying Clark is montian level but this proves he can easily one-shot any of them

So Clark can easily one-shot any of them

He is also much faster

They are also statues to him

Even MOS Clark has speed blitzed Namek when he got serious, namek could not react to him at all, he has even managed to easily lift namek throw him and then punch him before he can move a finger or even react, and Namek himslef is bullet timer and supersonic in combat

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Steppenwolf who is faster than WW could not even tag Superman and Clark has easily speed blitzed him and was FTE to him

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Not to mention the fact that Clark is now massively hypersonic or near that level, he could make WW statue for an entire minute of his and flash Fight and she could not even react or see him casually turning around looking at flash and then throwing her and Aquaman

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And Agian he blitzes WW agian and we see that he can easily cross 10 meters and caught her hands before she can move her arms even 20 cm and she is mach 3 in combat, so Clark is here at least 60 times faster her and he did this casually

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They also cannot hurt him with anything, i doubt even pricing would work, he has no solled Gau 8 bullets which are much stronger than even 50 Cal bullets

He can also one-shot them with HF that can destroy 4 skyscrapers in secodns, vaporize normal humans and instatly melt tons of steel and instnatly cut through montain and one-shot ships that can no sell reentry

Clark crub stomps them

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#87 Edited by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

In b4 the marvel boys say venom can solo a multi-thousand tonner with hypersonic combat speed... again.

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#88 Posted by Chad_Duby (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

Carnage kills him and this is not even a question.

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#89 Posted by ShadowRazer24 (908 posts) - - Show Bio

Let me think... there is an image of a guy with an S on him that did something to one of these... what was it? Ah yes:

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anyways I bet there is someone who is going to tell us why that move is bollocks, to which I am going to say Superman could also just leave them up there to freeze to death, or take them back to Earth at reentry speeds and burn them off the host.

Or he can just use HV on them.

I still don't believe this guy really compared Sentry to DCEU Superman.

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#90 Edited by Eredin12 (1376 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowrazer24:

Clark can probably do that to Change as well, sure comparing Sentry and DCEU Clark is laughable but Clark can probably do that to him

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#91 Posted by Eredin12 (1376 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby:

Carnage is much weaker, much slower, cannot harm Superman and gets one shoted by HF or Punch

So how?

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#92 Posted by Breaking_Brads_Void (1127 posts) - - Show Bio

Fucking Superman wank never ceases to fail to amuse me.

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#93 Posted by KratoDaManto (993 posts) - - Show Bio

Fucking Superman wank never ceases to fail to amuse me.

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#94 Edited by Eredin12 (1376 posts) - - Show Bio

@kratodamanto: @breaking_brads_void:

You have some people saying that venom and evrey other Symbiote solos and superman is one wanked here?

He does stomp them, that is not wank, but the fact, he is just leagues above them in everything

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#95 Posted by icec0ld (1516 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingfrieza:

Log off

Spiderman is not faster than any film Superman. He flew from Antarctica to Africa in seconds, he's literally over 1000 faster than sound.

The symbiotes cannot in any way shape or fashion beat Superman he would literally burn them away or freeze them.

Lock this thread.

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#96 Posted by Chad_Duby (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

@eredin12: Pure assertion. Prove a single claim you made to me first. And no, the truth is not even close to your unconsidered reply because Carnage has been causing trouble for teams of powerful superheroes and has been engaged in battle with people like Ben Grimm who can kill pretty much everybody in DCEU.

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#97 Edited by Eredin12 (1376 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby:

I have seen Carnage quantifiable feats and they are nowhere near Clark level ( i am talking about consistent feats and not PIS feats, with PIS feats, Captian America is FTL planetary chracter and Spiderman can hurt Hulk and Thor)

His best strength feat is this

His striking feats are smashing street, walls, buildings, one shooting nightcrawler, punching people through the building, things that Clark can replicate with one finger

When it comes to speed he has bltized Deadpool and Spiderman but still nowhere near Superman level

He is comic chracter with a loot of appearances over many years sure you can find some PIS feats like him fighting some really powerful chracters but you can do same with Cap or Spiderman, that is just PIS, like him hurting Magneto through his shields that can block htis from IG, Thanos, Iron Man hits, Galactus attacks, Phoneix force, no sell Iron Man attacks, people way above Carnage

Carnage, after all, is Spiderman and Venom vilian and enemy, not some Hulk level powerhouse

Now dont get me wrong, i now he is very powerful and would stomp anyone else in DCEU but Kryptonians are out of his league

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#98 Posted by Chad_Duby (6047 posts) - - Show Bio

@eredin12: No you obviously haven‘t otherwise you wouldn’t have said that and would have had more considered claim. Really? Would you generalize things as PIS? The definition of consistency is roughly translated as ”average”, meaning if one character’s Showing varies between continental to planetary range, his consistent power level would be in the middle. Now, what is your Basis for Carnage‘s consistent or average power level?

No, that wasn’t the best one. Why would you base Carnage off one feat, as opposed to your claim of being stick to consistency above?

Assertion again.

Nowhere near “Clark’s level” to the point where he actually blizted Spider man who was capable of dogging and reacting to attacks from most powerhouses in Marvel universe.

First off, Cap died when Thanos got serious as he was given the chance to fight freely with him due to Thanos’s desperation to attract Death’s attention and Spider has load of instances where he fought powerful people and still faired well with them.

He is their villain because he was obsessed with getting them tormented and wasn’t actually in the intention of hunting them down to death humanely. Thanos aas well is Spiderman’s villain and pretty much everyone’s villain. Does that mean he has to be around the level of his opponents? Of course not, as, just like Carnage, he always humiliates heroes he fights with little to no effort. Again, Carnage is far far far stronger than either venom or spider, he is out of their league. And recently, he hit Venom so hard that Eddie actually made a claim that he was never hit that Hard though in the past he fought against Professor Hulk.

I am not claiming that Carnage is on the same level with or stronger than Professor Hulk but he certainly is comparable to them. Beside that, Venom alone was crazy strong. While Weakened, he was capable of holding an entire heaven wheel, making him at least a multi-toner.

Certainly aren’t, if even the likes of Ben Grimm can be infected by his tentacle with just a mere touch. Carnage is almost more powerful than anyone in DCEU.

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#99 Edited by Eredin12 (1376 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby:

No you obviously haven‘t otherwise you wouldn’t have said that and would have had more considered claim. Really? Would you generalize things as PIS? The definition of consistency is roughly translated as ”average”, meaning if one character’s Showing varies between continental to planetary range, his consistent power level would be in the middle. Now, what is your Basis for Carnage‘s consistent or average power level?

Like i siad, smashing street, walls, throwing Venom across city blocks, he is spiderman villain, if chracter consistently is on that level and then shows mountain level feats that is PIS

No, that wasn’t the best one. Why would you base Carnage off one feat, as opposed to your claim of being stick to consistency above?

That was his best strength feat and is consistent

Nowhere near “Clark’s level” to the point where he actually blizted Spider man who was capable of dogging and reacting to attacks from most powerhouses in Marvel universe.

Some powerhouse are slow in Marvel, Thor, Thing, ... They are all fodders to DCEU Superman in speed, that means nothing, Spiderman is slower than DCEU WW, Jarsho spiderman expert said that himslef and she is a statue to Clark

First off, Cap died when Thanos got serious as he was given the chance to fight freely with him due to Thanos’s desperation to attract Death’s attention and Spider has load of instances where he fought powerful people and still faired well with them.

Like i siad those instances with Cap and Spiderman are PIS, i am not talking about Cap fighting Thanos and Cap even making Thanos noticing him is PIS

We have chracter who can punch through concrete and steel, beat bulleptroof chracter at his max and chracter that can destroy planets with ease

Cap is PIS God

He is their villain because he was obsessed with getting them tormented and wasn’t actually in the intention of hunting them down to death humanely. Thanos aas well is Spiderman’s villain and pretty much everyone’s villain. Does that mean he has to be around the level of his opponents? Of course not, as, just like Carnage, he always humiliates heroes he fights with little to no effort. Again, Carnage is far far far stronger than either venom or spider, he is out of their league. And recently, he hit Venom so hard that Eddie actually made a claim that he was never hit that Hard though in the past he fought against Professor Hulk.

Thanos is not spiderman villain he is team buster

Carnage is their villain and he does fight them seriously, sure he is strogner then them but it is not like they are ants to him and Thor will not be Spiderman villain, i mean level between hero and villain is at least reasonable

Venom saying that means nothing, Profesor Hulk is one of the smartest versions, he would hold back, you need to prove that he hit him as hard as he could, if you cannot do that , Huk held back and hit him with very weak force like how Superman fights street levelers and does not kill them and how Spiderman does not kill criminals, he holds back

I am not claiming that Carnage is on the same level with or stronger than Professor Hulk but he certainly is comparable to them. Beside that, Venom alone was crazy strong. While Weakened, he was capable of holding an entire heaven wheel, making him at least a multi-toner.

He is nothing compared to Hulk, Profesor Hulk destoryed nuke proof door with ease

Sure Venom is 50 toner but Clark is tousends of tiems above that, so the difference is astronomical

Certainly aren’t, if even the likes of Ben Grimm can be infected by his tentacle with just a mere touch. Carnage is almost more powerful than anyone in DCEU.

Clark has a good healing factor eanguh to regenerate from a skeleton in seconds on day, so that could prevent any poison

And how does that infection work? Is that some poison or what?

And Clark is much faster he can dodge it and one shot

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#100 Posted by ScotticusRex (663 posts) - - Show Bio

Symbiotes can win, but Superman also easily produces that Symbiotes' two weaknesses. I'd go with Clark, because speed blitz/reaction time and heat vision/sonic boom.