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#1 Posted by King Saturn (222904 posts) - - Show Bio
Who wins in an all out battle between Surtur and Trigon ?

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#2 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Trigon looses. I'm not sure about before his current state though.

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#3 Posted by King Saturn (222904 posts) - - Show Bio
How about Trigon at his Peak Power
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#4 Posted by lordraiden (9663 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon is no match for Surtur! He gets cut down.

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#5 Posted by King Saturn (222904 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
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Trigon is no match for Surtur! He gets cut down.

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How can someone who has Large Scale Reality Warping powers get beat by Surtur so easy ?
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#6 Posted by Firestormnuclerman (2581 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"lordraiden said:
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Trigon is no match for Surtur! He gets cut down.

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How can someone who has Large Scale Reality Warping powers get beat by Surtur so easy ?"

My guess is because don't they usually write Trigon very crappy?
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#7 Posted by lordraiden (9663 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"lordraiden said:
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Trigon is no match for Surtur! He gets cut down.

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How can someone who has Large Scale Reality Warping powers get beat by Surtur so easy ?"

The guy's a Titans villain! What has he done with these Large Scale Reality Warping powers of his that'd make hime a threat to someone like Surtur, especially if he has his Twilight sword, then the match lasts seconds!
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#8 Posted by Truth_be_Told (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon at full power should win
If Surtur has the TL sword then He could beat a depowered Trigon

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#9 Posted by The_Scourge (5341 posts) - - Show Bio
Surtur
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#10 Posted by King Saturn (222904 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"King Saturn said:
"lordraiden said:
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Trigon is no match for Surtur! He gets cut down.

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How can someone who has Large Scale Reality Warping powers get beat by Surtur so easy ?"

The guy's a Titans villain! What has he done with these Large Scale Reality Warping powers of his that'd make hime a threat to someone like Surtur, especially if he has his Twilight sword, then the match lasts seconds!"
Trigon at full power can effect the Universe with his Reality Warping... Surtur has been considered a destroyer of Galaxies with his Sword... I definately think Trigon at full power could hang with Surtur
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#11 Posted by Firestormnuclerman (2581 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok but still is Trigon still written like he's not a formidable super villain.

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#12 Posted by vegeta (5244 posts) - - Show Bio

surtur

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#13 Posted by Saren (27933 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon.

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#14 Posted by Nightflash (841 posts) - - Show Bio

trigon is at most powerfull when he is in his realm. And when he is at his peak trigon is a BEAST.

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#15 Posted by TDK_1997 (18634 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon is a beast if he is in a realm and he will crush Surtur.

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#16 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon.

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#17 Posted by Deathspool (17 posts) - - Show Bio

i say trigon hes proved a good adversary for the teen titans while surtur gets his butt kicked by thor 

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#18 Posted by entropy_aegis (20773 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon.

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#19 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

According to the Monitor in an issue of Swamp Thing during the build up to COIE, Trigon is on the same level of power as the Spectre. That said, Trigon certainly lacks the feats to back it up save how easily he curbstomped planet Earth, Surtur does however have a chance because his sword is extremely powerful...but at best he is playing out his part in a play and destroys Asgard along with himself and Trigon has conquered dimensions, so I will give it to Trigon.

I will however look forwards to his reintroduction in the New 52, where things might change.

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#20 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (9285 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

According to the Monitor in an issue of Swamp Thing during the build up to COIE, Trigon is on the same level of power as the Spectre. That said, Trigon certainly lacks the feats to back it up save how easily he curbstomped planet Earth, Surtur does however have a chance because his sword is extremely powerful...but at best he is playing out his part in a play and destroys Asgard along with himself and Trigon has conquered dimensions, so I will give it to Trigon.

I will however look forwards to his reintroduction in the New 52, where things might change.

They may make him as powerful as current Darkseid. Dude knocked out everyone on the team (JL) uncouncious with a stomp. Not even trying he destroyed Hal, and had his eyes guaged and didn't seem injured afterwards. Trigon is a powerful adversary..but I agree he is written as weak so that the tTitans don't get smashed. Fighting against someone like Surtur will make him bring his A-game. Surtur may lose after a great fight.

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#21 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@Guardiandevil83 said:

They may make him as powerful as current Darkseid. Dude knocked out everyone on the team (JL) uncouncious with a stomp. Not even trying he destroyed Hal, and had his eyes guaged and didn't seem injured afterwards. Trigon is a powerful adversary..but I agree he is written as weak so that the tTitans don't get smashed. Fighting against someone like Surtur will make him bring his A-game. Surtur may lose after a great fight.

I might have to let on I considered the old Trigon far more powerful than Darkseid old and new, only reason he was ultimately beat in the old days was through ages of planning. As seen during Terror of Trigon, he only noticed the Titans attacking him when Beastboy threw himself into his eye as a stegosaurus, when he did attack them he just waved his staff and dropped Titans Tower on them otherwise didn't really bother. If he will be like that again remains to be seen, but he is an interesting literary challenge I suppose, how do you handle a villain so powerful he can wipe out the heroes with a blink?

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#22 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (9285 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

@Guardiandevil83 said:

They may make him as powerful as current Darkseid. Dude knocked out everyone on the team (JL) uncouncious with a stomp. Not even trying he destroyed Hal, and had his eyes guaged and didn't seem injured afterwards. Trigon is a powerful adversary..but I agree he is written as weak so that the tTitans don't get smashed. Fighting against someone like Surtur will make him bring his A-game. Surtur may lose after a great fight.

I might have to let on I considered the old Trigon far more powerful than Darkseid old and new, only reason he was ultimately beat in the old days was through ages of planning. As seen during Terror of Trigon, he only noticed the Titans attacking him when Beastboy threw himself into his eye as a stegosaurus, when he did attack them he just waved his staff and dropped Titans Tower on them otherwise didn't really bother. If he will be like that again remains to be seen, but he is an interesting literary challenge I suppose, how do you handle a villain so powerful he can wipe out the heroes with a blink?

I know he is. I just meant that if and when he does return, he'd just be a real BAMF and not job. Look at Helspont. He had a nice intro to the 52. By kicking the crap outta Clark for a bit. And the answer to your last question. You cant. Which has always pissed me off, but I guess if the heroes die, their will be no story.

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#23 Posted by OmegaDynasty (10500 posts) - - Show Bio

At his peak Trigon would win.  
As in current, I have no clue.  

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#24 Posted by Thanofleeze (4388 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon probably.

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#25 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (8899 posts) - - Show Bio
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#26 Edited by patrat18 (11734 posts) - - Show Bio

trigon

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#27 Posted by kidman560 (7638 posts) - - Show Bio

trigon godstomps now

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#28 Posted by LordWhis (380 posts) - - Show Bio

Surtur is a universe buster, can Trigon beat a universe buster ?

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#29 Posted by Kingant27 (16899 posts) - - Show Bio

Very close.

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#30 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon.

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#31 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordwhis said:

Surtur is a universe buster, can Trigon beat a universe buster ?

Trigon is a universe buster in his own right, both the old and the new version.

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#32 Posted by Spooozymcgasbag (56 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon stomps

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#33 Posted by Ross232 (6 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm all for Marvel but I strongly believe Trigon wins here. Surtur would be a viable opponent but not for long...unless he gets his sword which still changes nothing drastically, in my eyes. The sword would be a game changer if he was fighting someone not on Surtur's level.

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#34 Posted by MasterKungFu (20773 posts) - - Show Bio

trigon

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#35 Posted by mr-luxcipher (7593 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Posted by JHG (286 posts) - - Show Bio

I dunno about this one.

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#37 Posted by dami24434 (4315 posts) - - Show Bio

Surtur.trigon is overrated.

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#38 Edited by linsanel_Doctor (8630 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon

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#39 Edited by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon. Underrated as ever.

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#40 Posted by PhoenixTitan (839 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie Surtur now wins. Doesn't need feats.

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#41 Posted by Zuriel-el (2962 posts) - - Show Bio

is there no one else!

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#42 Posted by CasualLord (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie Surtur now wins. Doesn't need feats.

Very funny joke.

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#43 Posted by AbelHsu (3533 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP

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#44 Posted by TheVoidofDeath (2137 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon

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#45 Posted by Vj1234 (413 posts) - - Show Bio

surtur wins. He destroys galaxies and has better feats

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#46 Posted by Cosmic_Broski (249 posts) - - Show Bio

@vj1234 said:

surtur wins. He destroys galaxies and has better feats

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#47 Edited by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio

Trigon wins. He is multi-universal level.

Been displayed to be on Mxy and Spectre levels according to multiple sources.

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#48 Posted by HeirToTheKingdom (9201 posts) - - Show Bio
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Trigon wins. He is multi-universal level.

Been displayed to be on Mxy and Spectre levels according to multiple sources.

Wasn't that only in Injustice?

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#49 Posted by destruct0r24578 (266 posts) - - Show Bio

@vj1234 said:

surtur wins. He destroys galaxies and has better feats

Let's be fair, Surtur has only busted galaxies via igniting their cores, also what are his superior feats?

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#50 Edited by destruct0r24578 (266 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael:

Trigon wins. He is multi-universal level.

If by "Multi-Universal level" you mean conquer Universes under unknown amounts of time than sure.

Been displayed to be on Mxy and Spectre levels according to multiple sources.

You mean one fight that is arguable if it's canon and then one statement?