@erkan12:I wasn't arguing that Dooku was Mace level - I was using that as an example for what you're doing (wanking mace). Windu is clearly ahead of Dooku, but he isn't a nine anymore.
Lol, then why did you mention about Mace for no reason on this thread? It's obvious that your intention was different than what you said. Windu is nine, you need to show me a reason why Gillard change his mind, if he says 9 then he says bordering to 9 then it means that's his opinion and it's open to discussion because he didn't say why he lowered Mace's tier.
Lucas said Windu is on the same level with Yoda. That's a better reference than Gillard anyway.
Umm... no. Just because he can 'compete' with the Emperor, doesn't automatically grade him to their level. Mace is an 8/9 - you may not like it, but that's the reality.
How can a tier 8 (according to you) can compete with tier 9? Yoda specifically said Kenobi couldn't compete with the Emperor because Kenobi was tier 8. According to you again, Mace is tier 8, so he shouldn't compete with the Emperor, right?